
Where was his party when it came time to take a stand for freedom in this country? Hiding like a coward, that's where. Only nine Democrats and one independent - former Republican Jim Jeffords - had guts enough to vote against reauthorizing the fascist piece of crap called the Patriot Act.
The rest, including Harry Reid, that scum-sucking capitulator who claims to be the Senate Democratic leader, dropped their pants, bent over, grabbed their ankles and handed George W. Bush the k-y jelly and said "bung-hole me all you want sir. I like getting screwed by dictators."
What about the leading contender for the 2008 Democratic Presidential nomination, the so-called "gentle lady from New York," Hillary Rodham Clinton? Oh, she let Bush and the rest of the Republican party gang bang her like frat boys in a horny drunken brawl. Too late to cry rape Hillary. You proved yourself a political slut like most of the rest of your party.
This is the opposition party? This is the party that partisans claim will save this country from the abuses and excesses of too many years of Republican domination? Christ, these losers couldn't lead a Cub Scout pack on an overnight camping trip in a suburban back yard.
I expected Republicans to fall in lockstep behind their power-mad President and sell out their country. That's what Republicans do in the name of control, even though a few made a token show of resistance last year by joining Democratic efforts to filibuster passage of the act. But I held out faint hope that the Dems wouldn't cave and join in the feeding frenzy on the Constitution. Serves me right, I guess, for trusting any politician -- Democrat or Republican.
Only these 10 voted against the act: Daniel Akaka (D-HI), Tom Harkin (D-IA), Carl Levin (D-MI), Jeff Bingaman (D-NM), Ron Wyden (D-OR), James Jeffords (I-VT), Patrick Leahy (D-VT), Patty Murray (D-WA), Russ Feingold (D-WI), Robert Byrd (D-WV). The rest voted with Bush and against freedom.
Oh those who voted for the act will give us some propagandistic pap about adding protections for civil rights but those canges are just cosmetic crap. The act itself is a Constitution-evading invasion of basic American rights to privacy, and an abandonment of long-standing protections against illegal search and seizure.
If you think Bush was an out-of-control despot before, just see what he will do with the expanded wiretapping, surveillance and seizure powers granted him and his Gestapo-like Department of Homeland Security in the reauthorized act. Don't expect the House of Representatives to do anything to stop this act. The real battleground was the Senate and that battle was lost when Democrats joined with Republicans to sell out the Constitution of the United States.
Where I come from, that's called treason and everyone who voted for the USA Patriot Act should be considered a traitor to their country and treated as such.
And the next Democrat who gets in my face to tell me how much better things would be with his party in charge had better have a good dental insurance plan.
Traitorous bitches... here...
C'mon, Doug, stop shilly-shallying around and tell us how you really feel!
Wonder how much money it'd take to start a centrist party and leave the lefty loonies and the righty tighties out in the cold.
Enough of the so-called Liberal Democraps. Russ Feingold is the only one left worth suporting. Screw Hillary and John K and Ted and Barack and Diane and Barbara... assholes all of them. Ben Franklin is spinning in his grave today. And every single Senator who voted for this travesty can just go to hell. They can go to hell and die. Right now...
Doug,
You're sounding more and more like a Libertarian every day.
Ted Remington writes:
C'mon, Doug, stop shilly-shallying around and tell us how you really feel!
You know me. I'm just a weenie who can't make up his mind. :)
Doug
My thoughts, exactly.
Isn't treason punishable by hanging?
Keith writes:
You're sounding more and more like a Libertarian every day.
Doug
Ah, Democrats and Republicans. Like two eggs, one over easy and the other well done. One is runny and the other is hard but after being digested they both produce the same result. Until concerned Americans can unite with a viable third party of, by, and for, the people, I fear we are doomed to slide down this slippery slope of elitist sponsored fascism. It is past time to take matters into our own capable hands and imprison the criminal bastards who taint the halls of OUR government.
Dont forget the deputy from down under John howard. we ozzies remember the days of the long weekend.Had to laugh when I clicked with the chimp comparison.
i like the analogy doug an eliminator, as for the second comment, there is a site that impresses me, its called benfrank.net on his site he is looking for 435 men or women 4 the constitution air force colonel robert bowman who has been telling it like it is has linked up with benfrank.net, i have no personal affiliatio with this site and i am not saying this is the right way to go, but i have read alot of his articles and he like doug here , i can agree with 95% of the time, and in politics , id settle for 50% of common beliefs now. lets get some organization at the grassroots campaign soon,and get local petititons with like minded neighbours that pledge not to vote for any incumbents , the 10 good ones can run again later but not now, the main thing is get these fascist men and women out of dc and into leavensworth for the rest of their unnatural vampiristic lives.
When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. --That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, --That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.
Such has been the patient sufferance of these Colonies; and such is now the necessity which constrains them to alter their former Systems of Government. The history of the present Dictator of America [George W] is a history of repeated injuries and usurpations, all having in direct object the establishment of an absolute Tyranny over these States. To prove this, let Facts be submitted to a candid world...
Read the original Declaration and substitue with current events.
Let's remember that we are Americans first. Beware party loyalty, a dangerous thing that George Washington himself warned us of in his final address, you should hear all the facts in every instance before deciding how you will vote.
I am convinced that we here in America are Clinically INSANE. We vote the same ways over and over again for either of the two party candidates hoping for a different result each time and we are disappointed when things stay the same or get worse. WAKE UP!
Dems or Republicans, opposite sides of the same counterfeit coin.
I have concerns that we ain't seen nothing yet...
"The administration has not only the right, but the duty, in my opinion, to pursue Fifth Column movements," Graham, R-S.C., told Gonzales during Senate Judiciary Committee hearings on Feb. 6.
"I stand by this president's ability, inherent to being commander in chief, to find out about Fifth Column movements, and I don't think you need a warrant to do that," Graham added, volunteering to work with the administration to draft guidelines for how best to neutralize this alleged threat.
"Senator," a smiling Gonzales responded, "the president already said we'd be happy to listen to your ideas."
They will spy on you if you pay your credit off too.
http://www.shns.com/shns/g_index2.cfm?action=detail&pk=RAISEALARM-02-28-06
Read this
A fifth column is a group of people who clandestinely undermines from within a larger group to which it is expected to be loyal, such as a nation. The term originated with a 1936 radio address by Emilio Mola, a Nationalist general during the 1936-39 Spanish Civil War. As four of his army columns moved on Madrid, the general referred to his militant supporters within the capital as his "fifth column," intent on undermining the Republican government from within.
The term is also used in reference to a population who are assumed to have loyalties to countries other than in which they reside or supported their nation in war efforts against country they lived in. During World War II, German minority organisations in Poland and Czechoslovakia formed Selbstschutz which actively helped Third Reich in aggression against those countries and engaged in widescale atrocities.
The Japanese American internment in the United States was justified on the basis that those of Japanese ancestry living on the west coast would act as a fifth column. Irish Catholics resident in the UK have been sometimes viewed in this way due to "The Troubles" of the late 20th century (see also Guildford Four, Birmingham Six).
Today some people in a number of Western countries see radical Islamists - or even Muslims in general - as being a fifth column of a global Islamist movement, with its notion of a transnational Ummah. This can be seen in much the same way as racist governments in Western Europe denying the loyalty of Jewish communities in the pre-holocaust era. A good example of this is the Dreyfus Affair.
"Today some people in a number of Western countries see radical Islamists - or even Muslims in general - as being a fifth column of a global Islamist movement, with its notion of a transnational Ummah. This can be seen in much the same way as racist governments in Western Europe denying the loyalty of Jewish communities in the pre-holocaust era. A good example of this is the Dreyfus Affair."
The above comment appears to be an opinion of the author rather than fact. If not, please provide references.
Sources
"The German Fifth Column in Poland" London: Polish Ministry of Info, 1941
"Fifth Column at Work" by Bilek Bohumil, description of Geramn minority in Czechoslovakia, London, Trinity, 1945.
"The German Fifth Column in the Second World War" Jong, Louis de New York Fertig, 1973
"The Fifth Column, and Four Stories of the Spanish Civil War" New York Scribner, 1969
The above comment appears to be an opinion of the author rather than fact. If not, please provide references....
No, it is not my opinion at all. I provided the information for those who may not be aware of what Fifth column means. The information comes from http://www.answers.com/topic/fifth-column
I'm with you on this one, Doug. You get the tar and I'll get the feathers. Those other boys will get the rail. The Dems in Congress have let us down once again. They are no better than the GOP riff raff that run the place. Corporate whores and enemies of democracy. Thanks for expressing in your column how we all feel.
Democrats??????????
Bunch of Libermans,
they all will pay dearly
I fully agree that ALL who voted for this thinly disguised assault on civil liberties should be hung upside down behind a gas station, just like the fate of another facist, Benito Mussolini.
Rock On! I don't understand why, with all of the anger that so many of us have (which you express so eloquently, Doug), SOMETHING isn't being done about these people. I hear lots and lots of words about how wrong everything is but I don't see a lot of action. What has happened to our country? Where are the great social organizers of years gone by?
Amen Doug!!!!!!! Amen.
Russ Feingold for President! The only democrat who still has a spine.
Is anybody here actually surprised that the senate reauthorized this. Hell, I'm surprised there were even 10 votes against. Even so, just window dressing. A token show of the 'old' patriotism to give the false hope of some kind of reform from within the system. To keep as many people as possible from waking up to the fact that it's the system itself that's the problem.
Yeah, they blinked. When King George announced his invasion of Iraq, I ranted to anyone who would listen...this was a very bad idea..worse than Vietnam. I ranted for weeks and then these Democratic Congress cowards rolled over like two bit whores in a third world country. I am ashamed of my fellow country men and how little courage they show under fire. I still think most of the Democrates would show a good heart if not being hammered incessantly by a macho cowboy.
But it is hard to keep you head when violence is going on around you. Having spent 20 years in the military, one of the more interesting things I learned was that all of the peace time brass had to be removed and replaced when the shooting started in WWII. Seems peace makes all of us grow a soft head and under belly. Even the Democrates. But Doug I think you pushing that thing down my throat might not work out to well for you.
Everyone....should read an article at PRISONPLANET.COM entitled, "Gulags For American Citizens In Final Planning Stages"...very scary stuff.
Read recently an old book on the Brave New World Order...the issue with this President is giving him continually more powers. Reagan tried it with his National Security Secret Directives. The one that was leaked to the Cristic Institute spoke of setting up 10 detention camps in the US for housing up to 400,000 political prisoners in the event of the need to suspend the constitution in a time of war. We now have list of 380,000 according to the White HOuse and now approval for KBR to build "immigration" detention centers and for "other Projects" Please will someone call for pulling the war powers from this dangerous man right now before it really gets out of control.
Thanks to Senator Jeff B.from New Mexico for truely listening.
The reason nobody is standing up and doing anything is that we're all terrified, and not by the 'terrorists'. Recent history has made it abundantly clear that any popular leader, with the potential to start making a real difference, isn't gonna be long for this world. Of course, nowadays you're more likely to be Accidented than shot down by a 'crazed lone gunman', but the end result is the same. And granted, the average, rank-and-file resister is more likely to just be Gitmo'd, but it's hard to get people enthusiastic about adjusting to a lifestyle heavily dependent on shackles, hoods and saftey-orange jumpsuits.
Doug it just goes to show how legal prostitution is. Bush is the ultimate pimp and the supreme court and congress just love getting it shoved up their asses.....while we sit back hoping that they practice safe sex for democratic and capitalistic record that will be sealed away as top secret and highly sensative...funny thing, they sure published Clinton's sex life for everyone to see.
Now we have no one to blame but ourselves. We voted these morons into office, it's time we voted them out, all of them. They are as bad as Bush, if not worse.
They come like strangers in the night, and tell us they love us the day after. I for one am starting to believe the websites like Prisonplanet.com. This guy may just be the only one left with testicles that can wake up our fat, lazy, sleeping American asses before we are all marked, and on our way to the concentration camps.
George W. Bush just may be the Anti-Christ. I used to laugh at people that made that statement, I'm not laughing anymore.
We have no representative government; we have no government comprised of checks and balance institution, we have a government led by inept, self-serving, dishonest and unethical ego-maniacle power mongering jerks and twits. The nation is getting the leadership it sought and has supported. The 49.9 percent who did not support Bush in his bid for President, who allowed the Democratic Party leadership to capitulate and pull Kerry away from a probable win; the same damned leadership who cowered when Howard Dean yelled into a microphone - that 49.9 per cent who abdicated from politically responsible actions gave us what we deserve - incompetent, deceptive and illegal behavior by our national leaders and our Congress.
For the folks who write about wanting a third party effort, I have one comment: That is not going to happen so long as those of us wanting to change the politics of our government sit and write eloquently on our key boards, write letters to editors from our computers, and instant message and blog. It can only happen when people join with other people and get off our butts and onto our feet and begin pushing socially and politically for change ... and that means serious planning, organizing and implementing.
The first thing I recall learning about social change is that it takes people together describing and understanding the problems they have in common and deciding as a group to do something concerted about those problems. Institutional change cannot happen without a social problem being identified, synthesized to a common enough understanding and movement by the growing group demanding institutional change. Sitting here at my computer is only a small, first step in this process.
How many reading this have spoken to your respective state legislators and asked why she or he is not willing to call for the impeachment of the President. That call can come from a state's legislature and, if sent on, must by law be dealt with by the U.S. House and Senate.
SamC
Us progressives here in Richmond VA largely agree with Doug. The Dems are craven cowards.
That's not to say that the Dems in power wouldn't do better than the Republicans in power. It's to say that Dems ARE cowards.
However, better that they be cowards than that they be active dicatators. Not MUCH better of course. Not good enough. But not as bad as the GOP.
Move-on has started raising money to fund true progressives running in primaries against Republican-lite Democrats. I'm supporting them. It's the only strategy that I think can work.
The public will probably never come to recognize that the hegemonic party will keep the minority party around for window dressing, and the minority party will pretend to opposition in order to keep their perks and uphold their self-delusion of influence. We have to defeat these guys one at a time, from within, and keep speaking truth to power, without any way to access the TV and print media....primary contests are one way to get media access for our ideas and values. It's the only thing I can see that we have left to do.
I don't think any third party started from outside the two major parties can make it. (Though one started INSIDE, which later breaks off, has a better chance.)
I agree that the Dem leadership is reprehensible....but there's no way that they are as bad as the GOP when it comes to defying the will of the people and working against their interests, whether economic or civil rights.
You say it like it is, Doug! In fact, I'm grateful. My friends say I can rant, but you make me look like Emily Post!! (I want you to take that as a compliment.) With our senators and representatives, it's all about impressions. I live in Maine where Susan Collins is selling herself as a true moderate concerned about ethics and port security, when, in fact, she voted lock-stock-and-barrel with George Bush. She even insisted that FEMA be under Homeland Security, and, according to "Brownie", that's why FEMA is an utter disgrace! I even have a photo of her giving Bush an adoring glance after a particular corporate-welfare vote. Hey, if we really want to make a difference, we should all write about this woman's voting record and send it to the Portland Press Herald. I've had numerous letters to editor published in the paper, but they will NOT publish anything negative about this woman. This is the paper that found three DUIs on Bush days before his first election. They decided not to print anything about them because it would have looked "too political."
Man, if we've ever needed reform, it's now!!
Rhonda
I'm telling ya, anyone who doesn't believe that bush has got the nsa getting the goods on people and then compelling them to cooperate or else, isn't thinking straight. Why else would he go around the court and not release the list of whom they have spied on?
Look forward to meeting you all at the gulag.
My 14 yr old son rolls his eyes when I go on a rant - he just does not comprehend the importance of the political events taking place today that will affect and change his entire life in so many ways. I think a lot of "grown-ups" are exactly the same as 14 yr olds. They refuse to absorb the truth. These so called democrats are obscene perversions of humanity. We are on the verge of something even more horrible in this country than what has been going on the last six years. I am very sad. I am very angry.
When I watched the inability of the Democrats to stand up against the Alito confirmation--voting against the filibuster, I wrote to the DNC that day and told them it was the last contribution they would receive from me. I will only support individual candidates from this time forward. The Democrats in the Senate have done nothing but enable the Republicans and are therefore just as guilty for giving away democracy. I'm sick of it. I couldn't agree more with your rant. Harry Reid and the rest of them can go to hell.
Does anybody honestly believe there's a peaceful resolution to the mess the country is in now? Please..."vote" the bastards out?? You're not the one counting the votes bub, they are. As long as the mainstream media and voting systems are controled by those in power, they will remain in power. Peaceful solutions...yeah, that time is long gone folks.
Right on, Doug! I wonder if we can get a group together and go up to The white house with signs,chatting,or walking into the white house and saying "ok,Get out eveyone..we are firing you." lol
They are supposed to work for us..If I did what our Government is doing,I'd be fired..Why can't we do that?
"Peaceful solutions...yeah, that time is long gone folks."
You said it brother - watch your back (and use http://www.ultimate-anonymity.com/ when you use the internet - U-Surf will hide your IP address )
You know,their are little things you, I,everyone can do to fight against this..our civil liberties being taken away..Like don't make it easier for "powers that be" inform yourselves..don't give out your info to willingly..I wont go into it anymore..Just think for yourselves..don't go along with it because "he" "She","they" say it's ok...You know.
This certainly proves the need for a strong third party to represent the 80 per cent in the middle & forget about the 10 per cent on the right & left loony fringe. Last election we had two guys from the same Yale secret society run & pretend there was a difference. That should be all the proof we need!
Doug, I may not agree with all of your opinions, but I definitely agree with your general worldview, and I share your passionate desire to mold this nation into a place that would make the framers proud. Your column is a ray of light in the dark world of the generally capitulatory media.
Rock on, brother.
I like eliminarian. Now I know what to call my self, no longer an independant, but now an eliminarian.... Thanks Doug!
As has been stated in many more eloquent ways than I could...it IS time for a clean sweep...and a little revolution now and again IS a good thing.
When the thugs that work for the various alphabet soup agencies of the federal government do come around; don't go down easily.
Interpret that as you feel you must, but don't just give in. Don't let it be "We the Sheeple", being carted quietly off into the night. Make a stand for the greatness that is this country.
They work for us, not the other way around. Show them this by NOT voting for an incumbant, no matter what party they are from...encourage (and vote for) the independant candidate.
M.
I think I'm in love with you Doug (don't tell my husband).
When I heard that only 10 of those stupid bastards voted against this, I literally broke out into tears knowing full well that once again, my abusive and disfunctional relationship with the Democrats continues. I was naive to believe that "this time" they wont hit me, this time they'll change, this time they will do right, but alas, I'm left with a bloody nose and broken ribs - again.
Solution-everybody quick - get thee to your election commission and change your party affiliation to "unaffiliated" - did you know it's the second largest affiliation? It could be the first - then we can ORGANIZE and say, "We'll play your game, but we're not picking sides."
Peace p-l-e-a-s-e....
Libby
The only reason I can see for voting at all, is to throw out incumbents, which, from my point of view, includes about 90% of the Congress. Unfortunately, too many people think it is someone else's Congressman that should go. The passing of the Patriot Act provides a list of rubberstampers and cowards. Is your Congressman one of them?
Damn them!
Tar and Feather The War Party!
Republicans AND Democrats!
And don't forget the Corporate News?Whore$!
We need a true "Progressive" movement in this country. Not republican or democrat, just progressive. Most Americans are not so different if you step back from our political labels, and if the idiots in D.C. would stop fanning the flames of partisanship.
Doug, thanks for saying it like it is. I really appreciate your candor. We need more of this in our country, and need to get the word out to more of our fellow citizens.
This is the same Democratic party that allowed Bush and his thugs to run rampant for the past five years. They have been complicit in handing this man unprecedented powers to steamroll the Constitution and take away our "inalienable" rights.
Holy excrement! If we could only concentrate all this anger towards a viable solution.
It's getting to look more and more like we should have seriously considered Ralph Nader for President.
Maybe, just maybe, when the next incorruptible person runs for office, we won't spend so much time ridiculing him out of existence.
Hold on, hold on. Hillary Clinton is the "frontrunner" for the nomination in 2008? Are you kidding me? I thought we were trying to win VOTES in the red states! Why don't we just crown Jeb Bush right now and be done with it? Let's be honest...no red-stater is EVER going to vote for a woman. ESPECIALLY a woman like Sen. Clinton, period.
Good commentary, Doug.
The only thing I would add is that the Dems, as weak and pitiful as they are, are our only hope in the short term for getting Bush impeached and removed from office.
Progressive, Liberal, Conservative, Neo-Con, Libertarian - all labels. Can't we just be American Citizens anymore? Why all the pidgeon-holeing?
Time to get pissed and find some balls and get out there and take this country back.
Besides: if we don't fix the voting problems nothing will matter....
Doug,
You sound like I did when the highest priority in this country was to impeach Clinton for lieing about a blow-job...The FBI chasing an intern, Congress spinning and strutting to the masses, courts used for political machine hack jobs...
Bin Laden was laughing ass off...looks as if he won again...
There is not much time left. Opposition? Blackmail and "accidents" wait for the very few who would actually oppose the treason.
Do you really think we can "fix" the voting problems peacefully?? Please, lets take a vote, how many people believe these bastards will simply leave if we tell them to through "voting"?
I sure wish someone would put something in the Democrats water to grow them some BALLS! I mean, Feingold has been out on a limb from the beginning on this issue. He's the ONLY one who actually read the entire Patriot Act before initially voting on it! Geez, if we can't even count on our politicians to read/understand what they are voting on--what good are they???
What exactly do the Democrats have to gain by bending over on this issue? As a First Lady I thought Hillary had herself a nice big pair of cahones, but they seem to have shriveled to the size of a dried pea. Per shame....
Holy cr*p, Doug, I could not have said it better if I'd tried, and most likely not as well. I stopped voting a LONG time ago, and even if I could vote, esp. Democrap or Repugnican, I refuse to. I'm glad I can't work anywhere, and even if I could I refuse. I won't pay taxes of any kind into this miserable mess or support those greedy, pocket lining thugs in the House, the Senate, or the Whore House. I refuse to take those illegal piss tests, submit to fingerprint checks, or any of the other illegal crap required now in order yo even GET a job, let alone keep it, since there is no "job security" anyway, and why on earth would I want to work for below minimum wage anyway? My kids draw SS benefits off their dad's Disability check, and I manage those.
This government cut me off Medicaid benefits just when I was getting the diagnosis for my health problems that would have either helped me get the correct treatments to improve my health so I could have returned to work if I had wanted to, or qualified me for Social Security benefits. Damn the rotten lot of them!!!
Time to leave both these parties in the dust. If we all switch our voter registration to ANY party but Republican or Democrat, and put our money into candidates who aren't corporate shills, they might feel like listening to us.
The other thing we have to demand is a return to 100% paper ballots, bi-partisan vote counting with no special privilages for the majority party.
Until they can't steal/buy our elections, we have to fight them on grounds they'll understand.
I like the part about Hillary, except from what some people have written about her in a few books, she would prefer a dorm to slut it out with other women, like Cheney's wife and butch daughter. If special agent, Michael Levine , who went to congress to prove the CIA was neck deep with 4 other countries regarding the Iran-Contra affair and drugs being distributed on American streets, thanks to the American military and when Levine came out of congress telling the world at large that, "congress wasn't interested," is proof that they haven't changed. Now drugs are flowing from Afghanistan in record numbers since the gang bangers showed up.Criminals from the top down and they should be put out onto the streets and stoned to death, like the good 'ol days.
You've been in Washington how long and you're only now discovering that the Democrats and Republicans are interchangeable parts?
I think it's pretty obvious that the Repuiblican and Democratic parties are colluding and therefore consitute an illegal monopoly on political power in the US. We need to prosecute the two parties under the Racketeering, Influence and Corrupt Organizations Act (RICO) and declare them to be criminal organizations. We can then confiscate all property of anyone who profitted from either or both parties and use the money to pay off the debt that they incurred on this nation through their corruption and influence peddling.
Imagine a country where everyone who considered themselves a Republican or Democrat was in chains working to clean up the mess they created. We'd be out of debt in a matter of years and would have enough left over to help the world out with things like clean drinking water for everyone to make up for all the harm caused by Republicans and Democrats.
Dear Boug, Rather than "treasonious traiders" I would prefer "craven cowards". "Whores" doesn't work because that's insulting to sex workers who offer a straigh up deal.
Keep up the good work.
Yep both parties are making kiss kiss secret agenda's for greed. Senator Kohl of Wisconsin telling me in letters that he agrees with Bush Administration and he disagrees with someone that voted democrat for Senator Kohl. Yes and of course both Wisconsin Senators; Kohl and Feingold voting for oil company mergers that have cost consumer big time. All parties now dable in black politics for greed, wealth, control and power.
I think it's looking like Feingold for President in 2008. Who else is there?
John Edwards, who I once thought highly of, lost my confidence and all subsequent votes when he agreed with the invasion of Iraq. So did Kerry. So did many others.
Feingold is even interested in uncovering the truth about September 11th. That's what we need.
But no more of this republican-lite/democrat shit. The democrats of today, with few (ten?) exceptions, are the warmongering conservatives I grew up hating for their lack of patriotism.
There is, not any more, not one single way you can be passionate about this Patriot Act sellout by the Democrats and remain civil. The Republicans can just go to hell, but I want to beat the Democrats up a bit before I throw them down the satanic hole to die eternity with their politically-positioned partners. They are motherfuckers. (And to paraphrase Arlo Guthry, fatherfuckers, too.) You can't be just pissed. Pissed is when someone cuts you off in traffic and nearly involves you in an accident. What this is is having someone cut you off in traffic almost causing you to have an accident and at the next stoplight they get out of their car and accost you for interfering with their business, they call the police to lie about what took place and then they sue you in court for damages...and win. You're left standing there with your dick in your hand while they are elsewhere, with the blessing of something(s) and someone(s) you cannot believe in, about to do damage to you again. Pissed? Oh...this is WAY PASSED pissed.
They have taken something that is our birthright and fucked with it, to have done damage to us and all who follow us in the name of politics; to save, to retain, their positions of power by lying to us and to their cowardly districts and states that this action is for our, their, own good and security.
At this moment, everyone of us is better than any of them...with the exception of those very, very few that stood their ground for us.
Loved your Rant this morning, especially your comments on Hillary, whom the DLC is shoving down our throats even before the midterm elections. Some of my favorite websites have been blindsided in their support of Hillary. I don't think anyone who voted for this war is an acceptable candidate. I'd rather see the Democratic Party die and, I hope, eventually rise in purer form from its own ashes than remain the spineless organization that it now is!
Well Doug. A lot of people agree with you. But if the penalty for treason is execution, how would this be carried out? A bunch of constitutionalist citizens with their hunting rifles and shotguns? Am I hearing chuckles an smirks? Are visions of a thousand Ruby Ridges and Wacos wafting through our minds? At some point won't the military or some contingent thereof have to defect and accomplish this for the people? Who would carry out such an order and who would order it? Is this even possible these days? I'm just asking.
The problem with Western democracy is-there is none!
Recall when a 3rd party was rejected,by the two parties, to speak on the presendential candidates speaches on TV? I'm blaming the two parties but it was the networks decision.
Last week, I got to see the pictures of Home and Burial momument of Randolf Hearst-- Unbeleivable--died like a king---and only by owning a newspaper chain. He got all his money from the government--lying about who started a war. Cuba, and Hawaii bring to mind--massive killings, even the Hawaiian King and queen killings didn't bother whoish Hearst. Seems there is a similiar pattern at play today. Iraq!
So!, our problem in not getting decent politicians---- USA media gets paid to lie to us. I suggest we smash and burn all the presses and down the TV towers--that will work. Then go after the creeps put in power by AIPAC.
To the poster who recommends in calling our elected politicks----why don't you try first and post correspondance? Unless you get money honey--they don't give a shit about you.
Did you know that most Congressmen after 1 1/2 terms-become instant $millionairs.
Start with the media folks-- Banish Rupert Murdoc,to Russia.
Doug,
Thank you for having wisdom & balls. The Democrats & Republicans are the left and right fang of the same poisonous snake.
Cheers,
PDM
Doug, you're sounding more and more like a Libertarian every day.Huh? I'm a liberal and I stand behind every word Doug put forth (except the references to personal physical violence).
Any Democrat that was a true liberal would've voted against the Fascist Act.
This country is so screwed it's utterly pathetic. What the hell are we going to do now?
(R, TX) Ron Paul voted for the Patriot Act?
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Read this short paragraph about Israeli firm Check Point acquisition of the American computer security firm Sourcefire:
http://xymphora.blogspot.com/2006/03/snort.html
Then read this comment:
http://www.haloscan.com/comments/andy8/114136945119531816/?a=24306#98413
Why have you changed the print format on this website? It used to work. Now it doesn't. It prints too many pages, double spaced and runs over lines between pages. You had something that worked (like Americans had before 2000) and you've run it into the ground (like the Bushits).
"Kids can you say 1936 1938 nazi germany?"
What a great piece.
Thank you Mr. Thompson for caring, and speaking about our Constitution. What we need is about another hundred-million people to have as much of an understanding, and commitment for the ideals our nation was founded on and the world would be much better off.
That and a congress that does what it was intended to do from it's inception -- REPRESENT THE PEOPLE!
Here's a grand old idea... lets just follow the rules. You know, the rules the government is suppose to operate within?
Yeah... it's called the Constitution!
Moreover, if the government does not follow the rules why should we the people follow them? Just take a good look around us.
Why should you conduct your finances in a proper manner? Washington is full of idiots who have bankrupted a whole nation! The greatest nation on Earth, no less! And we sent them there to do it! And we keep sending them back!
I've heard it said insanity is doing the same thing over, and over again and expecting different results. Well, for the last one-hundred plus years we have been electing democrats, and republicans, and expecting different results. Expecting things to get better. Are we a nation that has gone insane???
And in every county across America there are municipalities run buy people who have bankrupted most every city, town, village, hamlet... whatever... in this country!
And why is this? Because our monetary system is meant to do only one thing, BUILD DEBT!
There's only one cure for the very, very bad times ahead for this nation. And that is to go back to the Constitution, reinstate it as the law of the land, and follow the rules!
Thank God for the few Patriots we have in the media like Doug Thompson who have an understanding of this grand old idea.
"A patriot is mocked, scorned and hated; yet when his cause succeeds, all men will join him, for then it costs nothing to be a patriot." -- Mark Twain
Doug,
As if we need anymore evidence that we are a conquered nation (by the NWO)and an enslaved people. Nothing short of a bloody revolution in the streets will change the nwo agenda which is to destroy the United States and depopulate the land. This evil cancer has infiltrated every branch of government and every agency within the government. bush is not an American - he and his crime family dance to the tune of the nwo. No thinking person in their right mind could believe that bush is this stupid, this incompetent or this insane in running the government. He is that stupid and that incompetent and that insane, which is why he is a perfect patsy for the nwo agenda.
I'm sorry to be so pessemistic but time is very short - the concentration camps are ready, Iran will be bombed, Israel will be wiped off the face of the earth and millions will suffer and die.
We are staring into the very face of an evil so diabolical that it is difficult to put into words.
Think about it - would the United States president deliberately start an illegal war based on lies, refuse to uncover the truth behind the 9-11 attack, turn his back on the hurricane he knew was coming, ignore the devestation of Katrina, sell the ports to an admitted terrorist stronghold, baloon the federal deficit and the trade deficit into the trillions, appoint incompetent people to postions of power, hand contracts to his corporate cronies and much more - if he had the best interests of the American people in mind???
These traitors should be hanging at the end of a rope.
From the book "Give Me Liberty" by Gerry Spence;
"I say that the most dissolute whores in America do not wear skin-tight hot pants and low-cut blouses. They wear business suits with dignified pinstripes, starched white collars, and two-hundred-dollar silk ties. They will sell themselves to whomever and whatever will buy them-usually on the cheap. They have become the most powerful, the most skilled whores in the history of the world, piously, willfully screwing us under the bedcovers of government in the largest brother in America, the Congress of the United States."
Also on the same page, Mr. Spence quotes an English author by the name of G.K. Chesterton;
"You can never have a revolution in order to establish a democracy. You must have a democracy in order to have a revolution."
it has been established for some time now that we no longer have anyone to vote for who _genuinely_ represents "the people". we all know that these guys are selfserving, corporate whores - so could someone please tell me what the alternative is?
I see many websites, such as this one, prisonplanet.com, etc etc, voicing *MY* opinion. I truly relate to what these sites are saying about our corrupt western governments and the fact that our leaders are spilling blood and selling us all down the river for the sake of their own wealth & power. Yet nowhere on these sites do I see any suggestion of how we can actually CHANGE our situation. We no longer have anyone representing the interests of the average man. Democrat & Republicans are one and the same as far as the most important social issues are concerned.
Surely there are organizations, political parties and other agents of change that could use our frustrations and energy and channel them towards some form of positive and actual CHANGE?? I'd certainly back and support any party with a manifesto based on TRUTH, a rejection of corporate political manipulation and an ideal that they are here to SERVE OUR INTERESTS. But where is that party????? Why are people not organizing to establish such a party and why is no one galvanizing the obvious potential support which they'd have from readers of sites such as CapitolHillBlue, WhatReallyHappened and PrisonPlanet??
What's going on? I'm beginning to feel as though all these “alternative news/info” sites are simply a distraction designed to engage us all in pointless circular rants...nodding our heads and agreeing on how corrupt everything has become…yet never actually doing anything.
Perhaps all these alternative news sites/bloggs are actually orchestrated by the very same entity we're all so disillusioned with. Perhaps they themselves encourage the "truth" to be told, as long as authors NEVER offer the readers any information on real, organized, agents of change.
Phair brings up a good point. Imagine a thousand Ruby Ridges:
Two male adults tied down over 50 federal agents, several helicopters and even shut down a US highway for over a week. At least as many news reporters were also dispatched, costing money and beaming the scenes into every home.
A thousand of those would involve 50,000 federal troops, several thousand helicopters and who knows how much fuel and transportation getting them to the intended location.
A thousand of those would be ten per week for a year.
A thousand Ruby Ridges would be a sure sign of the impending collapse of the US government.
A thousand in a month would be Iraq...
What can be done????????????
One thing for certain, victory will never be realize through our political system, not now! The system is broken and beyond repair. The two party system has been bought and paid for by corporations. A poor man cannot even muster enough resources to run a campaign, must less get elected. It is only through millions of dollars that a person can win an office and the dollars are controlled by corporations.
The only solution is a brand new system! Gerry Spence calls it a "Pancake Democracy". If you are interested you should read "Give Me Liberty". He even supports "abolishing elections", very interesting reading.
"Remember the "Support Denmark" demonstration across from the Danish Embassy last week? The entrance to the Danish Embassy is marked with the letter "B". Less than fifty feet away is a square three-dormer-per-side Georgian house, the only one of its kind on the block..."
What cartoons? This U.S. politician just pulled the blinds!
Problem: Our tax dollars keep the bushes in bidness.
Solution: deprive them of these dollars. How? Start a small business - costs about $30 generally, and you have at least 5 years until you "make a profit". Until then, you can take every tax break known to man, and then some, to reduce your income to below your expenses. Legally, of course... :)
The result is that you get back all the tax dollars you paid into the system through your social security and FICA. Zero-tax proponents risk asset seizure and jail-time. but "spending more than you make on your business" is 100% legal. Don't go into debt trying to do this, but "make sure" your expenditures exceed your revenue stream. Think out of the Box on this one. What the IRS looks for is "spikes" in the tax forms - excess income one year, little the next, or, vice versa. This sends up red flags. But a steady increase of "expenditures greater than income" over the next five years is legit. Check out the DOME TAX books for small business - they have a great list of write-offs for small business that you can take advantage of. Become a "consultant" - or start a home industry - making jewelry, quilts, anything that requires you to buy supplies, keep an "inventory" of the materials used to "create" your product. Have to travel to DC to a museum to see some particular example of work similar to yours? That's a write-off. Fight them where it hurts - their pocketbooks.
Problem: Republican operatives control all the states' voting machines and consequently, we have definitely lost the vote in 2006 and probably the near future, no matter how badly the FUBAR is. We can go on and on how Dems will take back the Senate and House, but fugeddabouddit, get over it. They have the machines and we don't.
Solution: A public effort to distribute voting receipts that tally our exit polling results. Have a central collection point to store the voting record sheets. Have a place on the form for name, address, phone, candidate voted for, and place of polling, etc, etc. Since Diebold won't give us a paper trail, we have to make our own. An organization like MoveOn or some such can design, set up PDF files for output and email-distribute them nationally. We, the people, can download the form and take a copy for the record and one for our own backup. A notary can stamp each received form and the collected forms can be given to a team of lawyers set up to immediately contest the voting results. A national campaign of voter awareness would give credibility and legitimacy to this effort. It would perhaps even turn a few cowardly Dems in Senate and House to get press coverage and who knows what else.
Here's my prediction for the very near future.
Oil in Euro's.
American dollar drops off the scale.
Total breakdown of world economy.
American's fighting off depression, mass chaos while fighting to survive to have fresh water and food, basic essentials.
Possible China may invade American soil.
Wars and rumors of them, rampant.
Global meltdown as nature causes earthquakes , floods off the chart (HAARP runs at full capacity to try and fry peoples brain cells, Just ask Newt Gingrich what HAARP can do since he wrote in a foreword in a 1982 military manual regarding it's use at just the right waveform to render peoples thought processes blank)
The peace maker arrives.
The Bush's so called new world order sets in. Gee, thanks George.
Mark of the beast, either chips or bio-cards.
Cashless society, as anti-christ makes last stab at mankinds freewill. (a real life THX-1138)
How and why, I donot know, but the meek shall inherit the earth.
Thousand years peace.
After 1,000 years the devil gets one last shot at war and if George Lucas is right , it will be Star Wars in real time.
Then the whole pattern starts over again until we get it right, probably for the trillionth time.
Doug every time I read your article, it gets better!.........thanks.
The problem is quite simple.
The American people have for the most part been brainwashed into accepting a faux tug of war between the republicans and the democrats, who have a corner on their money market politics through the abysmal campaigning system in the US. If you don't control the big money, you will never seat either a president or any substantial number of other representatives in any other branch of government. That's just how it is.
Face it. Americans have just let things go that more respectable countries -like the Ukraine- would be up in arms about.
No, you won't elect any third parties or reform your system. It's just not in the American character. You can't ride the coat tails of men and women from 200 years ago, anymore.
Not saying it to be cruel, but that's just how it is. Time has justified these statements to date, and nothing will change in 2006, 2008, 2012, or 2014.
But, honestly, I don't think it's going to matter much by 2008. I figure the horsemen will have ridden most of us down, by then.
Doug, I first thought I was reading the Rude pundits blog. Wow, such language! But you are 100% right and sometimes you need to spew venom. I too was shocked and disappointed by the spineless dems who voted for this nazi type legislation. We lost another part of our freedom yesterday in this country. We should applaud those 10 real patriots who voted again this worthless act.
I don't care what they say. The Democratic party is dead. Progressives have to pick up the mantle and somehow move forward. There is no opposition party as most fell in lockstep with the R's. I will remember who voted for the rights-robbing Patriot Act. Being from Connecticut, I felt that Chris Dodd was a good Democrat until recently. Most of the pundits know our other Senator, Joe Lieberman, who has recently been siding with and fawning all over Bush and his policies. Why can't these people see what they are doing to the American fabric? Because of Bush policies, we are hated the world over. We condone torture and rendition. Bush has signed over 500 "signing statements" to tell the people he will do what he wants. No one has the balls to stand up to him. We are truly in a race to the bottom. Does anyone else feel that the good old U.S. has become another 30's Germany? Impeachment cannot come soon enough. Bush and his cronies are war criminals and it appears that D's are complicit.
you are too cool for school
: )
Hey Doug, have read the Patriot Act?
Maybe it's time the left got over their fear of guns an' ammo...
Arm the Left, join with their patriot brothers on the right and march to the White House...
just thinking out loud of the possibilities...
John Drake:
There is some truth in what you say. Although I dislike violence, I also dislike having my liberties and rights taken away. Those camps they are building are not for foreigners, they are for us, THE DISSENTERS. It is not possible to do more damage than Bush did to this nation in five years. I was afraid of Nixon but with Bush/cronies I have abject fear. We cannot tolerate another 3 years of Zionist/globalist thinking, no border security, giving away of our treasury and ports, cronyism, Iraq, Iran, and the list goes on and on. If they leave the voting with Diebold and no paper trail, these bastards will be in power forever. It does not bode well for the future of America.
Hey Doug -
Never forget: The DLC folks are still in charge of the D Party - and they are the closet neocons; Hillary learned the Straussian schtick at Elliot Abrams knee while on Pat Moynihan's staff. And so many of the others learned it from Scoop Jackson.
This morning I sat down and rolled over a link that dragged me to this blog. I was very surprised to find this holy-grail of political standpoints, not to say I didn’t have to cobweb my way through to get to this ridiculously small corner of the net. There’s a lot of anger in Doug Thompson’s “scum-sucking” article, as even the title suggests, and there’s no doubt that there should be. Yes, critical thinking is being oppressed and squatted on by these left and right wing, power-thirsty bulldogs. Not to mention our rights being squeezed from our constitutional ketchup bottle, and leaving our fellow hotdog and beer citizens without any condiments. The power, as we would wish, should rest in the hands of the people, but it seems America has never really grasped this idea to its fullest extent—even in the foundation of this country. After sifting through some replies and comments to this blog, I read some things that were great, and some things that needed a little more guidance. Surely, a heavenly blog must consist of no partisan left and right wing political views, mark twain quotes, and frightening articles about detaining “Fifth Column” movements (and thanks to the Information Clearing House for that great article) In one reply, full of good intention and even quoting Twain, Tim Goodness thanks the few patriots left in the media, like Doug Thompson. The thing is, let’s not call Doug a patriot—we wouldn’t want to ruin his credibility and marksmanship. The word “patriot” derives straight from the shackles of hell, and I’m sick of our government tossing that word around like a hot-potato. Nothing has came from the word itself other than backed-violence and arrogance.
Then I came to another reply and noticed someone saying america is doomed, whether we like it or not. This is a great site from what I’ve seen so far, but there needs to be plenty more optimism. The golden pendulum will eventually sway our way, and when the time comes it’ll be because of sincere optimism. Let’s try funneling our governments paining upsets and our own anger into something grand; something of progress and value. The politically-shattered democrats are standing against the wall, bitching and moaning about the Republicans stealing the dance floor, while the Republicans step on too many fragile American toes. As a socialist, as a libertarian, or as anything other than our two-way republican/democrat government, let’s start listening more, paying attention, and finally, asking questions. Someone once informed me that a dictating government doesn’t know how to handle a great rising of the people—one full of optimism and questions.
And, God emailed me this article and told me to manifest the news.
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article12139.htm
Matt.
Well said Sir...!
For those that are interested, the Patriot Act is 342 pages in .pdf format. The patriot act is a byzantine, extremely detailed document that basically spells out the total, absolute excision of freedom and liberty from the United States as we know it. The document is a bureaucrat's dream and a freedom loving people's nightmare. I'll provide a link so folks can get their copy of the Patriot Act, but not as amended per the recent vote. I'll provide a link for .pdf downloads of the latest edition of the U.S. Constitution. We must remember that there remains the theoretical balance of powers. So although this act was passed by both houses of our government, rest assured there will be many test cases before the Supreme Court in the ensuing months, and years to come. Of course many people will be possibly damaged gravely, up to an including loss of life, before this monstrosity is cast off by the people. I have to laugh because the fools that passed it, little realize they've just given King George all the rope and power he needs to have them taken out and hanged. All we need is another engineered 911 crisis, martial law declared, the Constitution suspended, and the Patriot Act becoming the order of the day. With Congress suspended, then even they can be rounded up as enemies of the state if they should so much as sqauwk about Bush not playing by the rules. They've sown the wind and shall reap the whirlwind. The reason this has happened is that "We the People" are more enamoured with our privileges and toys, than a love for "FREEDOM". "Those that would trade freedom for security deserve neither" paraphrasing Franklin.
http://www.epic.org/privacy/terrorism/hr3162.pdf
http://www.gpoaccess.gov/constitution/browse2002.html#2004
Carl Nemo
p.s. I wrote (snail-mailed), I emailed, I called my reps,and I collared them when they were in town concerning the renewal of this evil anti-Constitutional garbage that isn't worth being being codified into law, but I could sense my concerns were falling on deaf ears. They are "republicrats" plain and simple. Once they leave Mayberry they have only one thing on their minds, their re-election and maintaining their incumbency forever. They pitch scraps of pork to the folks back home in Mayberry, while they align themselves with the globalist, internationalist, corporate elitist's. America, and the world is in "harms way"...!
Oh, and some more food for thought.
If those detainment centers WERE for us, the radical opposition, think of the positives. We could be joined together other than on the internet, face to face, and cause some real uprising and possibly a revolution. After the rebels like me and you are rounded up like cattle (see American Natives) and they eventually decide to get rid of all the good literature, art, and creativiy in society, we can march straight from the pages of Fahrenheit 451 and bring back justice and some solid reform. If we were all forced together, it would only take time before our nature and intelligence, through some optimism, struck back. What an epic story that would make for generations to come, untill more assholes come around and try stealing the riches in life once again.
Just a different side.
Hi Ho, as Vonnegut would say.
Matt: Hard to be optomistic when Bush is in control. The Information Clearing House is a great website. They have information that is not found on other websites and are not afraid to speak the truth. I feel that if we can harness the anger of the American people, there would not be an energy crisis. The problem with the pendulum theory is that the country will disintegrate before it comes back around
Hey, hey! Truth spoken here! I come from a state that has TWO Democratic Senators and both of them kissed Bush's ass. So, what's the difference between them and a Republican? Zero, zilch, nada, nothing. They don't represent me, they don't care about my freedoms, and they could give a rat ass less about how I feel about it! You know, if the Democrats don't get a clue and forget about Hillary and Harry Reid, then they don't have a chance this fall of taking control of anything. Did Kerry fight for shit in Ohio? Not a chance! That REALLY pissed me off! Give me a man or woman that has the SPIRIT to fight for something! Otherwise, stop calling yourselves Democrats! You're all Demo-rats!
Kimbutgar writes:
Doug, I first thought I was reading the Rude pundits blog.
Doug
Lickspittle:
I concur on the dislike of violence and would never "advocate" it against anyone...but that being said, will we give up our liberties freely and walk peacefully to the detention camps they are building? Will we turn in our neighbors and join the brownshirts to keep from being rounded up? Will we - like the Democrats in the Senate and House - knuckle under and assist in the criminalization of dissent and the round-up of anyone who isn't "with us" as Bush puts it? At what point do the people of this country say "enough" and take to the streets? What will it take for them to act? Will the military come to their senses and realize that the Pentagon is killing them and their families with DU weaponry? Will they revolt? Just say no, and refuse to fight for this criminal organization?
The weapon of fear is one of the strongest tools in the government toolbox - it keeps people afraid, disunited and so busy working to maintain a living that they have no time to connect the dots and realize that they are being screwed - right, left and center. They, like us in this blog, think that this cannot be happening in Amerika and it must be us, paranoid and alone, thinking that we're the crazy ones for even questioning the status quo. The right blames the "liberal media", the left blames the rightwing talking heads, the christians blame the jews and arabs, and the Bush cabal laughs all the way to the world bank. Sow discord. Keep people afraid. As long as they can maintain this, the citizens will never fight back, unify, recognize the common enemy is not one another, but the crooks running the show, and organize to take back the Republic.
My problem with the left is that they are doing nothing in the hopes that the neo-cabal will implode. The right is in denial - a psychological pathology against admitting that Bush is as close to a fascist dictator that we can have, and that they have "let it happen" on their watch. It's like a mexican standoff - no one does anything while Bush fiddles and lets Rome burn. Do they honestly think - dems and repubs - that they will not suffer any consequences of Bush's police state? He'll be like Stalin - even his supporters went to the Gulags. I am astounded to think that both parties are powerless to act - but perhaps they, like Bush, just don't care. As long as they "get theirs" and can put it away in some offshore account for the future, the rest of us can go fuck ourselves.
An alternative...
How about...
The Red White and Blue Party
The party for Republican, Independant, Democrats for intelligent, open government for the people.
The party who will engage in active debate over ideas specific to doing the citizens business and unwaivering support for the constitution.
The party who supports candidates who have a clean unspotted reputation for honesty and living within the rule of law.
Honest people can be of different leanings and sit at a table together to sanely enact legislation in the interest of the nation and its people.
Checks and Balances are always healthy in a democracy, why not within the same party to be sure all legislation considers the range of interests of the American people.
Just an idea....
Question:
Is it not possible that the very form of our government has been subverted since the civil war?
Its been a long wicked march to this place were we are now and it started with the 1st republican administration..Lincoln.
Consider this...what if all three "branches" of govt have finally colluded to subvert the freedom of the people...is this so hard to imagine considering the numerous decades since Lincoln destroyed the 10 amendment, removing any ability of the Local govts to check the federal Oligarcy?...If all 3 (and i assert its not if but a fact) are finally in full userption mode then its really too late except to wait for an inevitable collapse, and be ready to RE- establish the peoples authority BY TAKING CARE OF EACH OTHER AT THE NEIGHBOR LEVEL(this is true classic federal republicanism) and tar and feathering any carpet bagging federal jackboot coming to "help" us. Katrina disgusted me because of the locals sitting and dying waiting on mother washington, when those people had a chance to take their state back. Imagine if they had raided the feds (whenthey finally showed)instead of the walmart! releiving the feds of the "peoples" supplys and weapons and sending them packing back to DC loudly procaliming their local authority! Proclaiming proudly New orleans has has provided for her own!Imagine the news coverage!This is what the legendary "American" would do. The federal government has so weakend and dumbed us down with their soilent green hand outs and Addled public schools the we are no more then neutered sheep.!
I pray for the collapse! ANdPray we dont end up missing that brief window that will follow with the choice to either restore the peoples soverignty and liberty or hand what little of it was left for a work camp and orange suit forever handing our future to the despots!
VOX POPULI= Liberty!
Bryan B. writes:
Hey Doug, have read the Patriot Act?
Yep, every version, unlike the scumbags in Congress who passed the first version without even reading it (and I'd bet some of those who voted Thursday haven't read the damn thing either). It's one of the most fascist pieces of legislation I've read and I've written more than a few pieces of legislation myself.
Doug
Diebold reigns supreme in Ohio. Nate, I feel your pain. Uselesss Democrats and Republicans are exactly the same: Money, Power, and Access. They do not care how we feel as long as they get re-elected. Those bastards do not represent me either, or most other Americans. They were re-elected for one reason: Fear by the American people. It is too bad that by the time they wake up, it will be too late.
John Drake:
Good post. You hit the nail on the head. As much as I abhor violence, I'm afraid I would be one of the first to rise up. We cannot just "dutifully" be led to the camps. It appears that Bush wants us to turn in our neighbors and friends. (Remember the snitch line to turn in anyone who we don't agree with? or we perceive to be "Un-American"). I fought in Vietnam in '68-'69 and the state of American politicws absolutely sucks.
I hope there are people still in the military who see Bush for what he is. There must be top generals who are disgusted and dissatisified with this "administration".
DU and white phosphorous are illegal. We used them in Vietnam for illumination, but never was used as a weapon as is the case in Iraq.
Yes, keep people AFRAID. That is how they stay in power and how they get re-elected. I think that even Republicans are starting to get tired of the Bush antics.
There will be a price to pay. I am hoping that it will come this fall. All the bastards voting for the Patriot Act should get what they deserve, and that includes my ex-beloved Democratic party. I, too, am upset with my progressive and liberal friends. Where is the outrage? People are too complacent until they get bit in the ass, and by then it will be too late. The camps will have been built (with taxpayer money) and just like GITMO, the NWO will be the guards. You are 100% right. They could care less about us and will continue to worship the almighty dollar. Like Chubby Checker said in 1961's "The Twist" "How low can you go?".
Shouldn't American posts be run by Americans?
Typo: should read American ports
I'm really surprised that anybody is surprised by this. These are your "moderates". Us "wacko" lefties have been saying for some time that the Dems as a whole aren't worth a bag of shit, and the few that are usually end up the laughing stock...
Patty Murray has never stood taller!! I am proud to say I have supported her from the beginning. I don't understand how any Democrat could vote to reduce our freedom. This is more about Bush's dictatorship than our country's security.
We've got a total of ten Patriots in Congress.
TEN.
In CONGRESS.
How utterly devastating.
God Bless those guys.
The rest o'those schill-suckin overbloated pinheads should be frogmarched to Gitmo and get a taste of their own medicine.
three words...
Halliburton detention facilities.
Tax money well spent.
Wow, this blog really does move fast. I was scrolling to see if anyone disagreed with what I said...and I found myself reading for another twenty minutes. My small and rendering blog hasnt taken off yet--due to my lack of computer skills. Here's a letter I received in the mail today.
My fellow Patriot, My fellow Friend,
Due to the certain governing laws recently passed, no more informative newsletters full of political opinions and poignant pig manure are to be sent. As you already know, The Stars and Bars Act (SABA) has been approved and passed through Congress on March 2nd, 2006. Under this great American statute we have been able to stop the interfering and troublesome Supreme Court by disenfranchising it completely. Thanks to President Bush and his loyal Administration, you can now live a terrorist-free and peaceful way of life. Because of particular evil-doers from the Middle East, our country has issued a state of emergency, and you are required as an American citizen to report to your local police station. Upon arrival, you will be asked to participate in a few quick fingerprints and photographs to ensure the safety and health benefits to every dudiful Patriot such as yourself. After this quick process, you and your family will receive free tickets to the 1st Annual Flag-Wave Clambake. The night will start with finger food and Cocktails, followed by an extravagent all-night dance. Failure to report to your local station will result to impending arrest and further prosecution.
Thank you for your time,
King Bush and The New Republic of America.
P.S. Under the new Jurisdiction of Prominent Partisan, your new state and home, Lord Baron will represent you as your noblemen. Just as a reminder, your chicken and corn tax is due March 21st. Report to Lord Baron.
http://mathiasstepback.blogspot.com/
The Democrats held up their fingers to the wind, and the wind told them : "Mr Democrat, more Americans want the Patriot Act than do not. So if you know what'll be good for you this November, you'll know what to do".
And the Democrats got the message.
Amen.
Yes, indeed. How long have we known that these righteous democrats have shorn their sheeps clothing and voted for the Patriot Act, UNSEEN and UNREAD, and almost immediately thereafter voted to provide the president with an unprecedented war powers act, which, btw, has morphed into an anti
FISA Act supercalifragelistic authorization to eliminate the Fourth Amendment?
All of these heros have been in DC long enough to know EXACTLY what the ramifications of their VOTE would be. And now it is SUCH a surprise!
It's like an Arab displaying a bloody sheet on the morning after his daughters marriage to prove her virginity! Show us the dead chickens!
I have been a loyal Democrat until a few months ago. My highest admiration goes to Russ Feingold and Robert Byrd. Every American ought to carry a copy of the Constitution with them, as he does.
The important thing to remember is that the Preamble to the Constitution is not just a few nice sounding phrases used to introduce it. The Preamble is an essential working part of the Constitution. It is really the "meat snd potatos" - the thing that gives the rest its meaning.
remember "We, the People of the United States......."? It doesn't say "WE, The corporations", or "We, the Executive Department..", or "We, the Pentagon." It establishes the People as the sovereign power in this country. Then it sets out several functions or responsibilities of the Federal Government. The Preamble and the Bill of Rights are the real operating parts of the Constitution. The rest is mechanical detail.
When we all recognize that, and act on it, The USA can be a shining light for the world. Right now, we have Justices of several courts, and government attorneys who are supposedly bright, but know nothing. they play cute with established law, and twist the words and meaning of former Justices such as Robert H. Jackson, one of the great protectors of individual rights. If you want an idea of Jackson's notions of what public policy is all about, read THAT MAN, a bio of FDR, started by Jackson, and finished after his death by Prof. Paul Barrett, his biographer.
Question is, what do we do to change things? A few modest suggestions:
1. No more money to Committees - only to selected indivdual candidates.
2. Write letters to legislators using the same language expressed in this blog - if enough are sent, they'll start to get the picture.
3. support organizations like MoveOn.org and others of that ilk
4. Join/Form state organizations to reform state election laws. Voting machines are only one issue.
Voting machines need to have a verifiable paper trail. The software for any machine has to be owned by the government or an independant non partisan election commission, and not a private corporation.
There is no question that the presidency of GW Bush has been the most disasterous in US history. There is good reason to compare the current situation in the US to the stuation in Germany about 1936-8. If one tried, you could even equate some of the personalities in the two countries.
I'm for a drastic change to progressive government, like all who wrote here. Let's try to find a way to concentrate our firepower. Good Luck.
Not only all of that, but the 'Patriot Act' actually makes us LESS SAFE!!!
Hey Dooogie you better hope you never find this Democrat in your face you arrogant punk because the next thing is gonna be my foot in your ass. If you think your man enough come to Washington Pa. and get in arms reach of this coal miner. The only thing being shoved down someones throat is my fist down yours.
Doug,After reading your wonderful diatribe concerning our so-called"elected representatives"traitorous passage of the orwellian named"patriot act"and all subsequent"reader rants",I skipped over to"Strike the Root" and learned that Harry Browne had passed away yesterday.
Words cannot express the sorrow that I feel at this time,we have lost a true patriot at a time that we could really use his voice and wisdom.May God bless and keep him.
Doug It sounds like you are coming to your senses. It's over dude. There ain't a fugging thing we can do about it. You better leave the country. They'll be after your ass.
An eliminarian.. I always wondered what I was! ;-)
I figure Dems vs Repubs are just 'Good Cop/Bad Cop'... they both want the same thing.. & that isn't my good health & comfort.
Don't Vote.. It just Encourages Them.
didn't John F. say something about "If you make peaceful protest impossible, you make violent revolution inevitable.".. I realize he was refering to the 'godless' communists.. but, fascism in any form...
bobby
Okay. Here's the elephant in the room no one's talking about. Just maybe the reason the Democrats gave only a token 10 against the Patriot Act is that they too want their turn at being Dictator of America. It's possible that the economic whirlwind planted by the Bush admin is planned to smack us during a Democrat administration (remember Nixon-->Carter?). That would make any populist programs impossible (oh, what a surprise).
But there is one thing that only the Democrats as Dictator can add to the general fascistic turn of events: gun confiscation.
At first I was angry and sad, but I read through the list of names of the senaters who had the guts to stand up for what is right. My senater Carl Levin is on the list. I took the time to thank him. He stands up for what is right alot. I call his office weekly. I called his answer line to thank him as soon as I read the list of names of our senate heros. I am tired I have been paying close attention to what george w does for 5 long years sense he stole the first election. I plan on calling the brave Senaters who voted for us and thanking them. And I plan on calling my other senator and telling her what a hero Carl Levin is. We need to let them know how we are feeling. MOstly they hear only about what we personally need. I think someone said it right last night people are too busy with their own life. Why isn't the American public listening?
Good night, and good luck!
Go see the movie "V for Vengance".
Remember the British TV show the "Prisoner" and how he foiled his captors.
Check out the movie "Leon - The Professional" - but get the extended version 133 minutes short.
Rent "The Day of the Jackel" .
See the movie "Z".
Dream of a better country - of the people, by the people and for the people.
Arm the Left - and join the Right - and Fight.
This country is not worth saving...so don't get yourself in such a sweat, Doug. We love you, man.
Have some drinks, get laid...we don't live forever.....G
doug a little off topic here , but can the attorney general be barred from practicing law by the american l;egal association or whatever the agency is that disbarrs attys?maybe someone with a little clout could try
hey doug reading through some of the comments , i know we are all tired of dubya and dubai the whole situation is sickening , but we are all praying for you, dont let these psychopath gop mudslingers scare you . i know this sounds like a lunatic , but i have literally seen the light of God 7-17-98 literally with sober eyes, he is with us, but it is our fight ,keep the faith my friend.and i am no dem either never thought i would even consider voting for them , but right now out of the 2 party and with the libertarian candidate dying today,there isnt much hope. but i am not affiliated with benfrank.net but you might want to give him a hand if you like his ideas. 435 men for the constitution. i think what needs to be addressed is someone with national exposure to get the grassrooots started. if nothing else get 435 voting district representatives , get bycycles and go door to door asking people to sign a pledge to vote for neither party so the grassroots could get exposure. maybe you can turn either the disbar post or grassroots door to door petition drive going, into one of your well worded articles. just some of my simpleminded ideas , dont know if they are practical or not , but just felt like screamin from the wilderness if u know what i mean. God help us all , even the people to blind to see through bush
What, you STILL can't tell Tweedledum from Tweedledee?
Feh.
hi Doug, how is your radio voice? Franken the moderate centrist was supposed to be "our voice of outrage" to combat the Limbaughs and Oreillys. it just hasn't worked out. maybe something about the way he supported war in iraq. or something about the way he's completely ineffective.
Goes to show that there's not a dime's worth of difference between the two "major" parties.
Vote Constitution Party.
If you live in Ohio--April 8, Cuyahoga Falls, Ohio State Constitution Party covention.
Give 'em HELL, Doug! You're always a great read!
As time marches on, the friends of liberty and freedom are fewer and fewer in number, while more and more remain entranced in evil's slumber.
timeless, prescient adage: "You never truly appreciate things until they are gone."
The sleeper must awaken!
Upon awakening, will they recognize what they have unwittingly wrought?
Quit speaking as if Democrats and Republicans were anything other than the heads of a two-headed snake. We have to have two political parties to further the illusion that we live in a democracy. Gimme a break. How long are we going to keep calling ourselves free, or the home of the brave?
I read comments like "We need a third party!" or "When is somebody going to DO something about these people!" Jeesh, folks, where have you been?
We've got third parties coming out our ears! We've got people working their butts off trying to change the way things are going. The only thing missing? The voters!
Look, there are dozens of "third parties." I like the Libertarians, myself, but there are the Greens, the Constitution Party, and many more from every part of the political landscape. You mean you couldn't find ONE among all of them that you might mostly agree with?
When you do, just go and vote for their candidates. Vote for ANYBODY except the D's and R's. The only thing preserving the illusion that we CONSENT to this government is the way we slavishly vote for the dominant party candidates.
What do you think would happen if in EVERY place that proper voting machines still exist the "third party" vote doubled, tripled, or quadrupled in each of the next few elections?
The time that we have to do anything at all via the ballot box is getting short, people. Get your butts in gear and vote for the opposition party that you most agree with! Perfect fit or not, not a chance in hell of winning THIS TIME, of course, but vote for the long run best interests of yourself and of this country for once!
DO IT!
Gee, wasn't it General George S. Patton Jr. who said "the Democratic Party, the Republican Party , the Nazi Party their all about the same."
A good third party is the Constitution Party
When will people understand that democracy is nothing more than MOB RULE????
And, if Patton didn't say it, I wish he had.
Jeff
Your right on the funny money. To bad we can't get commentary like this from the 1st amendment terrorist and enemy combatents of the mainstream whore press corpses. Enough people might wake up to put all these traitors in the executive branch, 3/4 of congress, 4/5ths of the senate, half the DOJ, State Dept (Now the Ministry Of Truth), NSA, CIA, FEMA and FBI in jail or hell after the trials.
The only good party now is a LYNCHING PARTY.
LOOKS LIKE YOUR ALL IN A BIT OF HOT WATER .IT MAKES GOOD READING FROM OVERSEAS.YOUR ONCE GREAT NATION IS ABOUT TO CRUMBLE LIKE SADDAMS STATUE.ONLY THERE WONT BE ROOM FOR ALL THE PEOPLE WHO WANT TO JUMP UP AND DOWN ON THE RUBBLE.GOOD LUCK .HAVE YOU SOME FOOD AND WATER STORAGE?
one thing to remember, the globalists want everyone disenfranchised with our republic system of gov't, they want to see us lose faith in our elected, everything! Then the UN can be called in to save us because our country is in the crapper. Then they win anyway. We must return this country to the Constitution.
Good post, kind of a rant, but have at 'er...one other poster said that democracy is mob rule.
most democrats aren't and angry mob, nor are they mobsters...and I think it's easy to forget what a cool thing it is to have democracy, anyone who doesn't appreciate it can go spend some time in some 3rd world dump where they don't have it...
Another mistake I think people make is in blaming bush or this adminisration even for a lot of today's problems. At the end of the day, they're all just politicians, and they are, in their own twisted way, trying to do The Will Of The People. And bluntly, like in Bulworth, too many people are too busy eatin' fried chickan and watching NASCAR etc. to really sit down and express themselves on paper, or even call into a radio show, or anything like that for em to really care or want to listen to the people.
I think we need National Voting Day, a day set aside, just for voting, on which all your local businesses and merchants VOLUNTARILY support it by closing down so their employees, too, can go vote. If we don't support the process, garbage in, garbage out.
I also think some issues like raising the debt
cap need to come to a public vote. I think
Congress has a Big Problem in staying away from
The Big Magic Checkbook, and they need positive reinforcement from the People on how to get rid of this stupid debt, and not just build a new one.
Energy: same issue. People drive cars. They won't stop driving cars. We could still save
20 percent or more of our fuel through a national initiative. Simple problems, simple answers, we're not hearing em from washington...
why?
The People are the source of america's power. They're also the source of america's current problems. Blamw whom you please, but to my mind the Scarlet Letter belongs to those who are plain too whiny and bitchy to submit their opinion during our elections. You 40%er's, as it were, the guys n gals that turned their noses up at the 2004 election.
Now, here's a question, when bush and cheney finally convince the rest of they country they're on dope and get fired, which i think will happen either this year or next, who's gonna replace em?
Like it or lump it, a spaghetti-noodle waffler isn't going to be able to make hay while the sun shines in washington, or bring reform issues to the table in such a way as to gain the ear of the entrenched special interests that more or less seem to run the country today.
I think energy reform is the best way to go on this, and I'm really glad it seems like Bush has turned the corner on just letting the energy boys tell him what to do.
Finally, I really think it'd be a great idea to see an independent candidate take center stage.
America was founded on Independence, not cheap prices on venezuela's bananas or whatever.
Nationally, we've gotten lazy. Obesity statistics spell that one out in black and white.
It stands to reason that our national policy, which derives from the Will Of The People, is also going to show signs of that. People want a free lunch, they want it all, and they'd like it NOW, please...I say institute 30% across-the-board spending cuts and internal austerity measures for all our official goings-on, cut some of the money out of the whole mess and maybe see some of the larceny go with it. Reforms can work, but they have to be honest, effective, well-thought-out measures to really take it over the top, and that's about where we're at today, people can't see clear to invest enough of their time effort and energy in putting something down on paper that WILL work and taking it forward, to their city council, state representative, anything like that.
Part of that is the amount of attention we pay nationally to civics and government.
We, The People, have some very tough choices to make: Is The Government, as an entity, just to end up as The Ultimate Giver Of The Welfare Check, or was it supposed to be something different before the welfare queens and the big business boys got to it? Lady Liberty's kind of in the process of being raped, AND mugged, at the same time. And then there's those nice muslim people that like us so much. Decisions, decisions...
Good post, kind of a rant, but have at 'er...one other poster said that democracy is mob rule.
most democrats aren't and angry mob, nor are they mobsters...and I think it's easy to forget what a cool thing it is to have democracy, anyone who doesn't appreciate it can go spend some time in some 3rd world dump where they don't have it...
Another mistake I think people make is in blaming bush or this adminisration even for a lot of today's problems. At the end of the day, they're all just politicians, and they are, in their own twisted way, trying to do The Will Of The People. And bluntly, like in Bulworth, too many people are too busy eatin' fried chickan and watching NASCAR etc. to really sit down and express themselves on paper, or even call into a radio show, or anything like that for em to really care or want to listen to the people.
I think we need National Voting Day, a day set aside, just for voting, on which all your local businesses and merchants VOLUNTARILY support it by closing down so their employees, too, can go vote. If we don't support the process, garbage in, garbage out.
I also think some issues like raising the debt
cap need to come to a public vote. I think
Congress has a Big Problem in staying away from
The Big Magic Checkbook, and they need positive reinforcement from the People on how to get rid of this stupid debt, and not just build a new one.
Energy: same issue. People drive cars. They won't stop driving cars. We could still save
20 percent or more of our fuel through a national initiative. Simple problems, simple answers, we're not hearing em from washington...
why?
The People are the source of america's power. They're also the source of america's current problems. Blamw whom you please, but to my mind the Scarlet Letter belongs to those who are plain too whiny and bitchy to submit their opinion during our elections. You 40%er's, as it were, the guys n gals that turned their noses up at the 2004 election.
Now, here's a question, when bush and cheney finally convince the rest of they country they're on dope and get fired, which i think will happen either this year or next, who's gonna replace em?
Like it or lump it, a spaghetti-noodle waffler isn't going to be able to make hay while the sun shines in washington, or bring reform issues to the table in such a way as to gain the ear of the entrenched special interests that more or less seem to run the country today.
I think energy reform is the best way to go on this, and I'm really glad it seems like Bush has turned the corner on just letting the energy boys tell him what to do.
Finally, I really think it'd be a great idea to see an independent candidate take center stage.
America was founded on Independence, not cheap prices on venezuela's bananas or whatever.
Nationally, we've gotten lazy. Obesity statistics spell that one out in black and white.
It stands to reason that our national policy, which derives from the Will Of The People, is also going to show signs of that. People want a free lunch, they want it all, and they'd like it NOW, please...I say institute 30% across-the-board spending cuts and internal austerity measures for all our official goings-on, cut some of the money out of the whole mess and maybe see some of the larceny go with it. Reforms can work, but they have to be honest, effective, well-thought-out measures to really take it over the top, and that's about where we're at today, people can't see clear to invest enough of their time effort and energy in putting something down on paper that WILL work and taking it forward, to their city council, state representative, anything like that.
Part of that is the amount of attention we pay nationally to civics and government.
We, The People, have some very tough choices to make: Is The Government, as an entity, just to end up as The Ultimate Giver Of The Welfare Check, or was it supposed to be something different before the welfare queens and the big business boys got to it? Lady Liberty's kind of in the process of being raped, AND mugged, at the same time. And then there's those nice muslim people that like us so much. Decisions, decisions...
Good post, kind of a rant, but have at 'er...one other poster said that democracy is mob rule.
most democrats aren't and angry mob, nor are they mobsters...and I think it's easy to forget what a cool thing it is to have democracy, anyone who doesn't appreciate it can go spend some time in some 3rd world dump where they don't have it...
Another mistake I think people make is in blaming bush or this adminisration even for a lot of today's problems. At the end of the day, they're all just politicians, and they are, in their own twisted way, trying to do The Will Of The People. And bluntly, like in Bulworth, too many people are too busy eatin' fried chickan and watching NASCAR etc. to really sit down and express themselves on paper, or even call into a radio show, or anything like that for em to really care or want to listen to the people.
I think we need National Voting Day, a day set aside, just for voting, on which all your local businesses and merchants VOLUNTARILY support it by closing down so their employees, too, can go vote. If we don't support the process, garbage in, garbage out.
I also think some issues like raising the debt
cap need to come to a public vote. I think
Congress has a Big Problem in staying away from
The Big Magic Checkbook, and they need positive reinforcement from the People on how to get rid of this stupid debt, and not just build a new one.
Energy: same issue. People drive cars. They won't stop driving cars. We could still save
20 percent or more of our fuel through a national initiative. Simple problems, simple answers, we're not hearing em from washington...
why?
The People are the source of america's power. They're also the source of america's current problems. Blamw whom you please, but to my mind the Scarlet Letter belongs to those who are plain too whiny and bitchy to submit their opinion during our elections. You 40%er's, as it were, the guys n gals that turned their noses up at the 2004 election.
Now, here's a question, when bush and cheney finally convince the rest of they country they're on dope and get fired, which i think will happen either this year or next, who's gonna replace em?
Like it or lump it, a spaghetti-noodle waffler isn't going to be able to make hay while the sun shines in washington, or bring reform issues to the table in such a way as to gain the ear of the entrenched special interests that more or less seem to run the country today.
I think energy reform is the best way to go on this, and I'm really glad it seems like Bush has turned the corner on just letting the energy boys tell him what to do.
Finally, I really think it'd be a great idea to see an independent candidate take center stage.
America was founded on Independence, not cheap prices on venezuela's bananas or whatever.
Nationally, we've gotten lazy. Obesity statistics spell that one out in black and white.
It stands to reason that our national policy, which derives from the Will Of The People, is also going to show signs of that. People want a free lunch, they want it all, and they'd like it NOW, please...I say institute 30% across-the-board spending cuts and internal austerity measures for all our official goings-on, cut some of the money out of the whole mess and maybe see some of the larceny go with it. Reforms can work, but they have to be honest, effective, well-thought-out measures to really take it over the top, and that's about where we're at today, people can't see clear to invest enough of their time effort and energy in putting something down on paper that WILL work and taking it forward, to their city council, state representative, anything like that.
Part of that is the amount of attention we pay nationally to civics and government.
We, The People, have some very tough choices to make: Is The Government, as an entity, just to end up as The Ultimate Giver Of The Welfare Check, or was it supposed to be something different before the welfare queens and the big business boys got to it? Lady Liberty's kind of in the process of being raped, AND mugged, at the same time. And then there's those nice muslim people that like us so much. Decisions, decisions...
Osama has won. If the War on Terror is a fight against those wish to destroy all that we in the west hold precious, our liberties, our rights, our freedoms, then he has won. And he has won a sparkling victory. To be in Australia today is to see a nation quietly, insidiously, coming apart at the seams. Tony Blair had to turn his back on intelligence warnings and let the July bombers do their business to spearhead his anti-terror laws, GW Bush had to turn his back on tens of thousands of New Orleans residents to show how impossible it was for the Fed and State Governments to handle massive disasters and thereby get what he wanted in the first place : the right for him to determine an emergency crisis that demands the deployment of armed troops on US soil.
Australian PM John Howard just rode the back of July 7 and September 11 and the Bali bombings, and now he can deploy troops on the streets of Sydney whenever he wants, emergency or not.
The War On Terror was supposed to be a war against "freedom haters", but now we know who really hates freedom most of all don't we? Bush, Blair and Howard are now the most unpopular leaders of their respective countries in decades, and we all know why, and they know why, they don't care, and most of us don't care. It's already too late. "Let freedom reign", Condi Rice declared when Iraqis went to the polls. Let Freedom Reign, just not here.
You are a legend, Doug, and we will enjoy your 'Truthiness' while we still can, and we will remember you fondly once you're packed away in the camps with all the others who dared to speak the truth when it mattered most.
Bush is not as bad as Hitler, he is worse.
At least Hitler(power hungy dictator & mass murder) cared about his country in a perverted way.
Bush does not give a dam about his own. He has sold it out at JQ publics peril,10 years from now we will be "third world" if there is a world remaining.
We almost impeached Clinton for a BJ lie where as Bush has deceived his country at the cost of a couple trillion dollars & 100,000 lives (bank rolled by China!!) He created the katrina foly, the ports deal fiasco, let 911 happen... hell I can go on & on.
Damm Right!!! it is so encouraging to see people wake up to the fact that there is only ONE Party running things the republocrats!! the phoney disagreements and phoney arguments are just like professional wrestling all for show!! this bunch including Hillary voted time and again for all of bush's legislation and wars
Doug, just keep asking about those DANCING ISRAELIS, that missing passenger plane at the Pentagon crash site, that curious military stand-down on the morning of the attacks, and about 15 other strange anomalies which point to an INSIDE JOB. Begin there and don't let up. The Patriot Act would not have been an issue if the nation had been made to examine the truth about 9/11.
To fully understand the story I am about to tell, it is important that you understand what Zionism really is. Zionist propaganda has led the American people to believe that Zionism and Judaism are one and the same and that they are religious in nature. THIS IS A BLATANT LIE. Judaism is a religion; but Zionism is a political movement started mainly by East European (Ashkenazi) Jews who for centuries have been the main force behind communism and socialism. The ultimate goal of the Zionists is one-world government under the control of the Zionists and the Zionist-oriented Jewish International Bankers. Communism and socialism are merely tools to help them accomplish their goals.The powerful Zionist propaganda machine has led the American people to believe that a Jew is a Jew -- one race of people and that they are "God's Chosen People." I will deal with the "God's Chosen People" LIE later. First, it is important for you to understand that Jews are NOT one race of people.
There are two distinct groups of Jews in the world and they come from two different areas of the world -- the SEPHARDIC Jews from the Middle East and North Africa, and the ASHKENAZI Jews come from Eastern Europe.
The SEPHARDIC is the oldest group and it is they, if any, who are Jews described in the Bible. They are blood relatives to the Arabs -- the only difference between them is religion.
The ASHKENAZI Jews, who now comprise 90% of the Jews in the world, had a rather strange beginning. According to historians, many of them Jewish, the Ashkenazi Jews came into existence about 1200 years ago. It happened this way:
At the eastern edge of Europe, there lived a tribe of people known as the Khazars. About the year 740 A.D., the Khazar king and his court decided they should adopt a religion for their people. So, representatives of the three major religions, Christianity, Islam and Judaism, were invited to present their religious doctrines. The Khazars chose Judaism, but it wasn't for religious reasons. If the Khazars had chosen Islam, they would have angered the strong Christian world. If they had chosen Christianity, they would have angered the strong Islamic world. So, they played it safe -- they chose Judaism. It wasn't for religious reasons the Khazars chose Judaism; it was for political reasons.
Sometime during the 13th (10th-11th) century, the Khazars were driven from their land and they migrated westward with most of them settling in Poland and Russia. These Khazars are now known as Ashkenazi Jews. Because these Khazar (Ashkenazi) Jews merely chose Judaism, they are not really Jews -- AT LEAST NOT BLOOD JEWS.THE HOLOCAUST MAY NOT HAVE HAPPENED -- IF --
1. If the Zionist leadership in Germany had not cooperated with the Nazis.
2. If the Zionists, world-wide, had not persuaded various countries to refuse to accept Jews from Germany. The Zionists in America persuaded President Roosevelt to shut the door and not allow Jewish refugees into America before the war when there was still a chance for Jews to leave Germany.
It must be added that many people, including Jews, question whether the Holocaust happened as portrayed by the Zionist propagandists -- at least to the extent the Zionists claim.The American people have been led to believe that Jews are "God's Chosen People." This MYTH was started by a small group of Jews. A few Jewish leaders took excerpts from the Bible and interpreted them to mean that God designated them as "Chosen People." But, isn't it odd that it is not the religious Jews who claim to be "God's Chosen People." It is the atheistic non-believing Jews who claim that honor.
Leading the cry, "We are God's Chosen People" are the Zionist/Marxist (Ashkenazi) Jews who for POLITICAL purposes chose Judaism and who DON'T HAVE A DROP OF BIBLICAL JEWISH BLOOD IN THEM.the Zionists will let NO ONE STAND IN THEIR WAY. During world war II, the Zionist leadership cooperated with the Nazis by delivering lower class jews to the concentration camps. So, it is not surprising that they sank the ship PATRA carrying 252 Jewish immigrants who the Zionists feared might oppose Zionism. In another incident, 760 Jewish lives were lost when the Zionists sank the ship STRUMA for the same reason.
Even well-known world figures are not immune to Zionist terrorism and violence. In 1948, in an effort to bring about a peaceful settlement in the Israeli/Palestine area, the United nations sent Count Folke Bernadotte of Sweden to mediate. Count Bernadotte favored a partition of the area -- a portion of the land for Jews and a portion for Palestinians. This enraged the Zionists who demanded ALL THE LAND. In a brazen show of disregard for diplomacy, justice and common decency, the Zionists "eliminated" Count Bernadotte. He and his driver were assassinated while driving in the streets of Jerusalem.
Tens of millions of people have been killed since the Zionist/bolshevik Jews, backed by the Zionist-oriented Jewish international bankers, took over Russia. In the Mideast, the same Zionist/bolshevik Jews are using the very same tactic: to rout the Arabs from their land they have killed untold thousands of Arabs and rendered hundreds of thousands homeless.
The question arises: how many Arabs will the Zionist/bolsheviks kill when they gain control over the Mideast and when they gain PHYSICAL control over America? They already have control of nearly every phase of American life. If the Zionists ever succeed in imposing GUN CONTROL on the American people, there will be nothing to stop them from a complete takeover of America.
Stop playing politics with the safety of the USA. The Patriot Act is the most important act in over 50 years. Common sense has won out over cry baby politics. If you can find another country with more civil liberties and human rights than the one you live in then you should go move there.
Demo-rats, Rebubli-rats, they are all the same. They all obey their singular master, who by the way, is not Bush, but Satan. This is a total take-over by the Luciferions. It has taken a long time, but they are doing it. Get yourselves right with God, 'cause you ain't seen nothin' yet. This is only the beggining of the hell on earth for not only the nation, but the entire world.
If you Americans can't put a third political party into motion under these circumstances I think you are screwed.
I have read with great interest the posts and the article by Doug. I agree that the time has come that decisive action must be taken to save our republic. Since the Democrats aka Communist Party and the Republicans aka Fascist party are currently in power it is high time to motivate Americans to throw them all out as many have said here. Short of armed conflict to regain our rights the only solution is to force the Congress ,Senate, President,and the judiciary all to be removed for breach of their oath of office. They all gave an oath to support and defend the Constitution. They by their actions are destroying it. Have any of you considered mobilizing your efforts behind the Constitution Party. This independent party had a Presidential candidate on the ballot in 37 states during the last stolen election. I say for myself," give me liberty or give me death"
I simply do not understand, everyone with an IQ over two sees the elephant in the room (Bush and the rising dictatorship of the global NWO)but all we are doing is acknowledging it is there, the elephant isn't going to go away! These trators in Washington are laughing at all true patriots. Washington is simply a name for a private club of socialist elitist totally disconnected from mainstream America. RepubliCrats, vipers and snakes all. Every patriot site I visit I read the same bitch'n and moan'n, all talk. One man or woman alone can't solve the problems, however, one man, or woman, able to lead and stand against tyranny can affect major change. One stick breaks easily (one man alone), a bundle of sticks will not yield so easily (power of, for, and by the people). People like Doug are using their means and assets to get the word out, but, sadly, few have the intelligence to hear or see. Having ears to hear they hear not, having eyes to see, they see not. Years of brainwashing and conditioning in American public education (state indoctrination facilities called public schools) are proving highly effective. We American's are like a man standing on the tain tracks, we see and hear the train approaching and yet we're too stupid (or lazy ) to get off the tracks, we just continue to talk about the train. We have all stood by and majored in minors at the skillful "osama" fear mongering of the trators in Washington while these traitors have put in place all the diabolical fascist tools, rules, and protections they need to solidify their dictatorship and close all doors of opposition, even to constructing their "re-education camps." The German's can't be blamed for Hitler's sly moves and Nazification of Germany because they had no precedent, but we have history, and like dumb sheep to the slaughter we are standing and watching it repeat, without lifting a finger (even the middle one). Bush will soon complete his plan of placing the military and all internal law enforcement directly at his command, it's just a matter of time. Then we might as well kiss our ass good bye because they will not hesitate to stop any of us with extreme prejudice after labeling all who oppose them as "terrorist combatants." They left ample room in their fascist rule book (Patriot Act, man, what a misnomer)to use against us. If teachers can be fired for making historical comparisons (Hitler regime)banning of free speech, think what they have in store for the rest of us. If people can be jailed for questioning the holocaust, or making an of color comment, think what we have in store for speaking out against these tyrants. As the old saying goes, we either need to shit or get off the pot(not to be confused with Mexican gold). America will have no one to blame but the tater chip eat'n, beer drink'n, sports crazed, pornographic saturated fools we are. Bush isn't the stupid one, he and his ilk are still crying "bring'm on," and we'll all be sitting in some concentration camp, or prison cell for political dissent, talking about what we "should've, would've, could've have done." "I told you so" will be the theme of the hour. No, I don't have the answers either, I'm an old man, all I can do is use what resources I have, my key board, the fight belongs to the young. Like many others, I'm trying to provoke thought. It will take a leader with courage and clout to rise up with the know how to lead the way to stop these criminals, just as it took the courage of our forefathers to resist the bondage of England. America stands on the theshold of an abyss, once she slips in there is no return. The question is, do we deserve freedom anymore? Our "leadres" in Washington have determined that we not only do not deserve freedoms and liberty (according to some, we have too much freedom), we don't even deserve what they have called "just a G-D piece of paper, our constitution. If that isn't traitorous, then what is? Here is a word to the watchful and the wise (a thinker, and coming soon to your residence); "Once "chipped" always and forever "chipped." Let's pray someone stands up before it's too late (which will be soon). Thanks for the opportunity to rant, this too will soon be a privilage of the past.
How boring, how cliched : Love It Or Leave It.
How old is that argument? If you could even call it an argument. Get a brain, get a soul.
The point is not that America has more freedoms than most other countries in the world, the point is solely that it HAD more freedoms than most other countries. HAD, not HAS.
Love it or leave it, and always from those who love globalism and free trade. How about Love It Or Leave It for the whole world? As in, if we are a world society linked by global commerce, then you should love the whole world or leave it.
DOUG'S RANT : Prediction - doug's words on which we are now all commenting will go down in history as one of those classic passages that followed a major turning point in US and world history.
Scary point that China's money bankrolled the War On Terror so far (as in credit). How better to destroy your competition than to give them the money to make truly stupid mistakes? Unless, of course, that was the plan all along. And truly, it does seem to be shaping up as Truth. Some kind of truth in this age of lies and deception.
The world loved America once for its freedom and its dreams, maybe in a generation or two the world will love America again, but it's up to all of you to start the transformation. The world is behind you.
And don't fall for the divide and conquer tactic now being instilled in America's mind. The world doesn't hate America, it hates BushCo, for the pain and death it has dealt out to the poor and defenceless. Look through the photos of the MASSIVE protests in India and Pakistan. Few burn American flags, most burn effigies of Bush. What does that tell you?
The best political party in America is the Constitution Party. They actually believe in the constitution.
They are located at WWW.CONSTITUTIONPARTY.COM
all these politicians are in dc to serve corporations and not the people, let's come to grips with that. They are NOT interested in what the 'everyday' american thinks or wants for their country.
Yes, grass root movements are the answer but a large majority of people are not very concerned about the patriot act (out of innorance I assume) they're more concerned about what new car they want to get or where they're going to go have dinner tonight.
How do you change this mentality?
I've read all the comments. People have some good ideas, however, at this point I feel there is only one solution. That solution is the one that some people referred to as the Eliminarian Party.
If each and every one of us went to the polls and voted for anyone, as long as they are not now a member of our government, it would send a super strong message to both leading parties to either listen to the people or kiss your career goodbye.
All present leaders in our government would be eliminated and the newly elected officials would know from day one all about people power. This approach seems to me to be much more viable than bloody confrontations with the military, police, etc. and the resulting turmoil of establishing a new way of governing.
Once these newly elected officials are in office they can, and will, change our government back to the form our fore-fathers had in mind when they wrote the Constitution if these newlies know what's good for them.
Elimination Party?
Could that actually work?
Can someone who knows about this stuff explain in a bit more detail what would happen if a huge chunk of Americans actually did this kind of voting at 2006 elections?
If it's a workable idea it could spread like wildfire thanks to the internet and actually become a reality this year.
It is so nice to listen to all of you who are awaking!
The truth is, that this power structure starts with the world wide banking system. The Federal Reserve is a private bank as are all banks in reality world wide. These bankers create all the fiat money they need to carry out their agenda. There is not one currency backed by gold on this planet and that is no accident. Not one government on this planet, Communist, Capitalist , or Socialists alike question the actions of these privet backers. They create trillions of dollars most of which they use to poison our food, water, and air. Create control oriented systems, from cell phone tracking tech. to satellite surveillance, to HARP tech. and many, many, various forms of control that will eventually be used against us, very soon.
If you make all the money in the world without question, How much would it cost you to buy Exxon Mobil, or GE, so on, and so on? If you are the banks that make all the money without question and you control the energy giant Exxon Mobil, obviously energy being the second most important commodity on this earth next to fake money, why do they need to charge us $ 2.50 per gallon for gas, for profit? I don't think so! Do you think the politicians sell us out just for money? Think again, that is what they want you to think. If you take away the financial motive so often used as an excuse for horrendous behaviors, what's left? Nothing but the desire for purr control form a very exclusive small group of individuals.
All war, famines, depressions, illusionary democracies, and communism regimes, religions and basically our entire world history, it all has been micro managed, totally created and orchestrated by these apparent demand like souls in control of this planet. Bush and co are just their puppets as are all leaders, of all countries put in power by a carefully orchestrated covert system of selective installation
of various individuals.
It is all truly a matrix created by them for us. Religion was exclusively created and manipulated to create division in the masses. Look at how they are threatening the Muslims on this planet. Look at what Bush and Israel do in concert to the radical muslim world. Do you think Israel was placed in the middle east by accident 60 years ago? It was purposely allowed to happen with the help of Rothchild for the very world power play they are now creating with the world.
(There is Good News)
The good news is, that we have the ultimate power to change this reality we all see happening, not by force, but by something very simple. (Seeing the truth i speak of) and spreading it to others. Once the truth becomes obvious to most of us, then there entire structure of control will collapse because they will not be able to use elusion for control any longer. Wake Up All. See the light for it will set us free!!!.
Try to look from outside the box and you will see clearly what i am saying. I suggest any one interested in more info about this control, look up David Icke, and start listening to the possibilities that we have been purposely micro manipulated throughout out time to ignore as preposterous.
We have been brilliantly duped into thinking that so many truths so blatantly obvious to all that choose to see them are completely ridiculous. (Example) conspiracy nut, The truth is that this whole power structure is a grand conspiracy designed to control us all, yet they have successfully managed to make any one of us that speak the truth become ridiculed by the whole of society if we dare to speak truth. This in it self is a perfect manipulation. Can you see this truth?
All of this manipulation being executed perfectly by the same structure that has manipulated our educational system, religions, governments, as well as all of our socially acceptable ways of thinking through our entire prefabricated and predetermined past and present history time lines.
These truths i speak of will become apparent as time continues, ''You all will see'' if you look.
Peace to all.....
What shocks me is that you think that this country/world is being run by a president or a party at all. Democrat or Republican these are all just front men. We in the USA are occupied by a worldwide criminal/fascist organization.
There is a protest in DC and at other locations worlwide on March 20th. This will serve as a test to see what 'they' plan to do if "we the pissed off" finally decide to put our collective shoulders to the wheel. It is time to test the waters. There are a lot of events planned worldwide, so go to a protest in your area if you can't get to DC.
So, how many will be protesting on March 20th and how many will be home pretending to be pissed off?
This is going to take serious numbers to work, if it can still work at all. My guess is that this is only the beginning, or the end... Your choice. It is going to be an interesting summer.
http://www.politicalcooperative.org/data/tiki-read_article.php?articleId=10
This article said it like it should be saying; loved the exact words that I would have used!
I was going to vote in "KHALEEFORNYA" against gov terminater and for all democrats,but now it looks like my choices are going to be very selective,but it feels hopeless to think that my precise vote matters,because there too many voters out there who are even less informed than I am,and I barely know everyone I would vote for....selectivly.
I would like to thank Sen. Ron Wyden, this is a "cherished victory to be savored"...I now have a new interest in who my senators are, thanks Mr. Wyden.
YOUR FINISHED...NOW SIT BACK AND WATCH THE FINAL SCENES AND REMEMBER YOUR GOD
There is a way to still vote and make a difference in spite of manipulated tallies. WRITE IN YOUR CANDIDATE! Those votes are tallied seperately. The best way to make a statement of discontent that will be on the record is to write in a candidate.
In my district, there are always more registered voters that did not vote than total voters in elections. Imagine if every one of those discontent non-voters wrote in a candidate, ANY candidate (even their neighbor). It would send a HUGE message, because the total number of write-ins would greatly exceed votes for party candidates.
For our last governor's election, I wrote in an independent candidate. He did not win, and my district had a total of ONE write in. I'm on the map! One * one million = CHANGE.
Would you get the candidate you wrote in? Possibly not, but you would in effect be voting AGAINST the other parties. This is an answer for all the ninnies that say "oh I voted (or won't vote) for the lesser of two evils". SO DON'T!
Urge everyone who gives you lame excuses for not voting to go out and write in who you want. It doesn't matter who! Because not voting is in effect a vote for the winner.
What else can you do? Remember the recall in California. Circle petitions to create referenda and show them you KNOW the power is in your hands!
Also, JURY NULLIFICATION!!!! This is the last check and balance the people have. The thugs can arrest, charge and try, but the people must convict. If you don't approve of a law, it is your POWER AND DUTY TO NOT CONVICT THAT LAW!! This is how Prohibition was repealed.
NOW GO GET 'EM!!!
-Pat Riot
Right on....Now what are we going to do about "them"?
The problem is education. Most americans don't
have a clue what the Patriot Act is. Those Dem's
that voted for it are just following their
constituency. This is too bad. Then again, most
Americans don't know what terrorism is either -
Home invasion, mugging, ID
theft, Police brutality, wife
beating, child abuse, high
health costs,illegal
immigrants comming in and
doing crime to survive, etc,
etc. No, they are just bomboozled by the chant of the Republican
machine. Yes they feel safe knowing that Bush is
keeping someone from blowing up a building
somewhere. When has there been a suicide bombing
in the USA?
In response to John Drake. I'm curious to see if V for Vendetta actually pulls off anything good. It looks that way, but you never know with our Hollywood that refuses to inspire anything in our little craniums.
How about we just stick to books--1984, Fahrenheit, The Crucible, etc. This not-so-simple task of chopping down the G-Men all starts with some real learning and critical thinking. Our school systems go cock-eyed and crazy when they hear about any such thing. One of my favorite science fiction depictions is Kurt Vonneguts in Slapstick, or even in some of his Timequake.
Evil Magicians
http://foundersamerica86.blogspot.com/
Every one of those traitors, manipulators and tyrants took an oath to uphold the constitution and freedom. Not the watered down milquetoste freedom that their stacked court of black-robed mercenaries rubber stamps, but REAL freedom.
That oath is a contract. A very strong, very important, binding verbal contract to which they have sworn.
They have violated that contract in the hidden names of which ever oligarchies and corporatists they hold true allegiance to. They abandoned us a long time ago; both sides of the aisle.
An examination of the events leading up to and following 9/11 clearly reveals that the very agencies who acted with the greatest and criminal levels of negligence are teh very agencies that scored enhanced powers and funding.... so that the next time they allow the country to take a hit, they can do it in REALLY nice suits, and even shinier misused fire-power, with even better intelligence gathering with which they'll likely, once again, do nothing of any real significance!!
And they won't leave their disgraced offices on their own, despite having dishonored themselves, the Founders, and this nation.
It is nearing time to stop being patronized by the scum-suckers, to stop trying to talk with manipulative sociopaths who have computers write and sign shallow and insincere letters for them, feigning concern that they're truly incapable of.
It is time to announce that they no longer represent us in ANY way.
It's time to rock 'n' roll!! Ready on the Left? ready on the Right?
Death to the corporatist fascists and weak-kneed oligarchs. May they choke to death on their caviar.
Two cheeks of the same evil a$$.
How many that posted here have payed tribute to the evil a$$, voluntarily, under the guise of paying your "fair share"?
If you are so afraid of the evil a$$ that you part with the fruits of your labor and time, voluntarily, you are helping pay for your own destruction.
Voting in a corrupt system, is a vote for the very same corrupt system.
Voting for a corrupt system is NOT the solution.
Cease, voluntarily, giving funds to the evil a$$ and make a difference.
Make them steal your earnings, don't just simply hand it over out of fear.
Millions are already doing it.
Will you stand with millions already just saying no to the two cheeks of the same evil a$$?
Or will you continue to help pay for your own demise out of fear and ignorance?
People think the nazis are taking over, so let's vote for them. If you can't beat 'em join 'em.
WWW.AMERICANNAZIPARTY.COM
Why wait we are all doomed anyway
It has finally been admitted that there are, at least, l0 million Americans under wire survellence. The number is growing daily. Don't you think at least half of Washington DC can be counted in that number. How many in Congress have things to hide, it's called black-mail. And that could affect both parties. That's the way it starts, honey, that's the way it starts.
Schlag Zeile
Ermaechtigungs Gesetz von 1936 auch in Amerika
Hitler hat gesiegt!
Nun Meine Freunde gibt es keine Neuwahlen
Hummel Hummel Mors Mors
From a PATRIOT of Norway to PATRIOT'S of America.
It's really saddening to see Americans - true PATRIOTS of their country, real people with big HEARTS and MINDS, struggle in this difficult times!
I'm teary-eyed afraid and angry like a dog from hell, because I see my little country (Norway) going down the drain too. Just a couple of years left now... The Scum of The Earth are attacking us all!
You real PATRIOTS of America, should know that PATRIOTS "over the pond" are standing shoulder to shoulder with you. You are NOT forgotten or left alone - just remember that! If a certain unfortunate situation does occure, that PATRIOTS have to stand up, I'll be there and fight for our common task, if you invite me (us).
Like you, I cannot live in a "grid" like this! WE are humans of flesh and blood, with a spirit that is born FREE, and FREEDOM we deserve!
Rune
Those of you talking about the Democrats being cowards need only cast a glance towards the political system in the UK, where our supposedly centrist Labour party government have been bent over double while the neo-cons shaft them, and have allowed legislation similar to the Patriot Act to go through parliament recently. Luckily for us, our 'Supreme Court', the House of Lords, is traditionally conservative and libertarian in the truest sense of the words, whilst the opposition is very much a Republican party out of power, so some of the more extreme aspects of the bill didn't go through. But from a traditionally socialist party, it's pretty shocking that they've managed to get away with reducing our freedom without much outcry from the public.
It seems to me that the key to all of this is education. Ill-educated people do not seem to question things. They will readily swallow the hype and the propaganda that politicians will dish out in their attempts to mask the real issues, because they don't know what the politicians actually stand for, or they are so disillusioned with politics that they simply don't care and don't vote. Media outlets don't help matters by providing a total distraction from the things that really matter, preferring to go on about the disgruntled people of wherever about the unsightly wind farms or other such provincial nonsense, or as you have in the US, things like abortion and gay marriage. All political discourse seems to get reduced to the level of school playground "he said" "she said" tittle tattle, and much of it completely incomprehensible to the layman. It's no wonder we're sleepwalking into fascism.
UK education is about to become corporate sponsored, like much US Public Education is, to the horror and dismay of many in the education sector. It seems to be well established that the corporatisation of schools creates good little consumers who never question anything, and why should they? After all, if Microsoft sponsored their computer lab, they must be good guys, right?
As has been demonstrated through the complete apathy of people in the US and the UK about their future in not preventing the Patriot act et al, and not stopping the Iraq war, it seems more people seem to care about who wins Pop Idol or Big Brother than care about their own futures, and something has to change, otherwise western democracy is doomed to become another relic of a bygone age. We in the US and UK are already tarred with the same brush as Israel. We are the 3 most despised nations on earth.
The only way this can change is if a whole movement of people actively reject the tenets of the two party system and provide a grass roots movement of people who can not only help to change the politics of the US, but provide people with the tools needed to spread and educate people to question their reality. Sure, the eavesdropping and all this Fifth Column crap makes life more difficult, but when the alternative is life in a KBR assembled gulag, surely its worth making an effort for.
I'm kinda pissed at a lot of these comments above.... 'get the 90% middle and skip the left loonlies right wingnuts.... blah blah blah.
What about people like me who are conservative about some things, leftist about some, liberal about many, socialist about a bunch, libertarian too and anarchist. Hate the neocons and the lock-step repukes. Hate the corporatist dems. And I'm tired of the farce of a war on terra. And if you think 9/11 was a bunch of A-rabs with box cutters you're a denso who is too stoopid to even look at the empirical evidence.
So you better get on the stick cause the camps are being build for you *right now*. And bulding a party and voting for some pissant is gonna be much much too late. Indeed, it is probably too late right now. So all you typists out there had better start thinkin about what you're gonna actually do. And 'they' will come for you. 'They' *know* who you are. Every site you visit leaves your little id behind. Don't ask for whom the camps are built.... they are built for thee......
Many of those 10 who opposed the Patriot Act did so for their own political viability. Anything Bush is for, e.g. mom, apple pie and Chevrolet they would oppose. They are no more concerned with the Constitution than Brezhnev or Mao. Constitutionalists are the only way to go, but it's not practical, now. Throwing the Republicans out is real smart, Doug. Let me introduce you to Charlie Wrangle, new Chairman of the House Ways and Means Committee. John Conyers, Maxine Watters, John Dingell, Henry Waxman, and the rest of the Socialist bastard will be running every Committee in the House. Nancy Pelosi, Speaker of the House, could not win an election for dog-catcher anywhere in the U.S. except San Francico. You can't just throw out the republicans, you have to throw them all out and start over. What we really need is a constitutional Convention. King George is not Bush, it is the entire federal government. 80% of what they do in Washngton, D.C. is illegal. There is no Constitutional authorithy for the Dept of Education, Agriculture, Health and Human Services, Commerce, and others. Your alphabet agencies have no legitimate authority either.
Re. Dr RW,
There is no left or right. There are neo-con totalitarians, and socialist totalitarians, and then there are the persons who believe in freedom and the concept of 'living and letting live.'
Serving freedom and humane justice or serving oligarchies of one shape, size, or color are the two basic choices. I, for one, made my choice a long time ago.
Yes, the camps are being built right now, as you say. And yes, it is on the horizon that dissidents and those who dispute the canned and false reality presented by the neo-con Masters may be nudged into them under force at some point in the future.... beyond those already being arbitrarily held, I might add.
But unlike those Jews and others who found themselves walking up the ramps into the cattle cars, hoping desperately that 'all can still work out somehow,' there are many here in this country, and abroad as well, who will not let themselves be taken that far.
My life, my property, my family, my freedom, and all that which is sovereign about my/our lives, stands on higher ground than that which is occupied by the corporatist criminals pretending to be in charge. And for me, those things, people, principles, etc. are, no doubt whatsoever, worth sacrificing for.
We are all going to feed the worms one day; the only significant question is whether we will head that direction standing tall, knowing what we live for, and being unapologetic to the fascisti, or if we will go licking boots, squirming, crying, whimpering, wondering where our cappucino went, and begging permission from the pigs that we might be permitted to run our own affairs.
Like yourself, I fit into many political 'categories' in my own personal beliefs. But to those who would take that which is not justly their's, I say this, in quoting Patrick Henry,"As to what (others) may choose, I know not. But as for me, give me liberty, or give me death."
PH's address was a portion of a debate that he engaged in that's titled now as "We Must Fight." It is a moving three pages of double-spaced type, and could just as easily be the product of any debate about the USA PA or totalitarianism in any living room in Amerikkka today.
There have always been those who comforted themselves by eclipsing what is right in front of them. It's a natural part of teh human psyche for some.
The reassuring part of history is that those are also the apathetic ones who are likely to stay as complacent when this mess gets a proper straightening out, as they were in the ramping up to it. Give 'em another television remote, another bag of Dorritos, another six-pack of Budweiser, a new pair of Calvin kleins, and a football game to watch, and tell them to stay outa' the way..... They may, after all, provide some decent cover.... ;^>)
"To Every Season.. Turn Turn Turn"
Well if anybody reads down this far....
Okay, so we all feel the way you do!
NOW WHAT?!!!
Most of the candidates are gutless traitors;we now lost the vote to electronic voting machines;no one will take up arms to kick their asses out and put them in jail where they belong; the military will not take them out..SO NOW WHAT?
If we do not GET ORGANIZED NOW (hint..hint.) it will be extremely difficult to get this war won!
I do not believe that it will ever be too late, it will just be more difficult because they will be 'dug in' (no pun intended).
So get your meetings going locally folks or else the facists will have you in te klink before you can say, "what the he....."
If you want to blame somethung, BLAME CAPITALISM. You really can't expect our politicians to behave any better than the corporate lowlife that sponsor them. And NO-ONE has the guts, it seems, to tell the public ANYTHING that will hurt public confidence in the white frat-boy speculating class that runs this country.
Make do with less?? No way. The "Dow" would never approve. Pay workers a "living wage"?? Why would we do that when we can enslave China to do our work for us?? Stand up to Israel?? Not a chance. There's too much money involved to risk doing what's morally right. (but not profitable) Get a "real" job providing a useful service to society?? Nah, that's too much WORK. Let's all PLAY THE MARKET instead. That's lots more fun.
Rob Scott at March 4, 2006 04:04 PM
"And 'they' will come for you. 'They' *know* who you are. Every site you visit leaves your little id behind. Don't ask for whom the camps are built.... they are built for thee......"
And YOU are sure, that you are not one of "thee"? Well, ugly things will probably come in your way, too. Any reason to think that you will be spared?
I'm not afraid! They can kill me "one billion" times if they like - torture my body to the unrecognizable, but they cannot take my spirit away.
I called both Feinsteins and Boxers offices to let them know this was the final strw. I have supported them over the yeI called both Feinstein's and Boxers offices to let them know this was the final straw. I have supported them over the years however this was an outright betrayal of the American people.
I knew Feinstein was at heart a Republican (like "Lie"berman) but I really expected more from Boxer. Now not only have I realized that the Democrats have abandoned us for the most part the American people to not have representation in Washington.
In other words...we have lost our country to corporate unchecked greed and government complicity. We have to wake up to the fact that we have a New Fascist State and that our liberties will be eroded away each day that passes.rs however this was an outright betrayal of the American people.
I knew Feinsten was at heart a Republican but I really expected more from Boxer. Now not only have I realized that the Democrats have abandoned us for the most part the American people to not have representation in Washington.
In other words....we have lost our country to corporate unchecked greed and government complicity. We have to wake up to the fact that we have a New Fascit State and that our liberties will be eroded away each day that passes.
this is my first post on The Rant, even though I have been visiting this site often.
Dems and Republicans are two peas in a pod.
The Arabic translation of that saying is "two asses in one underwear".
Guys, I am not surprised, especially in the Senate; they are the old guard, the leadership.
Please read the article I supplied the URL to.
It is an article I wrote that was published by Media Monitor.
The title is: "The negotiated exit strategy from Iraq; at what cost?"
It uncovers how Howard Dean tried to pull the rug from under Bush by proposing his "Strategic Redeployment" which is no different from the policy Bush is implementing in secret.
The article might change your perspective a bit, or in the least, divert your outrage in a more constructive direction.
The Patriot Act might cover a nice stack of paper and must be painful to stuff down someone's throat but what effect would it have on someone who tells you its raining when piss is all over his face.
http://canada.mediamonitors.net/content/view/full/23996
above is the URL for the article "The negotiated exit strategy from Iraq.
If you want to email me, I can be reached through www.theunaol.com
also, in this post my name is properly linked to my email.
Sorry about that guys.
I'm a big Harry Belafonte fan!
Some have asked, "so what can we do about it?" Probably only small things. You can join the "Anti-incumbent party", continue to try the letter-writing, email, call, your reps. That won't accomplish much directly but the important thing is that you stay involved and connected to other like minds. Things have evolved beyond what the little people can turn around. It will take a military coup, a financial meltdown, a significant emotional experience to the fabric of this countries stability. Then opportunity will be at the best you can expect. In other words, things will have to get much worse before they will be ready to get much better.
I don't know why you are surprised at the dem's betraying you again. This is the second time around. Rep Murtha called for an end to bush's lying, criminal war in Iraq & the dems stuck him in the back too & joined with continuing bush's unholy crusade thru the middle east. The dems & repubs have been playing good cop/bad cop with you. Both are rotten & wicked to the core & reaping huge monetary rewards for their support of the war. The only hope is to back 3rd parties in the coming elections, but I truly don't hold out to much hope for things to change. They have covered all the bases this time around. And none of them are truly christians, but tares.
I've just sent a rather scathing email to "my" Senator in D.C. (Feinstein) informing her that she no longer has my vote. I've been urging everyone I know to do likewise. What I keep getting confronted with, however, is the all pervasive "lesser of two evils" notion of "what would be better? Voting republican"? I said to vote independant until they get the message. These so-called democrats should be ashamed of themselves but I'm not likely to see any evidence of that in my lifetime.
Wow!
I've read the article and all comments up to now. I even checked out the Constitution Party website. Here's the bottom line on the Constitution Party,
from their website under "About Us":
"The Constitution Party is the only party which is completely pro-life, pro-gun, pro-American sovereignty and independence, and in favor of a strong national defense. It is also the only party that is anti-globalist, anti-free trade, anti-deindustrialization, and anti-unchecked immigration. We also oppose special rights for homosexuals, the constantly increasing expansion of unlawful police laws,and both foreign aid and military interventionism."
Be careful what you wish for...
We need a party that can ignore the petty emotional hot button issues, e.g. pro-life, special rights for homosexuals", which gets everybody so upset they vote against their own best interests based on a single issue.
The focus of a new party needs to be specifically a restoration of our Constitution Rights. If you can avoid the hot buttons, you can reign in a lot of disaffected Americans.
To form a new party, let's create a website so those who agree can donate $2.00 or so to fund the new party. Of course, you could donate more. We could also all use USPS money orders so as not to be tracked. We don't want our names being given to the NSA upon request and without court orders!
I don't have the knowledge to build a site, but someone out there does.
We will need candidates! Who wants to be President, VP or a congress person who will not sell our country out to ANY bidder (I agree that the current administration & congress don't hold out for the highest bidder)?
We also need candidates for all state and local offices.
If you are worried about being hauled off to one of the new "camps", we can move into stealth mode and out of the way of those who would "accident" us. This would entail setting up groups of no more than 3 need to meet in their hometown areas. These are called "cells". Then one of the three from each cell form another cell of three - never knowing the others. Now we have nine people, six new and 3 original, and so on. Kinda of like a Ponzi scheme!
My first nomination for pres would be Doug Thompson - but he may well decline!
We must do something now - or all will be lost.
Informational question: Doug, you mentioned additional surveillance powers. I'm interested in a summary of what's in the bill compared to what was in the original. Where can I find that?
CK writes:
Informational question: Doug, you mentioned additional surveillance powers. I'm interested in a summary of what's in the bill compared to what was in the original. Where can I find that?
CK:
These are prime areas of concern for the Patriot Act extension as passed by the Senate:
* Government use of National Security Letters and secret court orders under section 215 to obtain a wide array of private, confidential records – including medical, financial, library and bookstore and gun purchase records – with no evidence linking those records to a suspected terrorist or spy.
* Those records demands contain an automatic and potentially permanent gag order, and the right to challenge the gag order is made virtually illusory by the bill’s requirement that a court accept the government’s “national security” certification supporting a gag order as “conclusive.”
* Secret physical searches of homes and offices are available in any federal case under a vague standard, and notice can be delayed for weeks, months or even longer. The Justice Department admits that at least 88% of such searches actually had nothing to do with terrorism.
* Roving wiretaps lack the requirement to name a target or a facility being monitored and without the safeguard that government agents verify that a suspect is actually using the facility before eavesdropping on private conversations.
* The bill contains many other provisions, unrelated to the Patriot Act, that harm civil liberties – for example, it expands the Secret Service’s power to impose “exclusion zones” to apply to non-Pesidential events, and it increases fines and criminal penalties the Treasury Department has used to coerce non-profits and other businesses into checking employees against flawed government lists.
You can read the act at the Library of Congress web site and read more about the abuses on the ACLU site.
Doug
Me in a bad mood: It's all going to hell in a handbasket and there is nothing I can do!
Me in a good mood: 270,000,000 people (excluding the 1% elite class) descend on Washington DC and take back our country. July 4th, 2006.
Ron Paul, a house representative of Texax, has not yet voted. Only the Senate, not the House of Representatives have passed the UN-Patriot Act.
Sorry - I can't type this late at night! Rep. Paul is from Texas, not Texax!
Ron Paul, a house representative of Texas, has not yet voted. Only the Senate, not the House of Representatives have passed the UN-Patriot Act.
I think that a July 4, 2006 'gathering' in D.C. is a hell of an idea. All I can toss from the sub-arctic are words. Throwing some Senators out of their leather-topped-desk offices, paid for by US, is more of a pleasing image, frankly.
Time for a re-enactment I think. Only this time it should start on the Mall, and work its way toward the Hill and Pa. Ave.
That real estate might hold some mighty fine resale value. Pay off some of Shrub's outrageous national debt!
Even if 1% of this country (2.7 million angry people) could be called upon to effectively rally heavily upon that den of iniquity, the cowardly 'leaders' would be standing in line at the restrooms from staining their lilly white drawers.
What do you suppose the cowards would do with 2.7 million on their lawns? Call in a nape strike? Doubtful.
And the lethargic masses probably wouldn't intervene unless FOX news told 'em to! Even then they'd have to check their palm pilots first, and maybe cancel a dinner date!
I'm in! Assuming that I can still fly in this Stalin-esque wasteland of a country!
Anybody else? "It's later than it seems."
I enjoy a good rant as much as the next, especially when it opposes the President and his lackies, but what are angry, confused patriots like ourselves going to do now? The hard truth: nothing. Our protests are unnoticed and unheard. Every logical argument for impeachment lacks the politcial and financial backing to make it stick. Too many people are getting rich off of this administration to take a stand againist it.
Maybe taking up arms againist our country is the only way, but I really don't want it to come to that. The reality is that I will continue to shout and decry this administration with the hope that the next candidate won't wipe his/her ass with the constitution.
Yeah! Fight fire with fire! Ram it down their throat! Violence....that's the answer!
I thought this columnist was a little more balanced than that up until now. Now you just sound like another "angry hippy". What an oxymoron.
This country is about to be enlightened. We are in a real danger of creating a new type of extremist though. We need people to balance this out by setting a peaceful example. I like the way wayne madsen does things over at www.waynemadsen.com He's no fan of the neo-cons (that's what he calls them, I prefer "straight up old school nazis"), but he uses "tact" and his point comes across better that way.
This approach of showing anger to bring about peace makes about as mush sense as invading another country to bring them freedom. There are people of both parties that we need fighting for us. Just because there are a lot of "bad apples" on both sides, there's no reason to believe that a lot of them aren't sincere in what they believe. They can't all be against us. It would be pretty obvious if they were.
It takes a special quality to appeal to people enough to change how they think about things. Anger is not that quality.
Doh! That's www.waynemadsenreport.com
Great site. Well balanced approach. Doesn't the world have enough "extremist"?
When will Americans quit making excuses for apologist economists wants over security and truthful Constitutionality By law.
If you donot believe you live in a free country. You have a good right to believe this.
Look at article 4 on what International treaty law and Us Constitutional law says about Gold fringed Flags. Then walk into your county court house and look at the Flag in the corner of the room. It is a Fotreign flag representing, "color of law" or Admiralty jurisdiction of Law of the seas or if you will. Roman Civil law. Which is NOT The Common Law our original US Constitution was based upon. We here in America are already living under tyranny. And have been for a long time.
NO you say? I ask you then? What do You own? Guess what? Nothing ! You Own NOTHING. YOU work for NOTHING but to pay Taxes. The state can take your lifes work from you tomorrow if it feels like it, by law. That's Unconstitutional law. This is not freedom. Private property is what Freedom & Liberty were based on.
But that's all gone now isn't? So? What's Left? I'll tell............A life of long hard work for Nothing. Let freedom ring? Hah!
There are 120 million gun owners in this country, if only 1/3 stand up, thats a 40 million man army. Look what a group of 1 to2 hundred thousand men in Iraq can do to a well trained and armed military. We the People have more power to take this county back than most of you think.
Since when does peace equal justice??
Struggle has been part of justice, especially when contending with uber power, since time can be remembered. Wishing it to be sunny doesn't make the rain stop or the clouds clear. Wishing for sociopathic murdering oligarchs to realize their own humanity's oneness with yours or mine doesn't make them good leaders or baby-sitters either.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.... I'm sure at this point that if we continue to cry our tears of utter loss, and speak softly and meaningfully to those who have rigged the elections, indefinitely interned uncharged persons, murdered thousands, and trashed the constitution(s), they'll simply realize the error of their ways, decide to clean up their karma, and turn the country over to sane people!! Uh huh. It's simply a matter of talking to them nicely!! Shiiiiit!
I'll reserve a special spot on the sidelines for those with prayer beads when this thing starts to get set straight. But I have to warn you, the thesaurus, the prayer beads, and all the best diplomacy make for poor armament when dealing with napoleonic sociopaths who intend to hang onto the top of the totem pole at any costs.
But hey, where would we be without optimists? If nothing else, in times like this, they provide good humor. And God knows we could use some.
Vote Libertarian, the only party you can donate to and expect nothing in return.
Republicans = Democrats = Socialists = Fascists
What Is Any one going to do? I see lots of rants about political action. Do you think they haven't consider that? Has it gone beyond the mass protest stage? The level of mass treason and unaccountability has moved from norm to excessive and now into the absurd. They are clearly insane. What will we do? Probably nothing until after the next Rogue Government Homeland/MI#/Mossad/Illuminati/etc sponsored inside attack occurs(no doubt one to really make you eyes water). Then Martial Law. Then the round ups will occur with many patriots, able to do so, going down in neighborhood shootouts with the "Freedom Fighters" while their neighbors draw their shades and say it's about time. Many will not be able to retaliate, as they'll be rounded up at work (I'm not going in that year, I'll be sick). This is the way the cowards in the "NEW" Blue Global police force(Military)will strike. Then if we're lucky AmeriKans will get tired of seeing their neighbors disappear as more and more of "even the good" ones will, then it will get interesting and we'll see if we really do live in the land of the free. Slaves choose to be slaves, with few exceptions. I personally, will be in the first group, freedom isn't fun any more. "Freedom" is usually built on piles of dead bodies, sometimes even the real thing for a while. Or we could all just give up our "Freedom" so those bad Mussys will leave us alone and buy a big screen TV at the one China*Mart Communist Commissary. If you still have your shopping "privileges" They hate freedom , really they do. Almost as much as their leaders in the Red House and their corporate elite sponsors. PS: Off*Star will keep you from starting you car in the neighborhood lock downs so you can't runaway or ram the tank at the head of the block while the others help the children escape. That RFID in you tires right now or maybe your cloths will help track you evil freedom hating terrorist down. Then its hot sex and torture from the New Few And The Proud at New X-Ray.
The problem with 3rd party candidates is that the media hates them with a vengance. Here in Minnesota, Jesse Ventura was regularly and irrationally trashed by our "media," if you can call what little they do as being communications. When an even better candidate, Tim Penny, was offered by the Independent Party as a candidate for Senator, the local media locked him completely out. Even public television and public radio ignored this experienced, well funded, well supported candidate.
The media makes a lot of money from the two party system. They will fight campaign reform with a vengance, since it always involves taking money from the "free market" that they own so completely and moving it into public venues. Ventura spoke eloquently and often about the two party media bias and he's worth noticing for many reasons.
Personally, I quit supporting, in any way, local media as a protest against their monopoly and political behavior. We have one sort-of-newspaper, City Pages, that I read and whose advertisers I support. The other two papers and our television stations are useless.
I was reffering to intelligent protest. Something we haven't seen a lot of lately. Cindy Sheehan is cool. I like her approach. I'm not saying to just cross your fingers, close your eyes, and pray for peace. I'm talking about having some unique ideas and not fighting hatred with hatred. When you start referring to our leaders as Scum sucking traitors to their country, you're only going to be preaching to the choir. No one else is going to read it. No one who needs to have their eyes opened will see anything more than a new type of extremist.
Maybe I'm just too young to know what I'm talking about, but hasn't the facist police state been coming just about as long as Jesus? Yes the republicans and the democrats are all being pulled by the same strings, but we've known that for a long time. The first party outside of those two was called the Anti-Mason party. Maybe that's what we need today. Sounds better than a 3rd party that just hates everybody. I'd like to believe our intelligence has evolved passed using violence to bring peace.
How about looking at your own life and seeing how you personally can stop supporting the war machine? It's not going to be by making a new one.
Violence is not the answer. Check out www.waynemadsenreport.com
This guy is getting things done!
I think Doug is fighting fire with fire, this administration is one of the most violent and corrupt, I have seen.
Hey Doug,
We the people have no one to blame but our slow, apathetic, ignorant , dumbness selves for allowing the government to run wild and now right out of control.
Democrat, Republican, it makes not the slightest bit of difference none of them discriminate, either side of the aisle they will screw us every time.
Who lobby's the fat Washington politicians for Joe Dirt public, not a figgen sole, the only lobbying going on cost big bucks and Joe Dirt Public has no money after uncle IRS fuck you takes all he can to pay for all of the pork the politicians want and everything else on top of it.
You know what a politicians favorite two expressions are ?
#1. BEND OVER SUCKER.
#2. I DIDN'T DO IT.
Americans need a national strike. Let it begin this 4th of July.
We MUST stop feeding into this bloodsucking machine that's doing nothing but bleeding us all dry.
I guess the truth does hurt. The people of this country have been sold out and we are under European control of the banksters.
Great Post
If you think that it's totally about who the Amerikkkan People have allowed themselves to vote for in the past (that grand choice between spam and braunschwagger for dinner, when what you really wanted was prime rib, but it wasn't on the menu...)then there's some things that you're perhaps not taking into account.
Remember Stalin's quote about 'those who count the votes deciding everything.'
Take Alaska for example; rigth now, from the '04 election, there seems to be a discrepency of about 100,000+ votes that shouldn't exist according to conventional wisdom. (That's a significant number of questionable ballots in a state of only 650,000 people)
No one knows if they're legit or not. And the Repugniks control the Office of (S)elections.
(I'll count to three while you take a guess at whose elctronic voting machines we've been using. It starts with the same letter that is one above a failing grade....)
And yes, most of our mainstream Dems are typically worthless up here too, with a handful of real, dignified, and deserving-of-support exceptions.
On initial request by the Dem Party, the Office of (S)elections told them that the data was private property belonging to that 'D' company. After that 'D' co. said that they wouldn't object to releasing that data (having already been run out of the Carolinas, BTW), the Repugnik's Office of (S)elections tentatively agreed to release files. Then they delayed, and finally refused, forcing the Demopublican Party to consider whether they'd sue to get them.
The Repugniks cited 'security' as the reason not to release those elctronic files (copies, to be exact). The only 'security issue' that I can conjure is that there might be some legitimate lynchings on main street if it's ever found, in a concrete and provable manner, that someone truly blatantly rigged a vote.
So, is the data being manipulated by a skilled programmer while we wait to see if the Demopublicans will take legal action?? Who knows?
And to those who downplay the viability of domestic revolt, do some historical research. Find the last time that a large conventional military force outright defeated a determined and sizable guerilla element anywhere in this world's history, without decimating the entire population in the process, and thus losing support and position overall in the end.
Good luck in your research, as I'm not aware of any. The Jews of Warsaw and their 'butterknife brigades who effectively fought tanks with moltovs and bearing grease?' The Afghani Freedom Fighters, circa 1979-1980, before their Uncles at the CIA were assisting with weapons exchanges for interesting barter materials over the Khyber Pass into Pakistan?? When they were literally making hand-made .303s in the mountains on portable forges, and using horse-back riders to sucker Soviet gun ships into canyons, only to plummet by cables being stretched by who-knows-who? Ask the French about Algiers and Dien Bien Phu. Ask the Soviets about Tora Bora. Ask the Brits about Concord. BAD memories.
And yes, the struggle against those who find convenience in fascism goes back to before Christ; but that struggle and facism were not always at the top of the totem of life. Freedom's struggle with fascism is cyclical. It has gone 'round and 'round like the Earth and the Sun. And sometimes freedom holds the reigns, and sometimes the fascists have a period of false triumph. It's been the unfortunate but necessary struggle against control freaks and fascists and socialist totalitarians since time began.
And if your self-determination and family's dignity and freedom is worth it to you, then join in. And if not, sit and watch. But the cycle will continue.
And no fascist will ever be served coffee at my home, though they may well be served something else! And don't ever forget that 'we' OWN the Whitehouse, and Capit'A'l Hill, and the mall, and that whole chunk of property currently inhabited by dishonest parasites. It was OUR money that built and maintained that place for these oligarchs.
Long live real freedom! Though this time we may have to take it back from those who have, once again, stolen it. Is it worth it to you? It is to me and mine. That much I'm certain of.
Somebody should employ shrubs' doctrine of "preemptive strike" and take him and ALL of these TRAITORS out!!!!
Disgusting rhetoric diminishes the message. If you want your thoughts to be taken seriously, write civily. I had read your earlier insider stories on the likelihood of Bush's possible mental instability and thought them credible and interesting. This rant makes me wonder if the author of those stories is entirely credible.
I'd love to vote them out of office from the sleaziest to the go-along to get along ones who compromise the Constitution.
the only way to do this is with the vote. If any change is to come it is to guard the sacredness of the vote by ensuring e-voting is fraud free.
Use pencil and paper, to cast your ballot. Its worked well for the first 300 years. So what if it takes a few days to count.
Disgusting rhetoric? Write civily? Oh, did we hurt your ears? You poor baby! I'm sorry! Are country is only on the edge of hell(sorry, more of that disgusting rhetoric) and your "upset" because we use bad, bad words!Look away now because THIS is NOT a FUCKING GAME PEOPLE! Get guns and lots of ammo! Storable foods, water, GOLD and SILVER! NOW!!!!!You know what really hurts me deep down is knowing that as I FIGHT this NWO trash I will also have to defend myself and my family from sheeple like these people, who did NOT prepare and TRY to take from me and mine because there roaming the streets hungery willing to kill me and mine just to eat! DAWN of the DEAD! I WISH it were that easy! LAUGH it up!Your days are numbered.
The other day in the Post Office, I was waiting in line with the other Americans in this big American media city, self-obsessed and in dreamland.
A older man, dignified, with weathered face, suit that was almost Arab/or Third World, and with a ver intent and serious expression on his face was clutching a passport. I falshed on that he was getting it reknewed.
When I came home and was reading news, I realized he was from Afghanistan, and had a feeling that he'd escaped from the war there. Then I kept flashing on his face, it was like he could see a nightmare, and he wanted to get out.
he clutched that passport like it was gold, and it occured to me he probably know first-hand what
is possible.
Time to up-date the pasport.
Right on target and well stated DAMAGE INC. These pathetic stupid sheeple don't get it at all that the time for being civil and peaceful methods are long over!!!!!! It won't be long until those facist Nazi Pigs will get their unlawful, unconstitutional "laws" passed to force all Amerikans to surrender their guns and any other type of weapons they might possess. There will be PLENTY of dumb, stupid sheeple who will do just exactly that, either out of sheer stupidity, or just plain cowardince. As for the rest of us who refuse, lie, and hide our weapons from the house to house break in's, like what happened in New Orleans, it will be blood in the streets!!!!!!!!
Count on it.
Unfortunately for us and for the reputation of the country's founders, the typical response of gun owners will be to support the government. I rarely see radical NRA members give a flying damn about civil rights, human rights, free press and speech, unusual punishments, freedom from religion, or any other fundamental Constitutional freedom. If gun owners "take to the streets," it will be to use violence to quell a meaningful protest or revolution.
Both the Waco and Ruby Ridge wackos were religous nut cases who thought our government wasn't nutty enough. Fighting Islamic conservative crazies with Christer conservative crazies is stupid. We lose everywhere. When was the last time you saw firefighters fight fire with fire?
Doug,
Until you realize we haven't been under constitutional government since 1871, you are going to continue to explode, ineffectually.
The Act of 1871 incorporate the US government and from that date, forward, we have been under Merchants Law (Admiralty Law). That is why people are loosing their asses. they haven't a clue what jurisdiction they are in when drug into court.
No matter the crime, they are actually being tried for breach of contract. Our government, at all levels, is up to their neck in this fraud of constructive contracts.
Get the people stirred up about that massive fraud and you can start the count-down to a White House launce.
Thank You Mr. Thompson for putting it in words. I'm going to send a copy of your article to both my (Illinois) Sadsacks. I can't believe they just all laid down like this for Bush to wipe his feet on them. But why should I be surprised when that is all they have ever done before? I guess I really expected more from Durbin and Obama. Foolish me.
It's fun to see someone so surprised that democrats don't oppose republicans. Not long ago I also pinned some hope for improvement by getting rid of republicans. But now it's clear that almost all in government are ignorant, cowardly, or both. Even the rest of us, especially democrats and republicans, are still supporting the corrupted mainstream view of the world by paying attention to it. Withdraw your support, unplug your TV, vote with your money, grow your own food, go to www.solari.com
I hear this all the time "OHHHHH if only the Democrats where in office we'd be so fine and all this going on today would not be going on OHHHHHHHHHHH we got to get out and vote"
James
So when do the 'libertarians' start to buy .50 calibre rifles? It's been five years of talk and demonstrations in 'free speech zones'. Your bill of rights and constitution are just so much waste paper(these days) and unless somebody takes a stand then you might as well recycle those documents into toilet paper because at this point in your history they aren't worth squat. You need to physically take back your country from the traitors that have taken control of it. USians seem to talk the talk but not walk the walk. It is too late for words and it won't be long before it will be too late for physical action. You cannot reform your current political system as it is now far to broken for that. You need to take to the mattresses as the Don would say.
Thank you Phantom, It's good to hear someone whos reality is in check! hang tuff! Remember, Never begins it NEVER but ounce ingaged, never surender showing the fangs of rage! DON'T TREAD ON ME! D JOYCE, do you know a man by the name of Dan Benham,who speeks heavily on that subject? and if so do you know how I can get hold of him? I need to increase my understanding on that subject, anything would help. Thanks for bringing that issue up! It's VERY important that people understand the root of this problem. Without this total understanding when the moment of truth is apon us, when your finger is on the trigger...A damn good movie to see is THE LAST SAMURAI, watch it again if you have too!
I see no way out of this mess short of an armed conflict. Many of you think you can reason with these elite pigs. GET THIS STRAIGHT! You can't reason with, talk nice, cajole or cuddle with them. The only thing they understand is violence. Don't get me wrong. I hate the idea of violence too, but sometimes it's better to put out a fire by using fire. We the people are nothing but slaves and "useless eaters" to the elite filth that have invaded our government many years ago. Many of you think that boycotting, signing petitions, writing letters to editors, congress and representitives or voting the scum out of office will in time bring change. How are we going to vote them out if we don't have control of the voting process? And where are you going to get a paper ballot to write in a candidates name when most all voting is electronic? Boycotting can't work because they own or control most everything in our lives. Writing an op ed in a local newspaper only reaches a limited number of people and the big newspapers woun't print most letters due to the volume of them. They could devote many pages to these editorials. Signing petitions is a waste of time because they are largely ignored by the so called poitical leaders. They are only interested in selfish gains to their own bank accounts. If you people are serious about doing something to help bring these filthy rich pigs some harm, STOP BUYING EVERYTHING ON CREDIT. Most people have at least 3 or more high interest rate credit cards and loans of some kind that they pay on each month. Some have as many as 12 to 20 credit cards in their possesion. Use your heads. Just think of the interest on all combined and what you pay out each time you pay those bills. Read your statements and see where your money is going. Talk about a scam?! What these bastards fear most is an armed conflict. They know that we the "useless eaters" could topple their little regeme by amassing our numbers together and throwing them out of our country or sending them to prison for life where they belong. Why do you think they want to know who has firearms and want all of us to register our guns? So we could all go on a hunting expidition with Dick Cheney?:-o It's past time to quit talking and take action!
HOW YOU GOING TO WAKE UP YOUR FELLOW AMERICAN?AND WHEN YOU DO HOW WOULD THEY GET THERE FAT GREASY ARSE OFF THE COUCH AND MAKE A DIFFERENCE.IT WOULD SEEM TO ME THAT MOST OF YOUR POPULATION DONT HAVE THE BRAINS TO THINK FOR THEM SELVES THEY LIKE BEING SCREWED BY PEOPLE IN HIGH PLACES.THE BEST YOU CAN HOPE FOR IS SELF SURVIVAL.FAT, THICK ,IGNORANT ,ARROGANT,AVERAGE AMERICANS IT WOULD SEEM DONT GIVE A SHIT .ITS GOING TO BE FUN WATCHING THE BASTARDS THAT CAUSED SO MUCH PAIN OVER THE WORLD GET FRIED.GET YOUR FAT BURGER EATING ,DRUNKEN,EVIL SWINES OUT OF MY FACE AND IF YOU HAVE TO KILL SOMETHING KILL EACHOTHER.THX AND GOOD LUCK IN THE GULAGS.
HOW YOU GOING TO WAKE UP YOUR FELLOW AMERICAN?AND WHEN YOU DO HOW WOULD THEY GET THERE FAT GREASY ARSE OFF THE COUCH AND MAKE A DIFFERENCE.IT WOULD SEEM TO ME THAT MOST OF YOUR POPULATION DONT HAVE THE BRAINS TO THINK FOR THEM SELVES THEY LIKE BEING SCREWED BY PEOPLE IN HIGH PLACES.THE BEST YOU CAN HOPE FOR IS SELF SURVIVAL.FAT, THICK ,IGNORANT ,ARROGANT,AVERAGE AMERICANS IT WOULD SEEM DONT GIVE A SHIT .ITS GOING TO BE FUN WATCHING THE BASTARDS THAT CAUSED SO MUCH PAIN OVER THE WORLD GET FRIED.GET YOUR FAT BURGER EATING ,DRUNKEN,EVIL SWINES OUT OF MY FACE AND IF YOU HAVE TO KILL SOMETHING KILL EACHOTHER.THX AND GOOD LUCK IN THE GULAGS.
Yep. you're right. welcome to the collective.
you think the Borg were a fantasy?
this will be the beginning.
resistance is futile.
they can arrest you for thought crimes now.
wait till the Bushies pull another 911 and
declare there will be no more presidential elections. it's coming soon.
It'll be King George all over again.
and you let it happen.
Bloody hell, I'm glad you folks don't exist outside of the nutjob minority group you all bleong to.
Gulags, Facists indeed - you all cheapen the word and disrespect those who gave their lives fighting real facism this last century.
You are what is wrong with the west today, lilly livered whining toads. Piss off elsewhere if you don't like it - I suggest the mideast, sharia law should sit well with y'all.
Hey ROB? You sound like a bend over and take it in the butt BRIT! Am I right? I think I am! Or a kangaroo ropper!You have NO room to talk! NONE! If your here a.k.a. USA LEAVE!!! It would hurt me SOOOOOO MUCH if you got caught in the crossfire when this shit goes down. REALY I MEAN THAT!
It occurs to me, Doug, that one doesn't need to be a whore to recognize a pimp job. The congress is full of pimps and I, for one, am getting off my knees, wiping their slime from my face and remembering that I have teeth.
I'm going to vote with an absentee ballot since we have those accursed Diebold machines here in Ohio. Unless I know for sure that a candidate will support the Constitution (state and federal), I going to abstain where I see no viable candidate.
Can you imagine what would happen if EVERYONE voted third party on those Diebold machines?
Opportunists abound. It doesn't matter whom you don't like... you could haul away an SUV-load, and by the time you got back, there'd be eight more in line.
It's all about opportunity. If you live next to the woods, moles will invade your yard, no matter how many you poison, until you eliminate their source of food. If your kids use drugs, then the supply will eventually reach them, no matter how many dealers you incarcerate, until you eliminate the demand. If we continue to elect and re-elect based on advertising instead of achievements and past performance, then opportunists with cash backing will continue to hold office, until "We the People" re-learn to vote the way our founding fathers wanted us to... based on issues, and the real achievements and past performance of the candidates.
Bottom line, far less than half of eligible Americans vote in local elections, and sometimes only half vote in national elections. Most elections are decided by how many non-voters respond to a sellacious 30-second spot, putting down the Oreos and abandoning the Rosanne reruns, to have their uneducated "say."
So, it's not George's, Carl's, Dick's, and maybe even Hillary's fault... they're just following the path of least resistance created by a lazy, willfully uneducated and inarticulate electorate. When we eliminate the opportunity, the opportunists will disappear. You can bet on it.
I have heard, and this for many years, that we need to work within the system to fix it. People talk, rant & rave about the long string of abuses that have occured since the early 20th Century. And yet, the inevitable corruption of power continues unabated. When will a courageous people stand up at the state level and tell their congress-idiots that enough is enough by imprisoning these people? What is happening is tantamount to murder... if you doubt that statement, look at Madeleine Albright's responses to the deaths of hundreds of thousands in Boznia-Herzegovina or the current administrations response to the dead and dying in the 2nd Gulf War. I can think of no better word to describe the thousands and thousands of deaths that are happening.
Today, there are no possibilities for the Anne Franks or the Schindlers of yesteryear, the capability of modern surveillance will catch those of whom wish to escape the system. It is almost past the time...what can be done?
Steve,
Study the ramping up to, and carrying on of, the battles of Concord and Lexington at the outset of the American Revolution.
In simple terms, the leading members of the Sons of Liberty held private meetings strategizing, and continued to print their messages of freedom in local papers. They were an extreme minority; less than 2% initially.
They openly formed citizens' militias and drilled. At the same time, most vowed not to be the initial aggressors.
The King nor his commanding officers acted with outright blood-letting initially. They were somewhat disagreeing neighbors at that point.
The Founders refused to whince in re. to asserting their inherent unalienable birth rights of freedom. When they did decide to bear arms, it was for that purpose. Not rights given by a King, or rights 'given' by documents and papers, or rights bequeathed by obsessive compulsive busy-body neighbors through broad-baed democracy and mob rule, or rights donated by a nationalist military... but rights that they believed that ALL human beings possesed (aside from their rather narrow, but historically expectable, view of who was eligible to be considered a uman being).
When King George's troops finally did march to disarm and subjugate them, then they drew the line, squeezed triggers, and left George and his ranking military commanders dumb-founded as to what had just occured.... and what to make of it.
A study of that sequence of events, the honor involved in making a pact to not aggress, but the willingness to stand a line, still captures the mind and heart today. In essence, they were Rosa Parks with muskets, refusing to move beyond the place they stood in regard to liberty.
So, what to do? Like anything that's truly broken, either fix it, or discard it. But maintaining it in its disrepair is out of the question and beyond the extreme ranges of anything resembling acceptability at this point.
Doug's Rant certainly made the Posters come out of the woodwork. This is the longest list of Posts, that I have ever seen.
As the many of Posts before this, I too, was furious at the Democratic Senators that sais "Yes" passing this latest afront to American Freedoms.
There are Two Democratic Senators from my State, with both betraying the citizenry. Both have spoken out loudly, against Bush on many occasion. For all the shouting they did, it has gone for naught when they sided with Bush at this time.
They can not convince me, when they site their reason, which will undoutly be the mealy safegards within this portion of the Act.
Both were written to and given notice that this will be remembered, upon the end of their current term of office.
Let's get things moving dammit! Iam willing to get involved with the Constitution Party IF they will refrain from using irrelevant hotbutton issues such as abortion and gay rights. These are not the threat to American. Our government is.
There must be a nation-wide effort to organize everybody including Greens, Constitution Party, The Sons of Liberty, The Libertarians et all into ONE Cohesive party. leave out the useless issues! Stay focused on the one issue that matters: return our country to the laws of our great Constitution. That should be the only goal!
es, we must march on D.C.it must be on July 4th and everyone should be carrying a copy of the Constitution.
We need to get the ball rolling now dammit! So how about it?
We need to contact the people in the other parties to get this together and yes even gays.
WE need to remember thatwhat affects one affects us all.
We need literature to hand out. DVD's and Posters. We need speakers, people who are willing to attend town meeting and start raising a fuss.
We need to get the word out boys(and girls) before it is too late.
If we can get a few million to march on D.C. They won't dare do anything about. They can't refuse refuse as several million people practicing the great American value of Civil Disobedience will overwhelm the scum suckers.
We can even infiltrate into local radio and TV stations and inject our own news shows. We can use local access channels.
We must utilise every aveneue of communication we can think of.
The time for squabling and back biting to cease is now!
"Either we all hang together or we will hang seperately".
I hope that we are not too late.
LET'S DO IT!
It is about time Americans realised that the attack on the Constitution is a religiously motivated attack. Your Constitution stands in the way of a religious takeover. Americans have forgotten their history. Your country was founded on Chritianity and the right of any citizen to worship as he pleased but this principal of religious liberty is under attack. Dont forget the Pilgrim fathers fled to America to escape religious persecution in Europe by the Catho... church. Since those days the Cath... church has been determined to overthrogh the religious liberty guaranteed by the constitution and George Bush is a willing slave of those who want the consitution destroyed to enable the Cath...to take America over. Your constitution is hated by those who despise your religiuos liberty. Take note soon you will see church and state combined in America and religious law enforced. Read the book The Great Controversy by E.G.White first published 1893.
America was NOT founded on Christianity!
The Founding Fathers Were Not Christians
Thomas Paine was a pamphleteer whose manifestos encouraged the faltering spirits of the country and aided materially in winning the war of Independence:
I do not believe in the creed professed by the Jewish church, by the Roman church, by the Greek church, by the Turkish church, by the Protestant church, nor by any church that I know of...Each of those churches accuse the other of unbelief; and for my own part, I disbelieve them all."
From:
The Age of Reason by Thomas Paine, pp. 8,9 (Republished 1984, Prometheus Books, Buffalo, NY)
John Adams, the country's second president, was drawn to the study of law but faced pressure from his father to become a clergyman. He wrote that he found among the lawyers 'noble and gallant achievments" but among the clergy, the "pretended sanctity of some absolute dunces". Late in life he wrote: "Twenty times in the course of my late reading, have I been upon the point of breaking out, "This would be the best of all possible worlds, if there were no religion in it!"
It was during Adam's administration that the Senate ratified the Treaty of Peace and Friendship, which states in Article XI that "the government of the United States of America is not in any sense founded on the Christian Religion."
From:
The Character of John Adams by Peter Shaw, pp. 17 (1976, North Carolina Press, Chapel Hill, NC) Quoting a letter by JA to Charles Cushing Oct 19, 1756, and John Adams, A Biography in his Own Words, edited by James Peabody, p. 403 (1973, Newsweek, New York NY) Quoting letter by JA to Jefferson April 19, 1817, and in reference to the treaty, Thomas Jefferson, Passionate Pilgrim by Alf Mapp Jr., pp. 311 (1991, Madison Books, Lanham, MD) quoting letter by TJ to Dr. Benjamin Waterhouse, June, 1814.
James Madison, fourth president and father of the Constitution, was not religious in any conventional sense. "Religious bondage shackles and debilitates the mind and unfits it for every noble enterprise."
"During almost fifteen centuries has the legal establishment of Christianity been on trial. What have been its fruits? More or less in all places, pride and indolence in the Clergy, ignorance and servility in the laity, in both, superstition, bigotry and persecution."
From:
The Madisons by Virginia Moore, P. 43 (1979, McGraw-Hill Co. New York, NY) quoting a letter by JM to William Bradford April 1, 1774, and James Madison, A Biography in his Own Words, edited by Joseph Gardner, p. 93, (1974, Newsweek, New York, NY) Quoting Memorial and Remonstrance against Religious Assessments by JM, June 1785.
The Treaty of Tripoli, passed by the U.S. Senate in 1797, read in part: "The government of the United States is not in any sense founded on the Christian religion." The treaty was written during the Washington administration, and sent to the Senate during the Adams administration. It was read aloud to the Senate, and each Senator received a printed copy. This was the 339th time that a recorded vote was required by the Senate, but only the third time a vote was unanimous (the next time was to honor George Washington). There is no record of any debate or dissension on the treaty. It was reprinted in full in three newspapers - two in Philadelphia, one in New York City. There is no record of public outcry or complaint in subsequent editions of the papers.
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