I have always defended your detractors, not anymore. Perhaps they WERE all right.

Doug, I enjoy your insight and web page. At an emotional level I can't allow myself to believe that my government did it either. It seems most likely that they are incompetent, but like many people, I have the sinking feeling that they knew more than they admit and let it happen. It was a big break for their agenda. It is terrible to have such thoughts. I love my country, but have no faith in the people in charge.

Well doug what happened to bldg # 7? That was not hit by an airplane

There was a time when I would have agreed with you. My head says they aren't smart enought to pull this off. My heart says they aren't corrupt enough to pull this off.

But part of me still isn't certain. There are so many things that led up to 9/11 and then right after 9/11 that don't add up.

I mean ANYONE with ANY SENSE, at all, would have AT THE VERY LEAST, called their CEO friends at the airlines to alert them to the info on the mid-August 2001 Presidential Daily Breifing. I mean come on. How many minutes would it take out of his vacation schedule? Just pick up the phone and have the Secretary of Transportation make a few private calls.

After all, forewarned is forarmed. But what did Dubya do? Nothing. Absolutely nothing until he got back from vacation and got caught up.

The state dept didn't even issue their TRAVEL WARNING until 1 or 2 days BEFORE 9/11.

If this Administration is that IRRESPONSIBLE AND INCOMPETENT, then our country is in REAL TROUBLE.

But I think that's what a lot of us have been saying for a VERY LONG TIME.

Only difference is, NOW, MORE PEOPLE ARE ACTUALLY LISTENING AND TAKING THESE THINGS TO HEART!!!!!

I have been behind you 110% on everything you have said up to this point. Whoever is ultimately behind 911 had all of it planned out to a "T". Since you were at the Pentagon that day, what happened to the plane that crashed into the Pentagon? No wings, no scorched ground leading up to where the "plane" actually hit like all other plane crashes and this pesky perfectly round hole where the "plane" finally came to rest. How would a commercial plane made out of mostly aluminum crash through that many walls of specially reinforced concrete and steel? AND leave very little, if no evidence of having crashed there? And what about WTC 7? No plane hit that? Nope, too many unanswered and poorly answered questions for me. I don't know who is ultimately behind all of it but one thing I AM sure of: It didn't happen like the "official" story says.

Yes, what did happen to Bld #7 and how come there was no plane wreckage at the Pentagon?

When are we going to get our once great country back?

If I disregard all the dozen upon dozens of coincidences that occurred that allowed the events of 911 to take place,there is one absolute piece of evidence that cannot be ignored.Why did WTC Building 7 untouched by anything with only a few minor fires on its 22nd and 23rd floors not only collapse but collapse entirely within its own foundation? Most Americans are not even aware that a third tower collapsed that day.Ignore everything else,just explain this one thing to me in a way that does not bend the laws of physics and common sense and I will perhaps begin to believe in Santa Claus and the Easter Bunny again.
David Williams in Western N.C.

Doug --
I respect your views. Today, however, I am forced to respectfully disagree. I won't bore you with all the gory details and arguments, I don't have the personal access to the individuals you do, but suffice to say that, for me, the government's official conspiracy theory simply requires far too many coincidences in order for the pieces to come together.

Govermental bureauocratic foulups I can surly buy ... Airport screening failures I can buy ... Al Qaeda's ability to PLAN an attack I can buy ...

However, allowing for the undetected EXECUTION of the plan forces me to believe the government's fable and requires me to lose complete faith in the competence of the most highly trained military in history to defend us. I also have to believe in the suspension of physical laws that steel framed buildings crumble to the ground on their footprint following short-lived fires (Building 7).

It escapes me that you can be so sure all the "lone gunman" theories are lies, yet you fall for this one. It's all about Peak Oil. Everything is always economic in this monster we call American Democracy. As you are fond of saying, "Follow the money".

Someday, 20 years from now, you'll be having a dinner with an insider and they'll make a casual, off-hand comment about 9/11 and the conclusions of the Keene Commission for the sake of American Democracy. You'll then have a hard time holding down your supper.

Doug,I am a regular reader (particularly of The Rant) and have promoted and defended your articles because I think you are usually right. In this case, I can't wholly concur. There are just too many things that we don't know and too many conflicts and inconsistences in the official account to accept it whole-cloth. From the morning of 9/11, as I watched in horror, to this day, I have wondered how four hijacked airliners could traverse U.S. airspace for nearly two hours without a fighter jet even coming close?

Emotion clouds judgement. The reason most people can't accept this is it precludes that person taking appropriate action. To know that the GLOBALISTS are making their move to destroy America's sovereignty means that that person HAS to do something to fight it or go into the world of denial. Sorry, I ain't in to denial. What do you expect from a pig but a grunt. This government is filled to the brim with pigs. LOOK AROUND for God's sake!!!!! Everything happening in the world today- Iraq and WMD, ILLEGAL surveillance, Abramhoff and AIPAC, PATRIOT ACT--is a DIRECT result of 9-11. Take a stand or find a new profession 'cause speaking out against "their" policies to an audience ain't in the cards for these Fascist scum.

Doug, you still need to address two questions. One has been asked already. Why did building 7 fall in such a short time? The other was why did the administration lie about having no idea that people might fly airplanes into the buildings?
If you can answer those, I wouldn't mind finding out whether the report that there was a huge short position taken on airline stocks just before the attack was true, and why it was allowed to be done anonymously?

BTW - I watched the second plane hit from my 20th floor office 5 blocks away. When I finally got home, and heard about the buildings falling I immediately questioned "Why building 7?"

One other thing that I have not heard anyone mention: When Andy Card came in to tell Bush that the second plane had hit the WTC, there was NO emotion on Bush's face. If he was NOT aware that this was going to happen, there would have been some amount of emotion expressed when he was told. It's just a human reaction and Bush isn't smart enough to "stop" it. Look at the video and all the still pictures. No "shock". No "dismay". No "What do I do now?" expression. Just keep on reading "My Pet Goat" upside-down and maybe it will all go away. No, that picture proves to me that the government was "in" on the planning or, at the very least, was aware of what was going to happen.

As I explained on our discussion board this morning, I talked with dozens of first responders at the scene in New York. They reported several large pieces of debris striking Building 7. Buildings blocks away suffered damage from heat, fire and falling debris.

I also asked demolition experts to watch video of the loss of Building 7 from several angles and they concluded the collapse was not consistent with a detonated implosion.

The NIST report conclused the heart of the building was damaged and that caused it to collapse internally. I know the engineer who ran the tests. He's a lifelong Democrat and would never stoop to helping Republicans on something like this.

At the Pentagon, firemen from Arlington County reported seeing small pieces of the plane among debris collected at the scene. But an explosion of a plane fully loaded with aviation fuel would consume just about everything. I've covered a number of plane crashes in my career where there was litterally nothing left of the plane after it hit and exploded.

Too many witnesses saw the plane come in low over Columbia Pike and hit the building. A conspiracy cannot control that many random members of public.

In New York, too many private citizens with cameras and video cameras captured the planes coming in.

Sorry folks. This is one conspiracy theory I can't buy into.

Doug

Doug
I have to disagree with you. There is far too much testimony from physics professors who can
prove it impossible for those towers to collapse from fire. Too many witnesses of secondary explosions inside the basement, etc. How about all the short trades with the airline stocks? How
about the fact that these planes were not intercepted in the most guarded airspace in the nation? Too many goof-ups to be mere chance. 911
is exactly what they needed to push the war and the patriot act through. Hitler did the same with the rastag fires. The fear factor worked with pearl harbor as well. Yes, it is a conspiracy.
R.Ayres in the NW.

I read and subscribe to this Blog because for the most part, I agree with Doug and his often brutal and honest characterization of Washington and the corruption that dwells within.

On the issue of the WTC - I have wondered, as has everyone else, what happened that day. I read you arguments - but they didn't include why Building # 7 went down, or the many other paradoxes that occurred that day - and instead of facts and honest answers from Washington - all we get is more secrecy, subterfuge, and to me, it is more than obvious something is being covered-up, although I have to admit at this point - I'm not sure exactly what is real - and what was staged. I believe it was a melding of the two - we knew the attacks were coming and simply failed to react or stop, and some capitalized on what has been among our greatest national tragedies…

Like many of the sentiments posted here, I have always agreed with your outlook on many issues, but not this one Doug.
As far as the plane that hit the Pentagon, The twin six ton steel and titainium engines would have left a signature hole in the building, yet none were found. Aviation grade jet fuel doesn't burn hot enough to melt either steel or titainium and as many have asked where did the plane go?
If one were to truely get into the technical areas of these events which are well laid out in the newly released video Loose Change Part II, even more unanswered questions come up such as why all of the metal from the remains of the twin towers were never examined and shipped off to other countries only to be melted down before experts could have examined them? There is also the question as to why the No. 7 building came down. In fact Doug, only three steel buildings in history have ever collapsed from a fire. Those being the twin towers and building # 7. The same is true of the flight that crashed in an empty field. Only a 10x15 foot hole and very little in the way of wreckage. Even more shocking was the fact that this plane was seen landing in Ohio with 200 of its passengers being deboarded.
Perhaps after reviewing Loose Change, you might have second thoughts about the position that you have taken on this very important subject.
All I ask of you is to review the evidence in this video and then try to form a better well rounded position.
http://www.policestateplanning.com/loose_change_ii.htm

A miracle bullet in 1963, two miracle planes that knocked down 7 buildings. Sounds perfectly normal to me. Is it a coincidence that george bush's brother was head of security at W.T.C., and his contract ended on September 10th? I'm sure it is, let's go back to sleep,

Getting an early start on April fools day, Doug!
Wake up.

Doug,go to the video section of Google and watch the entire 90 minutes of "Loose Change".This is not the raving of a tinfoil hat conspiracy theorist.

I don't know whether the government took an active part ( it sure seems that way ) or was complicit in that they stood by and did nothing,but there was surely government involvement.

It is horrifying to think the administration was involved in this but it is naive to deny it.

Dear Doug,

Well said, nevertheless, our government dropped the ball. FDR "knew" the Japanese could not just sit by while we starved them out of China with our embargo. He hardly expected the US Navy to be asleep on June 7th.
Similarily our current government didn't expect such a successful attack; nor did it pay the kind of careful attention to intelligence required to defend this nation. We were not prepared. Why? Certainly 9-11 served the present administration's interests.

The administration knew it would happen.
They thought it would be something far less.
They needed a "War President."

Building 7 is almost as remarkable as the Magic Bullet.

Everything is now cover-up.

Doug, what about PNAC, Project for a New American Century?

Doug, you cannot lump together all "conspiracy theories." Just like the people who were convinced something smelled in the JFK assassination, there is a wide range of arguments, some highly convincing, others not. And for heaven's sake, NO ONE is arguing that planes DIDN'T hit the WTC and the Pentagon(at least, no one sane).

But the compelling argument---and it is a damned good one, supported by many far more learned in physics and eingeering than you or I---is that while the planes were flown into the structures, that alone was not enough to bring them down. Particularly in the case of the WTC there is much forensic evidence on other incidences of planes hitting buildings, subsequent fires, burning times, impact studies, etc---and the WTC is unique in all the world, in the manner and speed of its collapse.

In 1945 a plane flew into the Empire State Building. It wasn't a terrorist event, but a simple accident. There was damage and death----but as we all know the Empire State Building did not come down. Other skyscrapers have sustained huge fires and burned for days without coming down. The pulverized concrete, coupled with hideous explosions in the basement seconds after impact dozens of floors above, both point to the use of explosives.

Read "The New Pearl Harbor" by David Ray Griffin and your perspective will assuredly change. Griffin is not a hothead or some kind of a kook; he is a retired theology professor from the staid Claremont College in California's Inland Empire. This is one of the most conservative bastions in the country. I hardly think Mr Griifin is going to paint his chest black and chain himself to the White House steps.

Since your mind is made up I know nothing I say will convince you. But all I ask is that you keep an open mind and don't swallow the government's story whole. "Al Qaeda" simply means "the database." These were people originally trained and groomed by the CIA to take down the Soviets in Afghanistan. Many still retain strong CIA contacts. Don't forget that.

Although I agree with your column, apparently there are some physical anamolies concerning the destruction of the towers. We should not let politics deter us from studying these anamolies. The more we understand about why the towers collapsed, the better we can protect new structures.

Doug, I agree with you that the Adminstration did not plan and execute the 9/11 attacks. However, There has been considerable evidence uncovered that they did know that an attack was coming, and let it happen. They certainly have used the attacks to their advantage and pass things like the Patriot Act. They SURE AS HELL use it as justification for things that they do.

Doug --
You unfortunately made a fatal flaw in your just-posted reply.

"He's a lifelong Democrat and would never stoop to helping Republicans on something like this."

It isn't about Democrat and Republican. It's about elite and the rest of us. It's about TPTB (The Powers That Be) and them that ain't. It's about rulers and their faithful, adoring subjects. It's all about class -- who's in and who never will be. That's what this is and always has been about.

-- Bill in Michigan

Dear Mr. Thompson,
Until such time that an independent panel other than the 9/11 commission can provide an unbiased assesment as to what happened on 9/11, I have to seriously doubt the commissions findings.
There were N.Y firemen in those buildings who did survive and testified that there were secondary explosions not only in the basement of the buildings but above as well.
The 9/11 commission report was a whitewash as was the Warren commission. At the very least our government had advanced warnings that these attacks were going to take place, yet nothing was done to prevent them.
I always found it amusing that planes of this size could instantly vaporize, and yet the passport of one of the hijackers were found in the rouble. Amazing!
Sorry Doug, there are far more questions than answers on this subject, and the American people deserve better than than company line being proffered by our elected officials.

The 9/11 attacks succeeded because of the incredible improbability that such a ragtag group could pull it off.

I personally feel al Qeada is much more than ragtag. Bush paints them as cliff-dwelling troglodites, but I'm not so sure.

I'll entertain your observations and others. I hope whatever did happen comes out eventually. For now, I side with you. The pilots could easily have accomplished these acts.

OT, but please add "required field" notes to the posts. I always forget email addy is required because usually it isn't. Thanx

What about THE DICK, cheney's stand down order to put fighter jets in the air. When did it become law that the vice-president could take control of NORAD? Didn't it take over an hour to put fighters in the air? I know, just another coincidence, go back to sleep.

I love your columns and their up-front OPINIONATED
take on things. 99% of the time they seem dead-on.

This time you are once again opinionated(no surprise) but just straight UNINFORMED. Vastly so.

Watch the video at:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8260059923762628848&q=loose+change

and try writing the same column again as is.
If you can, it will prove to me something that I hope is untrue--that you value your first take on things ABOVE a mountain of contrary demonstrated facts.

Namaste!

jdc95570@yahoo.com

Tom, I'm confused. You defended the detractors but not now even though they may be right?

My head spins.

Our government may be incompetent, but others are not.

"There is no indication that the Israelis were involved in the 9-11 attacks, but investigators suspect that the Israelis may have gathered intelligence about the attacks in advance, and not shared it."

For the curious, there is a ton of info here:

http://www.antiwar.com/israeli-files.php

Doug,

I agree with you that 9/11 was not an inside job. But there are two things that must be pointed out that lead people to believe this to be true. First, there is the longstanding ties of the Bush family to Saudi money. Shortly after 9/11 a report came inwhich 17 pages were redacted. Speculation was that these pages dealt with the Saudi's and that many of these people had ties not only to the Bush family but to bin Laden and terrorist organizations. The problem? The Bush family's amoral business dealings is what leads people to conspiracy theories. Second and this where I believe there is a conspiracy. That is what happened after 9/11. That was the coverup of the shear incompetence of the Bush Administration and the corrupt and amoral business dealings of the Bush administration and family. No Bush et al. didn't help plan 9/11 nor did they condone it but they were enablers in that they are willing to do business with anyone regardless of how despicable they happen to be.

Doug,I might take your point of view on this more seriously if footage of "a plane" hitting the pentagon was released. There was a lot of footage to choose from and the government shows us five frames that show no airliner? Is someone buying your lunch or hinting at your future "suicide"?

The key in Doug's essay is his saying "I will not" believe anything but the official line on 9/11. I didn't need to read any further once I read that. A closed mind isn't where I look for reasoned commentary on a subject. This is an advocacy piece, not a careful, rational assessment of the many arguments against and inconsistencies in the official line.

Doug, I have admired and respected you for a long time, now, but I 'm not sure I agree with you....of course, I'm not sure if I don't either...
would you at least agree to this.....that our government knew about this great plan and did nothing to stop it? How about this one....our government knew about this and, shall we say "helped it along"?
In my humble opinion, there are too many questions that are unanswered....Bldg. 7 for one....another thing is, so many scientists and physicists say that those building went down as if a bomb hit it....and that the fuel from the planes should not be enough to melt that steel like that....
Of course at the same time, it is absolutely mind boggling to me that our government would be responsible for such a thing! On the other hand, it's perfect isn't it.....to bring about their fascist style government something like this HAD to happen, to keep the people in fear, so they will follow like sheep and not question....
I dont' know, Doug.....I just don't know.....

Finally, you have proven to me to be what I always suspected but what I was never 100% sure about. You are, actually, just another government shill. I have had problems believing your claims on numerous occassions but have continued to read you anyway. No more. It has become obvious that you are, without doubt, a provider of misinformation and disinformation.

i have never believed it was an inside job, it went off too perfect for these jerkos to have planned it. i have my own theory and have believed this from day 1 9/12/01.

keep in mind lee iacocca of ford and the pinto with the faulty placed gas tank. he made a BUSINESS decision not to recall and fix the problem. it was cheaper to pay out for a few deaths than recall. now we have an appointed mba president who is going to run the u.s. like a corporation. these jerkos have a time frame, they have a method, and the name of the perp. they discuss the situation with their big contributors the airlines. these executives say they can't possibly shut down the airlines in order to secure planes. plus it would destroy the economy and it could be the pearl harbor they were looking for, so a BUSINESS decision is made to do nothing, no warnings, no beefed up security, NOTHING!!!!!

that look on bushy's face was a look of realization that this is how it was going to happen, not that it did happen

YOu missed the point. Yes planes were flown into those buildings, but why was NORAD running a drill of Kamikaze attacks on the World Trade Center the day of the actual attacks? And building 7 was "pulled" imploded. Those explosive charges would have had to have been laid well in advance...

Doug,

After todat's Rant, it's become obvious that your paper was bought out, must have been sometime overnight, by FOX news. Were you paid to write this or just threatened with losing your job???

Jim

Sorry Doug---I agree with you on most everything you write.....but I think you have not really studied the events ( the CIA controlled " put options" , building 7, the controlled demolition appearance,the shipping off of the steel, the refusal to really investigate the crime, the supposed perps that are still alive, etc, etc, etc) . You need to spend some more time looking at it. I just know you're " wrong" on this one. Thanks for your other stuff though. tb

Sorry folks, I'll just have to be the lone person who agrees with Doug.

I think the Administration's biggest crime was having a clue (or, for argument's sake, having a number of clues) and failing to act. The next biggest crime was lying to cover up the multitude of missteps.

We've seen Bush and his buddies do this time and again. During and after Katrina, for instance.

And the secrecy surrounding the Bush Administration over the most trivial matters is legendary. Witness the recent reclassification and disappearance of declassified materials from the National Archives. Secrecy means nothing special--except that the Administration's a bit paranoid about what actually deserves to be covered up.

Saying Bush planned and executed 9/11 is like saying FDR planned and executed Pearl Harbor. Certainly, there was some evidence--not all of it convincing--that FDR might have known about the attack in advance and did nothing because it suited the political purpose of bringing an isolationist USA into WWII. But FDR didn't plan the air raid.

Likewise, Bush already had an agenda prior to 9/11. He wanted to invade Iraq. 9/11, or just about anything he could rightly or wrongly lay at Saddam's feet, would have fit the bill. In a manner of speaking, Bush just got lucky.

Collapse of World Trade Centre Building 7 ?
Extreme difficulty of high-speed low-level flight in heavy commercial aircraft ?
Spelling of 'pore over'?
c -

Just one other observation here. What do you want to bet that all of these responses to Doug's rant will be pulled because, as the last time, Doug will feel that it is becoming too infiltrated with "conspiracy types" and whackos?

I think it is best to divide to divide the 911 evidence into two sections. The internal part has to do with "how" the attack took place. The external part brings in the Neocons, their presence in the pentagon, the 1.5 year delay in mounting a Congressional inquiry, the flawed inquiry itself, and the almost total media blackout of the millions who suspected an inside job. (I personally thought that Bush would be the main beneficiary of the attacks on the day of the attacks, and then I suspected he was behind it. American history is full of examples of false flag attacks including the Battleship Maine which galvanized support for the Spanish-American war. Carl Rove has stated that he admired the McKinley administration above all others.)

Doug, I've always agreed with every rant I've read from you, but today I'm going to have to respectfully disagree. I guess there was bound to be one. :)

Anyway, it's always difficult to argue about physical evidence because as Mike Ruppert says one side can always bring in experts to dispute the conclusion. So arguing phyiscal evidence is a minefield best not traveled for this issue. That being said, 2 things that always stood out for me on the physical evidence side are these: the speed at which all 3 buildings collapsed (at near free fall speed) and the fact that building 7 fell at all. Since that fateful day, we've had 2 skyscrapers go up in flames in the world and neither have collapsed. Hell, one of the WTC buildings had a serious fire in the 70s and it didn't collapse then. Why now?

The second thing that always stands out to me is what Mike Rivero at www.whatreallyhappened.com calls "The Dog That Did Not Bark." With a scheduled appearance announced in advance, a few short miles from an airport, and an unknown number of hijacked planes flying over the country: why was Bush allowed to stay in the classroom endagering the lives of all around him? The Secret Service exists to protect the president. At the first mention of an attack on this country, he should've been whisked out of there faster than you could blink...unless someone knew exactly what was going on and ordered the Secret Service to stand down.

Neither of these questions have ever been answered to my satisfaction by the keepers of the "official" story.

One last thing for the people spouting the "no plane in the Pentagon" theory. PLEASE don't fall for this. You'll notice that any story that appears in the MSM always includes this theory, as if this is the central theory to all 9/11 investigators. At the right time, the government will bring forth video evidence (from the gas station and/or hotel across the street) of the plane hitting the Pentagon and forever discredit all 9/11 investigators because of this silly theory. There are a lot of government plants spouting ridiculous theories and drawing people in. Be wary.

Dear Doug,

Occams razor should not only be applied to the political area (i.e. rather ineptness than malice) but also to the available physical evidence.
The WTC collapsed with near-free-fall velocity straight into their foot. (Please check
http://www.physics.byu.edu/research/energy/htm7.html) The modelling by the official groups apparently needed to force the collaps by fiddling with parameters outside likelyhood, furthermore, they explicitly only modelled until the beginning of the collaps and ignored the peculiarity of the collaps straight down.

The fact that someone - most likely indeed Osama et al. - flew planes into WTC & Pentagon is indisputable, I suppose. However, this does not exclude the additional presence of demolition explosives, which explains the straight collapse of WTC with nearly free fall velocity.
I am afraid, however,that the (political) implications of that there in all likelyhood was an additional component in the collaps are horrendous.

Well what about building #7?

Building 7 was hit by falling debris and that weakened the structure. I know because I witnessed it first hand. My father who lives directly across the river saw the same thing. My son who works in Jersey City and had a clear view recorded with his camcorder debris hitting B#7. So take my word, #7 came down due to heat and debris.

Hell, even my ex-wife got it on tape.

I'm on board with Doug on this one.

What I will say is that we as Americans, don't have the whole story. Did you know that just a few days ago, workers found human remains in a building (not the Credit Susses Building) not far from WTC. I feel that the truth is still out there.

Well, I've said my peace.

Good Day to All!

Doug, you have failed as a journalist, in your coverage of this story, by neglecting to examine the preponderance of evidence brought forth by this side of the line. Time to go back and do your homework. You have no more evidence than they do to support the official story, the most ridiculous conspiracy theory of all. At a time when we could have used your help the most, both you and your editors have dropped the ball like a bunch of proles, and I think I speak for many in saying that our opinion of Capitol Hill Blue may never be the same.

I don't believe that the Bush family created the attack on 9-11. I do believe that they knew it was going to happen and did nothing about it. The Israeli Mossad knew, and if they knew, someone in the CIA knew which makes it likely that daddy Bush knew. It is possible they didn't know but here is a classic example of why too secretive a government is, the worse off the country is. We need accountability and transparency.

Doug,

You need to watch the 9/11 documentary, 'Loose Change'. If you can watch it and not change your mind, you are beyond hope. You can find a low-quality version of it free at Yahoo Videos, or you can order the DVD from www.infowars.com. However, you will never watch it, because you are in denial, Doug.. You refuse to believe the truth - the undeniable truth. You will make a good little sheeple, Doug. You would have marched off to the the "showers" without question for the last Hitler, too. Don't go out without your "papers", Doug. You might be mistaken for a terrorist.

I suppose you think that the war in Iraq is about terrorism, too. It's about oil, Doug, oil, the failing US dollar and the move by oil producing countries to sell their oil in Euros - leaving no one to finance our $9 trillion+ debt. The only terrorists we have to worry about live in D.C. They have done more to harm liberty and freedom in this once-great country than any foreign terrorist ever did.

"Either, you are with us, or you are with the terrorists." Do you know who said that first, Doug? Vladmir Lenin

"Unthinking respect for authority is the greatest enemy of truth." Albert Einstein

You'd better get a grip, Doug, before it's too late.

As a fellow AA member I would like to share something with you Chuck C. told me years ago. "When the intellect and the emotions are in conflict, the emotions ALWAYS win out." In your case you simply don't want to believe your own government would kill it's own citizens on a massive scale like they did on 9/11. 9/11 was definitely an inside job. The evidence to that effect is overwhelming. My friend, you are in the state of denial. I will pray for you.

Isn't it odd, that of all the named hijackers that were killed during the attacks, many of them have been documented to still being alive and living in various countries.
Do your home work Doug and watch Loose Cahnge Part II. Perhaps what bothers me the most is the fact that many on the 9/11 commission are members in good standing of the Trilateral Commission. This story stinks to hi heaven and has more holes than a piece of swiss cheese.

This administration needed something to make Bush a leader. They ignored the warnings of the last administration. Their agenda would be well served by an event of some magnitude - they just didn't realize how great a magnitude it would prove to be.

Often inaction is as effective as action. Conspiracy? If not, then great ineptitude. This administration is filled with ghosts and black holes, lies and liars, coercion and manipulation, depending on fear and paranoia. I would not discount the idea that the Bush puppeteers allowed for the lax regard of information given them at the change of administrations in order to develop an event.

You aren't just STUPID, you're DANGEROUS...and obviously have NOT done your homework. You STINK of being ONE OF THEM...

Hey Doug, I forgot to ask you:

"Tricky navigation would have been required to miss the Washington Monoument"?

Why would they want to MISS the Washington Monoument?

As an architect, I found nothing mysterious about the falling buildings. It's much harder to shoot 3 bullets in 5.7 seconds, and get the bullet to make a U turn in mid air. I also agree with Doug's instincts on 911. But I remain open minded, as always.

It was very convenient for the war hawks that it happened. But as Chomsky would say, all such events are always used as an excuse for right wingers to push through their desires. They always take advantage of fear, at such convenient moments. Had 911 not happened, we would STILL be in Iraq. That you can count on.

Micheal Moore poses the best questions - why does our secret service protect the Suadie embassy? Why did rich Suadies get to fly out of the USA when nobody else could fly? These are not 911 conspiracy questions? These are the kinds of questions that point to what drives terrorists to target our country. Who are we in bed with?

85% of our soldiers believe they went to Iraq to avenge Sadam for 911. That's 85% who don't know that we REALLY went their for oil. OIL, OIL, OIL, OIL. Wake up America. Your President and VP are x-oil men from an oil state. The Bush family is buddies with the Bin Laden family. Does anybody think for a second that that is a coincidence. The public doesn't choose the best and brightest to be President out of 280 million people? This is not American Idol. The real conspiracy should be the study how our presidents get so well selected by Exxon and Halliburton. both have done quite well the past 6 years. Coincidence?

Our government has become such a big pack of lies, nobody believes anything anymore, as evidenced by so many doubters right here. Who can blame them?

This article is over a year old but remains germane to the 9-11 debate.

Plans To Scrap WTC
Towers For $5.6 Bn In 1989!
From Karl W. B. Schwarz
kw.schwarz@worldnet.att.net
12-6-4

To Jimmy Walter
Hi Jimmy, your comment completely misses the point.
That is why, in 1989, they planned a $5.6 billion takedown and rebuild, it was tanked. The witness came to me ... and we are protecting them. The building had the structural equivalent of osteoporosis.
I am about to fund $25-50 million to THE LAWSUIT – United States Citizens v United States Government. Something major happened over the past several days.
Karl
=====================
From: Jimmy Walter
Sent: Monday, December 06, 2004 12:49 PM
To: 'Karl W. B. Schwarz'
Subject: RE: galvanic versus flying beams
No amount of galvanic action will hurl steel beams straight out horizontally and cause the building to fall at the speed of gravity. However, it would be cause for insurance fraud!
But keep trying
=====================
From: Karl W. B. Schwarz
Sent: Wednesday, November 24, 2004 1:22 PM
To: Jimmy Walter
Hello Jimmy
You are going to wind up owing me the $100,000. :-)
The Statute of Liberty had to be repaired due to galvanic corrosion in air. Not what most think is possible but in ocean environments, very possible. Normally galvanic corrosion is only a factor in an electrolyte such as sea water and the stern drive on the boat – having steel and aluminum components – erodes, turns brittle and snap – it fails – if electrolytic grounding plates are not installed.
The galvanic reaction between iron and copper was originally mitigated by insulating copper from the iron framework using an asbestos cloth soaked in shellac. However, the integrity and sealing property of this improvised insulator broke down over the many years of exposure to high levels of humidity normal in a marine environment. The insulating barrier became a sponge that kept the salted water present as a conductive electrolyte, forming a crude electrochemical cell as Volta had discovered a century earlier.
In 1989 – there were plans to erect scaffolding and disassemble the WTC towers and rebuild them. Cost projection was around $5.6 billion. One of the architects shows up to work one day and the MIB's were there – had confiscated all of the plans, specs, details, etc. for WTC. They even confiscated their office cubicles and had tape on the floor outlining where they went.
Reason – the exterior cast aluminum WTC panels had been directly connected to the steel superstructure of the building, thus causing galvanic corrosion. In short, the "life cycle" of the WTC was not 200 – 300 years, more like 30 years or so.
The exterior skin of the building – in being aluminum and connected directly to the super structure – was making the building weaker every day.
That could explain why there appears to be explosives set only about every 25 floors. Once the failure started, the brittleness of welds, rivets, bolts, etc. would fail much easier as the loads became progressively greater on the way down.
That same process would also explain why the concrete was "powderized" over time because electrolytic processes weaken concrete too by "debonding" the Portland that causes concrete to bond in the first place. However, bear in mind that the "concrete floors" were not load bearing reinforced concrete. They were supported by what was a weakening by the day superstructure and cross members.
There was a 1989 meeting and the folks at the architectural firm [Emory Roth, the project architect that took over after the design architects completed the conceptual drawings] that had their office, records, plans and specs seized – were told that the $5.6 billion "take it down, rebuild it" project was canceled and in about "10-12 years" they would "blow it up and start over". Consider that – and consider that NYC and the US Govt could not stand the global embarrassment of being so stupid or negligent that they did not consider the effects of galvanic corrosion on the superstructure. That is structural design 101 in architectural school and why they want architects to take physics and chemistry for Christ's sake. I did.
I am an architect by the way, quit practicing in 1988.

http://www.npl.co.uk/ncs/docs/the_elect
ochemistry_of_corrosion_figures.pdf
http://www.npl.co.uk/ncs/docs/the_elect
ochemistry_of_corrosion.pdf
http://www.corrosion-doctors.org/Aircraft/galvdefi.htm
see bimetallic corrosion to get to the two links above
http://www.corrosion-doctors.org/Landmarks/statue-saddle.htm
Guess what?
The fat lady HAS SUNG. You know, the one in New York Harbor with the torch of Liberty and Freedom held high.
I want to find the sick bastard that thought it would be a cute idea to have close to 3,000 in the building and use that as an excuse to go take on a whole new energy policy, war policy, and lining the pockets of just certain people.
I think a Statute of Liberty hanging for that person would be most appropriate.
best regards,
Karl W. B. Schwarz
President, Chief Executive Officer
Patmos Nanotechnologies, LLC

================

This article doesn’t visit the area of liability in the event the WTC was taken down in 1989, but that could be the primary reason the powers that be (PTB) decided to take a different approach. Had the buildings been brought down in 1989 by a private contractor and the demolition was performed perfectly and not even a bird’s feather was ruffled, the lawsuits from people in the NYC area for asbestos exposure and chemical contamination would have eclipsed the Iraq war. There would have been no way to avoid it. By outsourcing the job in 2001 to a few terrorists, the liability evaporated with the buildings.
— WFB

I believe in the conspiracy of 911. I have read many books on all the unanswered questions found in the 911 Commission report. I would love to share the books and videos with anyone who is truly interest in the truth.

s@rightpov.com

To answer some questions:

--I've watched "Loose Change." Didn't convince me. Lots of speculation.

--Striking The Washington Monument didn't have enough kill potential. The plane would have crashed short of the Pentagon.

--As a journalist, I based my conclusions on facts from experts, not speculation from others with an agenda. The facts, as I see them, don't support the theories. As someone who loves a good story I wish they did. But they don't.

Doug

Did they finally get to you? Are you afraid?
This is bs and you know it.I have been with you on most subjects but this just doesn't wash.
I thought you were a fair man and a just man..not many of those left.This just goes to prove "they" can get to anyone.
No true news in America anymore I am afraid.Are they reading what we write to you here?
Linda

I totally believe this was an inside job. Bush and his cronies have lied from the day he got in office.

Doug, what have you been smoking lately? Either the feds have their fist up your a** or this is a day early April fools joke. I have dealt with federal law enforcement before, they can be very intimidating. I too have flown simulators, a 747 in fact, and they are very difficult to handle, especially close to the ground. Turning is a problem because the wingspan is so long the possibility of scraping a wing on the ground or an object becomes a problem. Big planes don't handle like a fighter jet. The first time I landed the 747 simulator I missed the runway! One has to line up with the runway quite early to hit the target. Any flight instructor will tell you that an amatuer pilot could not have pulled any of the attacks off. I suppose the New World Order is just a fantasy too, eh? If I wanted to destroy America, I would have done exactly what Bush and his team of treasonous cowards have done. How many of us have had their jobs stolen by immigrants here on a H1-B visa? We are already finished, our once great country has been destroyed as well as our climate. Don't believe me? Wait and see.

Doug, what have you been smoking lately? Either the feds have their fist up your a** or this is a day early April fools joke. I have dealt with federal law enforcement before, they can be very intimidating. I too have flown simulators, a 747 in fact, and they are very difficult to handle, especially close to the ground. Turning is a problem because the wingspan is so long the possibility of scraping a wing on the ground or an object becomes a problem. Big planes don't handle like a fighter jet. The first time I landed the 747 simulator I missed the runway! One has to line up with the runway quite early to hit the target. Any flight instructor will tell you that an amatuer pilot could not have pulled any of the attacks off. I suppose the New World Order is just a fantasy too, eh? If I wanted to destroy America, I would have done exactly what Bush and his team of treasonous cowards have done. How many of us have had their jobs stolen by immigrants here on a H1-B visa? We are already finished, our once great country has been destroyed as well as our climate. Don't believe me? Wait and see.

I'm surprised at some of the strong comments AGAINST Doug's opinion about the 911 attacks. The "believe-as-I-believe" mentality is not something I expected to see among this (usually) thoughtfully intelligent group of readers.

I also believe that there was more than we may ever be allowed to know about those attacks, but I also don't want to be carried off by total conspiracy theories.

Jack Webb's (Dragnet) words come to mind: "Just the facts Ma'am".

Doug,
Just exactly what experts are you listening to? Other real physicists and experts have shown, conclusively, that those buildings could not, under any circumstances, have come down the way the government and Popular Mechanics stated. As an old soldier I have observed many explosions and demolitions and not one of the WTC buildings came down as a result of impact from without nor fire. Totally impossible! To PeterG, who is trying to keep your integrity intact, I would have to ask what kind of an expert is he and his x-wife? The owner of the building admitted that he ordered it "pulled" but Peter says it went down because of extraneous damage. Bull! I expect that just about every man, woman & child in America watched the events of 911 unfold that day and we all know none of those buildings pancaked without help. Into their own footprints Doug?? Who is really writing Doug's rant these days since you, supposedly, stepped down to go back to your first love of 'real' investigatve reporting? Investigate honestly!!

Isn't it strange how on the morning of 9/11 it took about an hour to scramble Airforce fighters to intercept the obviously-off-course jetliners, esp. when one was headed straight for D.C.?

When pro golfer Payne Stewart's private Learjet started to go off course high above the midWest due to the plane's rapid accidental cabin depressurization, two interceptors were scrambled within 15 MINUTES!

Andy

Respectfully, I disagree with your 911 conclusion. No way WTC-7 just "fell down" at the free-fall speed of gravity. As Eric Hufschmid says in his excellent book, "Painful Questions," you cannot be half pregnant. Not only is there NO rational explanation for the collapse of 7 due to several suspicious, pre-set fires (Curious how neither building on either side of 7 caught fire), but WTC-7 was NOT struck by a fuel laden plane. Neither were the fires in either tower hot enough to "melt" or weaken steel. If so, how was that brave woman--"The Woman At The Edge of The Abyss" (Google) able to stand on "red-hot" steel at the entry point of the plane crash?

Over 300 NYC firefighters were MURDERED that day. Don't buy the offical Kean Commission, NIST, FEMA, NTSB, FBI--and now Thompson-- version of events. Think for yourself, not as your corrupted government tells you to think.

I have always agreed with you Doug but on this one it appears you ignore ALL the facts. It is interesting that this comes after your little visit by Homeland Security.

Heil Bush

Doug,you are right on.one problem with the Kennedy situation is that even though it has facts on it's side as far as it really being a conspiracy is that anyone who realizes that reality keeps getting painted as being nuts by being lumped in with all the other crazy conspiracies-in fact i think it is part of HOW they keep the facts hidden.9/11 was a terrorist attack made possible by the bush administration ignoring the warnings.no conspiricy,just a combination of a terroist plan and our leaders love of vacations no matter what reality is.simple as that.....

It appears to me you reject all conspiricy theories because some don't pass your smell test. Isn't it part of a cover up to float theories that don't add up to discredit them all?

I will agree that all not all theories add up and I welcome your direct experience and that of others to help try to decipher what's what. I also think there are plenty of questions that have not been answered and the implication that we stop asking because you have answers to some of the questions that are being floated doesn't silence the questions that remain with me.

Any time I get the sense that it's wrong to ask the questions inmy heart, it doesn't pass my smell test. Any time I get the sense that I should come to someone else's conclusion before all my questions have been addressed, it doesn't pass my smell test. I didn't expect that from you.

Sorry, but I am not that respectful to willful ignorance. And that is the camp I'm putting Doug in. One doesn't have to be trained as a scientist to value empirical data but it helps. I'm a neuroscientist by training and neuropsychologist in practice. And the obviousness of the government coverup is so blatant that it is hard for me to comprehend how any rational empiricist could continue to have his eyes closed. Like you Doug. But I am also a clinical psychologist so I do know how one's intelligence is often clouded by denial, emotions, and internal discord. I suppose those issues are plaguing you now. But I have no sympathy for you Doug. Only for the thousands already dead in NY, the hundreds of thousands dead in Iraq (see Lancet) and Afghanistan and the potential thousands to millions yet to die because of our unwillingness to confront a hideous crime in our own country and to demand the answers. So, Doug, you are also responsible. And I can spare no sympathy or pity for you.

It's amazing, buildings don't fall completely to the ground during an earthquake, but building 7 has debris fall into it and causes it's foundation to be shaken to the core. SOUNDS COMPLETELY LOGICAL TO ME! Building 7 must have been so weak, that a good rock and roll band could have knocked it down with noise. You who defend the 9-11 commision report are either smoking way too much, or you've been trained from childhood to be a good sheep. What organizations were housed at the 7th building? What's the sense? You are blind leaders of the blind. Some of us, however, many of us see through the screen and will not be fooled again. LEE HARVEY OSWALD KILLED J.F.K. AND THE 7TH BUILDING FELL DUE TO DEBRIS. I'LL KEEP REPEATING IT, I'M SURE IT WILL MAKE SENSE SOONER OR LATER. As it is written, " FALSE PROPHETS WILL ARISE AND DECEIVE MANY." Where do you find yourself Doug, the deceiver or the deceived?

Doug: The loud snap of your mind shutting is deafening.

Here is a summation of your Rant; "I know what I know and I don't need to know no more".

Are you capable of seeing beyond your own opinion on this issue? Then I challenge you:
Study www.st911.org for an hour or so, see Loose Change 2nd Edition (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5137581991288263801&q=loose+change&pl=true)
and then tell us if you have any questions about the "official" version.

Doug probably won't even see this... but to those who agree with his summation, the above challenge is put forward to you as well.

stay updated on alternative 9/11 news
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Good Day ALL

First of all to CINDY,

I think what we have here are many in the administration that are truly incompetent, some that do their best to appear that way sort of in a see nothing, hear nothing, know nothing, more than anything else to stay out of the limelight.. I believe you will find BOTH TYPES surrounding some very cunning but vicious people who use the power of their office to enrich themselves to whatever degree they desire and KNOW that most likely it will go unchallenged for fear of reprisals.

Doug, Sorry, but I have to join the majority here. I DO NOT believe in conspiracy theories either, I do not and never will believe that ANY building was brought down by placed explosives. But I do believe that there were warnings up and down the line everywhere about the impending disaster, certainly clues everywhere that even the blind, deaf and dumb would figure out....and 9/11 still happened.

Put any adjective you want on it but there were too many "incidents" far to many warnings, far too many suspicious events taking place. When the flight schools reported these trainees as being very suspicious in wanting to know how to turn off the transponder and skip the part about learning to land (that being the most difficult part of flying generally) the warnings, and statements were ignored.

There is NO NEED to micro-manage any small part of 9/11. It's right there in black and white for all to see with just the facts as reported.

That plus there have been far too many "incidents" all throughout this "administration" to suggest otherwise.

If you don't believe as they do...but your never quite sure what they really believe, you're UNPATRIOTIC. If you do your job and it's according to all the written rules and don't go along when they want them changed or ignored, you're fired....the list goes on forever.

I won't say BUSH knew but I will say and do believe that people in this Administration did know that 9-11 was coming and how it was going to happen. The people killed were as we have all heard before collateral damage.

I have to agree with Doug on this. The current administration is most certainly guilty of greed, deception and gross amoral incompetence. If this were enough to send them all to prison, then they would have to share thier cells with every pastor and clergyman who professes to have studied the bible rather than simply memorize it chapter and verse.

Yes ... too many crazy theories drowning out the truth.

Best case scenario - the administration knew of the attack and let it happen. (Another Pearl Harbor to the the ball rolling in Afganistan and Iraq).

Worst case scenario - the administration was involved and assisted once they knew that an attack was being planned. Where were the planes on the day? ... a coincidence that on the very same day the airforce was tied up with 4 separate war games/simulations?

Don't let the crazy theories drown out the truth.

BULL, MAYBE YOU WENT OVER TO THEIR SIDE. THERE IS SO MUCH EVEDINCE THAT THEY PLANNED AND CARRIED THIS OUT, THAT ONE WOULD HAVE TO BE BRAIN DEAD NOT TO CONNECT THE PIECES.

1. NORAD ON COMPLETE STANDDOWN.
2. PENTAGON CANCELLED ALL FLIGHTS FOR PERSONNEL ON 9/11.
3. ASHCROFT TOLD TO START TAKING NON-COMERCIAL PLAINS TWO WEEKS BEFORE.
4 PEOPLE IN PENAGON SHORTING BOTH AIRLINE STOCKS
5. MULTIPLE REPORTS OF GOVERMENT RUNNING 9/11 SIMULATION MORNING OF 9/11 WHICH IS WHY NORAD WAS AT STANDDOWN.
6. GENERAL FROM NORAD SAYS THEY RAN 35 SUCH SIMULATIONS IN SEVERAL MONTHS PRIOR TO 9/11 WHICH IS WHY THEY JUST ASSUMED IT WAS ANOTHER OF THEMANY SIMULATIONS.
7. I BELIEVE STANLEY HILTON, LAWYER FOR MANY 9/11 FAMILIES WHO IS A WASHINGTON INSIDER, REPUBLICAN, AND FORMER CHIEF OF STAFF FOR BOB DOLE, WHO SAYS THEY DID IT AND HE HAS ALL THE PROOF INCLUDING EYE WITNESSES THAT SAW THE SOCIOPATH ALCOHOLIC PRESIDENT SIGN THE ORDER AUTHORIZING 9/11.
8. EXPERIENCED PILOTS SAY THAT ONE PLAIN THAT HIT THE WORLD TRADE CENTER MADE A 2G TURN, AND ONLY THE MOST EXPERIENCED FIGHTER PILOT COULD OF PERFORMED THAT MANUVER, OR IT WAS DONE BY REMOTE CONTROL WHICH IS HOW THOSE PLAINS WERE FLOWN.
9. IT IS DOCUMENTED THAT A NUMBER OF THESE SO CALLED HIJACKERS ARE STILL ALIVE. THE DIRECTOR OF THE FBI SAID ON CNN TWICE WITHIN SEVERAL WEEKS OF 9/11 WHEN CONFRONTED WITH THIS INDDORMATION, THAT THYE REALLY DID NOT KNOW WHO WAS ON THE PLAINS.
10. READ "OPERATION NORTHWOODS" ON THE INTERNET
11. READ THE "PNAC" PLAN ON THE INTERENT THAT SAYS FOR THE NEOCONS TO CARRY OUT THEIR PLAN (WRITTEN IN 1998)OF WORLD ECONOMIC DOMINATION BY USE OF OUR MILITARY, THAT WHAT THYE NEED IS ANOTHER "PEARL HARBOUR TYPE EVENT"!! HOW LUCKY COULD THESE GUYS HAVE GOTTEN?
12. READ ABOUT "OPERATION MOCKINGBIRD" THE CIA'S SUBVERSION AND CONTROL OF THE NEWS MEDIA.
13. FEMA WAS CALLED IN TO NEW YORK CITY AND ARRIVED ON 9/10. JSUT A COINCIDENCE I GUESS.
14. WHY WAS EACH FAMILY WHO LOST LOVE ONES IN 9/11 PAID OFF OVER 2 MILLIONS DOLLARS?
15. WHY DID THE HIGHLY RESPECTED FIREFIGHTS NATION MAGAZINE SAY THAT THEY HAD MANNY REPROTS FROM POLICE AND FIREFIGHTERS THAT THEY HEARD TIMED EXPLOISIONS
16. WHY HAVE EXPERT ENGINEERS SAID THAT IT IS IMPOSSIBLE THAT THE BUILDINGS COLASPED FROM THAT FIRE.
17. WHY IS IT THAT FBI AGENTS WERESO FRUSTRATED THAT INFOR THYE WERESENDING BACK TO THE FBI HEADQUARTERS WAS BEING IGNORED.
18. WHY IS IT THAT MOHAMED ATTA ATTENDED SEVERAL DIFFERERT OFFICERS SCHOOLS.
19. WHY IS IT THAT THE PALIN THAT CRASHED IN PA HAD THE DEBRIE SPREAD OUT OVER MANNY MANY MILES, AS NUMEROUS IMPARTIAL CITIZEN EYE WITNESS ON THE GROUND SAW THE PLAIN EXPLODE IN MID AIR.
20. Colonel Donn de Grand-pre told John Lee, Alex Jones and Planet Earth that F16s from Happy Hooligans in North Dakota Air National Guard based in Langley Virginia claim to have shot down the Boeing 757 identified as "United Airlines Flight 93" on 9/11/2001 - Grand-pre later identified the name of the Hooligan who shot down UAL93 as Major Rick Gibney, who was honored by the Governor of North Dakota and the US Senate for his defense of Washington DC and US Congress on 9/11/2001
21. WHO DO YOU BELIEVE, THE NEOCONS
OR REAL PEOPLE WHO PUT THEIR ASS ON THE LINE TO GET OUT THE TRUTH BECASUE THEY ARE DISCUSTED WITH THE LIES AND GREED FOR OIL.
22. WHY IS IT THAT LARRY WILERSON, FORM CHIEF OF STAFF FOR COLLEN POWELL SAYS THAT HE WAS IN MEETINGS PRIOR TO 9/11 WHERE ALL THEY TALKED ABOUT WAS HOW THEY CAN GRAB THE MIDEAST OIL FIELDS, THAT WAS THERI SOLE PURPOSE.

I COULD GO ON AND ON AND ON.

THE EVEDINCE IS JSUT SO OVERWHELMING THAT ONE WOULD HAD TO BE SO IGNORANT OR BRAIN DEAD NOT TO SEE A CLEAR PICTURE OF WHAT HAPPENED.

THIS IS NOT THE FIRST TIME THEY HAVE PLANNED SUCH AN ADVENTURE, READ "OPERATION NORTHWOODS" ON THE INTERENT. IS SHOW YOU THE KIND OF MENTALLITY THE PENAGON IS CAPABLE OF.

Mr Thompson: You wrote: "In New York, too many private citizens with cameras and video cameras captured the plane coming in."

Yup---And some of them captured the wrecked engine on the street. NOT a 757-767 engine, not even close. Check out Jon Carlson's fine research in this Internet column: "WTC Jet Engine Confirmed NOT From Boeing 767" (Google). Or check out, also on Google, "Introducing the amazing new Penta-Lawn 2000!" Then calmly step back away from the Kean Report, Doug, and have another look at David Ray Griffins "Omissions and Distortions." At least Mr Griffin mentions a 47 story skyscraper! Thanks---

ASK "MOSAD"

ASK "MOSAD"

ASK "MOSAD"

BULL, MAYBE YOU WENT OVER TO THEIR SIDE. THERE IS SO MUCH EVEDINCE THAT THEY PLANNED AND CARRIED THIS OUT, THAT ONE WOULD HAVE TO BE BRAIN DEAD NOT TO CONNECT THE PIECES.

1. NORAD ON COMPLETE STANDDOWN.
2. PENTAGON CANCELLED ALL FLIGHTS FOR PERSONNEL ON 9/11.
3. ASHCROFT TOLD TO START TAKING NON-COMERCIAL PLAINS TWO WEEKS BEFORE.
4 PEOPLE IN PENAGON SHORTING BOTH AIRLINE STOCKS
5. MULTIPLE REPORTS OF GOVERMENT RUNNING 9/11 SIMULATION MORNING OF 9/11 WHICH IS WHY NORAD WAS AT STANDDOWN.
6. GENERAL FROM NORAD SAYS THEY RAN 35 SUCH SIMULATIONS IN SEVERAL MONTHS PRIOR TO 9/11 WHICH IS WHY THEY JUST ASSUMED IT WAS ANOTHER OF THEMANY SIMULATIONS.
7. I BELIEVE STANLEY HILTON, LAWYER FOR MANY 9/11 FAMILIES WHO IS A WASHINGTON INSIDER, REPUBLICAN, AND FORMER CHIEF OF STAFF FOR BOB DOLE, WHO SAYS THEY DID IT AND HE HAS ALL THE PROOF INCLUDING EYE WITNESSES THAT SAW THE SOCIOPATH ALCOHOLIC PRESIDENT SIGN THE ORDER AUTHORIZING 9/11.
8. EXPERIENCED PILOTS SAY THAT ONE PLAIN THAT HIT THE WORLD TRADE CENTER MADE A 2G TURN, AND ONLY THE MOST EXPERIENCED FIGHTER PILOT COULD OF PERFORMED THAT MANUVER, OR IT WAS DONE BY REMOTE CONTROL WHICH IS HOW THOSE PLAINS WERE FLOWN.
9. IT IS DOCUMENTED THAT A NUMBER OF THESE SO CALLED HIJACKERS ARE STILL ALIVE. THE DIRECTOR OF THE FBI SAID ON CNN TWICE WITHIN SEVERAL WEEKS OF 9/11 WHEN CONFRONTED WITH THIS INDDORMATION, THAT THYE REALLY DID NOT KNOW WHO WAS ON THE PLAINS.
10. READ "OPERATION NORTHWOODS" ON THE INTERNET
11. READ THE "PNAC" PLAN ON THE INTERENT THAT SAYS FOR THE NEOCONS TO CARRY OUT THEIR PLAN (WRITTEN IN 1998)OF WORLD ECONOMIC DOMINATION BY USE OF OUR MILITARY, THAT WHAT THYE NEED IS ANOTHER "PEARL HARBOUR TYPE EVENT"!! HOW LUCKY COULD THESE GUYS HAVE GOTTEN?
12. READ ABOUT "OPERATION MOCKINGBIRD" THE CIA'S SUBVERSION AND CONTROL OF THE NEWS MEDIA.
13. FEMA WAS CALLED IN TO NEW YORK CITY AND ARRIVED ON 9/10. JSUT A COINCIDENCE I GUESS.
14. WHY WAS EACH FAMILY WHO LOST LOVE ONES IN 9/11 PAID OFF OVER 2 MILLIONS DOLLARS?
15. WHY DID THE HIGHLY RESPECTED FIREFIGHTS NATION MAGAZINE SAY THAT THEY HAD MANNY REPROTS FROM POLICE AND FIREFIGHTERS THAT THEY HEARD TIMED EXPLOISIONS
16. WHY HAVE EXPERT ENGINEERS SAID THAT IT IS IMPOSSIBLE THAT THE BUILDINGS COLASPED FROM THAT FIRE.
17. WHY IS IT THAT FBI AGENTS WERESO FRUSTRATED THAT INFOR THYE WERESENDING BACK TO THE FBI HEADQUARTERS WAS BEING IGNORED.
18. WHY IS IT THAT MOHAMED ATTA ATTENDED SEVERAL DIFFERERT OFFICERS SCHOOLS.
19. WHY IS IT THAT THE PALIN THAT CRASHED IN PA HAD THE DEBRIE SPREAD OUT OVER MANNY MANY MILES, AS NUMEROUS IMPARTIAL CITIZEN EYE WITNESS ON THE GROUND SAW THE PLAIN EXPLODE IN MID AIR.
20. Colonel Donn de Grand-pre told John Lee, Alex Jones and Planet Earth that F16s from Happy Hooligans in North Dakota Air National Guard based in Langley Virginia claim to have shot down the Boeing 757 identified as "United Airlines Flight 93" on 9/11/2001 - Grand-pre later identified the name of the Hooligan who shot down UAL93 as Major Rick Gibney, who was honored by the Governor of North Dakota and the US Senate for his defense of Washington DC and US Congress on 9/11/2001
21. WHO DO YOU BELIEVE, THE NEOCONS
OR REAL PEOPLE WHO PUT THEIR ASS ON THE LINE TO GET OUT THE TRUTH BECASUE THEY ARE DISCUSTED WITH THE LIES AND GREED FOR OIL.
22. WHY IS IT THAT LARRY WILERSON, FORM CHIEF OF STAFF FOR COLLEN POWELL SAYS THAT HE WAS IN MEETINGS PRIOR TO 9/11 WHERE ALL THEY TALKED ABOUT WAS HOW THEY CAN GRAB THE MIDEAST OIL FIELDS, THAT WAS THERI SOLE PURPOSE.

I COULD GO ON AND ON AND ON.

THE EVEDINCE IS JSUT SO OVERWHELMING THAT ONE WOULD HAD TO BE SO IGNORANT OR BRAIN DEAD NOT TO SEE A CLEAR PICTURE OF WHAT HAPPENED.

THIS IS NOT THE FIRST TIME THEY HAVE PLANNED SUCH AN ADVENTURE, READ "OPERATION NORTHWOODS" ON THE INTERENT. IS SHOW YOU THE KIND OF MENTALLITY THE PENAGON IS CAPABLE OF.

Doug,

Regarding the Pentagon evidence, I'm troubled with the lack of debris as is a considerable number of other people. When we add in the size and depth of the hole punched through the building wall with the unscathed lawn that corresponds with the small explosion as shown in the five frames of video released, serious difficulties arise. Then we must factor in the fact that those two Pratt-Whitney engines are still missing.

Moving to the WTC, the amazing number of coincidences that one must accept in order for the government story to be believable defies logical examination. Moreover, any reasonable man would be unable to rationalize that the minor damage to WTC-7 could bring about such a marvelously neat and exact collapse. But when the building's lessee is on tape claiming to have had the building "pulled" which implies preplaced charges then the entire story begins to reek of complicity.

Doug, I guess that I am one of the minority, I have been employed by the FedGov for 29 years, and spent 11 years in the military, I have heard many conspiracy theories over the years about the FedGov and what they supposedly did, but one thing stands out, well more than one, People can't keep secrets, not if it is a large group of people anyway, and the biggest thing is just how incompetent our various government agencies are, in the vast majority agencies such as the FBI, who uses stoolpigions to solve their cases for them, or they take credit for what local law enforcement did, and the CIA which has a 90% rate for being wrong, the military isn't much better, as careerists fill the upper ranks, and have proved their incompetence over and over, face it, that the government actually does some things right should be cause for surprise.
People will continue to cry conspiracy, but never explain just how their theory could be accomplished, for example, just how could people wander around a building drilling holes in support columns, placing explosives, and stringings wires all over without someone noticing. I have seen the prep work required to bring down a building, it is not something that you could hide. and no one explaines just how an explosion in the basement could bring down the towers, remember that was already tried once, and it didn't work.
Having seen airplane accidents I am also not surprised that not much was left, people who expect neat holes in buildings in the shape of the A/C have been watching too many cartoons, real life isn't like that.
No fighters in the air to shoot down the hijacked A/C. Come on, get real 1) no one had any idea just what was on their minds, and 2) guess what, their haven't been any fighters on alert on the entire east coast for years, to scramble an A/C would take a while, esp. if they had to arm them, and even if they were in the air, the AF does not let traing flights go out with live weapons. and finally how are you going to convince the pilots that there is a need to shoot down a passenger plane.
Common sense people, common sense. Those who believe that 9/11 was a government plot also believe that the Murrah Federal Building was blown up by the FedGov, of course there was a dem president then.
What it boils down to is that people would rather believe that there is a conspiracy rather than that people are just plain incompetent, and that building can fall down if hit in the right spot.
Film from all over shows planes hitting the twin towers, and I saw video of the plane heading towards the pentagon, almost hitting the ground, and barely under control.
Face it, there are people who will gladly go to their deaths for what they think is a good thing. We in the western world may not understand it, but that does not mean it is not happening.
Finally, you can always find an "expert" to confirm your belief, and life is not like TV, there is no finsh in 60 minutes, and often times people refuse to see what is right in front of them

Doug, have you read 9/11 on Trial by Victor Thorn? It proves the controlled demolition aspect based on math and physics....not conspiracy theories. I personally don't see how anyone can watch those buildings come down and NOT believe in controlled demolition!

Doug, have you read 9/11 on Trial by Victor Thorn? It proves the controlled demolition aspect based on math and physics....not conspiracy theories. I personally don't see how anyone can watch those buildings come down and NOT believe in controlled demolition!

If one looks at a film I saw on the internet (there are several), you will see that the top structure on the roof of WTC 7 starts to collapse BEFORE the rest of the building does. This is baffling to me. If WTC 7 collapsed from fire on the lower floors, how did the top structure collapse so soon? To me this looks very much like a planned demolition, although I am no expert. I wonder if you asked an expert to view this and pointed out the action on the roof...that small structure on top.. what they would say about this question.

Not many "falling" with Doug here. Bravo. The twin towers were constructed with the highest quality steel, and presumably building 7 as well. The central question starts with the contention by a credible number of engineers that no steel buildings are known to have collapsed in upon themselves by fire alone. Is this a fact or not ? There is of course the post 911 evidence of skyscrapers ablaze and withstanding total destruction by fire (already alluded to above). This is the vital scientific question. The fact that all evidence was destroyed is another matter, but not really the point. We had 3 steel buildings falling in on themselves in a fairly short span of time, all at free fall speed. It would seem the "pancake theory" could not occur at free fall speed. Approaching this question scientifically is incumbant upon all of us. All of the other myriad "coincidences" give rise to the implications that spook our sense of logic. As for Bush knowing what was going down, it is entirely believable that he did not. But Cheney ?

Doug,

I certainly respect your right to your opinion. I've agreed with you many times in the past. But I think you are dead wrong on this one. I'll try to be brief:

The Pentagon: Very simply, if the official story is correct, why won't the FBI release the surveillance tapes from Pentagon, the Sheraton National Hotel, the Pentagon gas station, and V-DOT highway traffic cameras that captured the Pentagon attack on tape? We've all seen the planes crash into the WTC. Why not the Pentagon?

NIST: Why did the NIST "Global Collapse" theory stop before the actual collapse of the twin towers? Is it because the collapses don't fit into their model?

WTC 7: If it wasn't controlled demolitions, what brought down WTC 7? Even NIST, with millions of dollars at their disposal, can only offer a weak "preliminary report" on the WTC 7 collapse.

9/11 wargames: Several wargames were being run on the morning of 9/11 that related specifically to air defense and terrorists hijacking jets. Look up "Operation Northern Vigilance", "Operation Vigilant Guardian", "Operation Vigilant Warrior" and "NRO wargame 9/11". And who was in charge of the DOD wargames that day? Dick Cheney...

What I've touched on here is literally just the tip of the iceberg. There are hundreds of unexplained "anomalies" relating to 9/11. If you are really interested in finding out the truth, I would recommend these sites:

http://911research.wtc7.net/index.html
http://www.st911.org/
http://www.911truth.org/
http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/project.jsp?project=911_project
http://rigorousintuition.blogspot.com/2004/08/coincidence-theorists-guide-to-911.html

People ask what happend to WTC #7, well Mr. Silverstien him self said he decided to pull it. Meaning to bring #7 down. This was in a documentary on channel 13. Try Google, you just might find the clip.

Doug, please forgive the second post, but I just saw your earlier post regarding the fact you saw Loose Change. Was it the 2nd Edition? Whatever the case, thank you for doing that much at least. But if that excellent video did/does not prompt you to investigate further (preferably at st911.org or 911Truth.org) then your mind truly is hermetically sealed on 911.

People ask what happend to WTC #7, well Mr. Silverstien him self said he decided to pull it. Meaning to bring #7 down. This was in a documentary on channel 13. Try Google, you just might find the clip.

People ask what happend to WTC #7, well Mr. Silverstien him self said he decided to pull it. Meaning to bring #7 down. This was in a documentary on channel 13. Try Google, you just might find the clip.

Wedjat,
I am completely mystified about your comment about “believe as I believe” mentality. You are prepared to believe what Doug is spouting without looking at any other information.
I further fail to understand what, in your eyes & the eyes of many of the so-called readers rant posters constitutes ‘intelligence’. I have been amazed to find that people such as you are defining what civility & intelligence must be in order that you come out as the only ones with this spark of intelligence & everyone else must be hate mongers.
Personally, I believe you’ll find yourself better served in the ‘Reader’s Rant’ where those of us with diverse opinions are ostracized because we prefer to speak the truth & not be moderated by a bunch of pompous asses sitting thoughtfully intelligent and smoking pipes to show how civil we are.
Do you want the other sides of this question explored or do you just want us all to buckle down, have no real opinion, & buy what is spouted by those who are, surely, more intelligent than the rest of us?
Your failure to be informed does not make me a whacko.

Doug, I am disappointed, although not terribly surprised, by your most recent "rant". History, from the time of Julius Caesar through the world wars and the modern era, illustrates that a proper view of human events is one that is both cynical and conspiratorial in nature, rather than one that holds that things happen as they do due primarily to a combination of chance and incompetence. Power-hungry rulers take advantage of the incompetence of others, as well as the desire of most people to trust their masters to at least protect them, in order to advance their agendas!

Thompson's article should serve as a clarion call to all who read it -- Think for yourself, and in the end, trust only yourself, and adhere to what are (hopefully) your well-considered opinions! I observe from the comments that many readers feel a profound sense of betrayal; I do not feel betrayed, because I have learned, the hard way, to trust only myself, and to be self-reliant in every way, including (and especially) the manner in which I absorb and process information. One can only hope that, in the days to come, more and more people will learn to operate within a cocoon of skepticism, not only towards their elected officials, but towards ALL purveyors of information.

I know that the mantra "Trust no one" will remind readers of the X-Files, but the exhortation is by no means outlandish. Being on guard mentally is the first, and most important, step towards living as a free individual.

Can you explain why the son of a billioniare family would be running security at the World Trade Center?

After reading your articles for years I'm convinced you wrote this with a Homeland Security gun to your head.

I caught the update in my email and thought it had to be a joke. So, I came to the Website, hoping for a send-up of the "Official Story" of 9/11. But you are serious! Is this the same man who wrote of Bush's secret executive orders and stood up to the powers-that-be? I am shocked by your vehemence. To me it is just common sense that the official story doesn't add up. Early on there were nagging doubts (for me); why were fighter jets scrambled from Otis Air Force Base on Cape Cod? Wasn't there anything closer? (yes) If fighter jets can travel at twice the speed of commercial passenger jets, they should have been able to intercept the Boston based planes while they were still over water and make visual contact, as they are required to do by law when a plane veers off course and turns off all communications. But they didn't. WHY? Then, I read Mr. Griffen's book, and life has never been the same. I am deeply troubled by the seeming desperation of your rant, perhaps you don't WANT to believe this.

The problem in this debate, in this blog setting, is that Doug has hung himself out on the limb of "I will not, and I cannot". Or is it "I will not because I cannot", etc. I know what it's like to resist joining a club of believers, and I can say that "it takes one to know one". Your iconoclasm is useful up to a point, Doug; but however the technological realities eventually fall out (or down?), and however flaky some of the more wildly flailing conspiracy constructs seem, the underlying reality is that there was a kind of opportunistic and underhanded lay of the land, that the many complex interplays between different groups with overlapping agendas resulted in something very useful for the neo-con coup. So what is this "will not - cannot" thing?

Do we have to blame the messenger when we disagree with the argument. I've known Doug a long time and am convinced that he writes the truth. In this particular argument I found opposing information but there is no need to insult him.

Well Doug, I'm impressed. You must have cut the Mountain Dew out of your diet entirely, because your back in touch with reality.

Doug,

I certainly respect your right to your opinion. I've usually agreed with you in the past. But I think you are dead wrong on this one. I'll try to be brief:

The Pentagon: Very simply, if the official story is correct, why won't the FBI release the surveillance tapes from Pentagon, the Sheraton National Hotel, the Pentagon gas station, and V-DOT highway traffic cameras that captured the Pentagon attack on tape? We've all seen the planes crash into the WTC. Why not the Pentagon?

NIST: Why did the NIST "Global Collapse" theory stop before the actual collapse of the twin towers? Is it because the collapses don't fit into their model?

WTC 7: If it wasn't controlled demolitions, what brought down WTC 7? Even NIST, with millions of dollars at their disposal, can only offer a weak "preliminary report" on the WTC 7 collapse.

9/11 wargames: Several wargames were being run on the morning of 9/11 that related specifically to air defense and terrorists hijacking jets. Look up "Operation Northern Vigilance", "Operation Vigilant Guardian", "Operation Vigilant Warrior" and "NRO wargame 9/11". And who was in charge of the DOD wargames that day? Dick Cheney...

What I've touched on here is literally just the tip of the iceberg. There are hundreds of unexplained "anomalies" relating to 9/11. Don't listen to me. Dig deeper, and keep an open mind about it...

Planes of 911 Exceeded Their Software Limits

http://www.sianews.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=48

Sandy,
Doug is not the messenger. He created the message. Where are the insults. Just a lot of people who have trusted Doug for a long time refusing to be hoodwinked. I have read Doug for a long time &, whether or not I have always agreed with him, this time I don't see Doug. I really meant it when I asked who was writing Doug's rant now. I agree with others that, either there is a Homeland Security gun at Doug's head or, someone else is writing in Doug's place.

I disagree with you on this one, Doug and I hope you will not close the book on this case. I don't necessarily doubt that the named hijackers flew the jets into the twin towers, but many experts (read Steven E. Jones, Department of Physics and Astronomy at Brigham Young University) are now saying that this would not be sufficient to bring the buildings down. In addition, you have eye-witness testimony by emergency responders and the building janitor, reporting hearing explosions both before and after the planes hit. And you have video footage that clearly shows shaking of the buildings before the collapse, "squibs"during the collapse, and an apparent free-fall collapse velocity. Then you also have other odd facts, like a "drill" taking place the same day (just as in the London bombings), missing gold bullion,reports of floors being closed off by unidentified maintenance workers in the weeks prior to the attack, selling short stocks on the particular airlines involved, etc. It all adds up to something much larger, more involved, and even more dastardly than a small band of determined terrorists ramming planes into buildings. I have about as much faith in the official 911 report as I do in the Warren Commission report. We need a new investigation, now.

You handlers must have told you to take your recent position on the matter. I'm not surprised.

Doug, have been reading you column for a long time now and I've always been impressed with it...and you. But we've got to part ways on this one. Look at the responses you've received! You owe it to you readers to clear your mind of ANY preconceptions and approach ALL of the evidence with TOTAL OBJECTIVITY.

We all respect you a great deal Doug. Many of us have been researching this for some time. I worked across the stree from WTC and had to watch all unfold live. And I've spent every day since trying to understand how & why. But it's like finding a secret you wish you had never gone looking for. The weight of what I now believe happened that day is almost more than my soul can bear.

At the risk of sounding cliche...please take these words with the most sincerity... Please Doug; do for your devoted readers, do it for your family, do it for your country.

Doug..I have only one question.

Did you think this post would bring out the nutjobs in such force? I'm sorry, the conspiracy theorists. When you had that line in your rant yesterday about 911, I just knew you would be posting on the conspiracy theory..it was just sooner than later.

I agree with Doug, that doesn't mean your wrong and he's right. It means everyone is entitled to their opinion on this topic. Its a brutal fact that our government chose to ignore warning signs. Its a fact that this attack gave the Shrub more ammo than he could of imagined in his wildest dreams. But there aren't any substantial facts to prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that the Shrub and his minions were involved in any way,shape or form in the attacks. Conjecture keeps many of you up at night. Sometimes its a good thing, other times its not. I too believe the Shrub did nothing to prevent the attacks and once they occured everyone sat on their hands. I want to believe there was a conspiracy, more than anything I do. I watch all the documentaries online over and over..trying to beleive them. I just cant. The only thing I believe is our government stood by and watched like everyone else the horrific aftermath of those three planes. I think they got all the Saudi's out of the country to protect their worthless ass's.

I don't think Doug is going to back down no matter how hard you theorists rant. Thats the only thing I am sure of regarding this topic.

Dusty,
Try critical thinking. It does wonders for most of us "nut jobs".

I, unfortunately, cannot agree about this. The four questions that have NEVER BEEN ANSWERED are:

1. Why did No. 7 fall and why did it fall in exactly the same fashion as a building being demolished using thermite to melt the girders. No. 7 was not struck by anything on 9/11.

2. Why were't jets scrambled when the hijaacked airliners were not in communications for 45 minutes? This policy has been in place since the beginning of the cold war and jets are routinely scrambled 100+ times a year when airplanes fly into restricted airspace.

3. Where are photos of the jet that hit the Pentagon? It's hard to believe no debris was seen at the crash site.

4. Jet fuel burns at 1400 degrees farenheight, steel melts at 2800. Why did the towers and No. 7 fall when steel girders could not have melted by the fuel on the planes. There is a tape showing red hot steel taken from No. 7. How did this happen?

Going from there, who profited by 9/11? The BA and Israel.

No one questions 9/11 in the press. No one. Why?

I wish I knew.

Capitolhill Blues is awesome. I learn so much and agree with everything this site stands for except this. We deserve to know what really happened with 9/11. Unfortunately, I don't think this will ever come to pass.

Keep up the good work.

The official government accounts of what happened are the accounts that don't pass the smell test.
Too many holes, too many questions, too many wild coincidences.

You still believe that magic passport just conveniently survived the fireball and impact, and was miraculously discovered in the street below?

You believe the fellow who worked in WTC 1 is lying about the explosion in the basement that severely injured a fellow worker only a couple of minutes before the planes hit?

You believe that Bush was only misspeaking when he said he saw the first plane hit on video?

You believe the Secret Service would leave him in a classroom during a known engagement while a major terrorist attack was going on?

You believe that although the government was warned about the attack and the possible targets, they were just too incompetent to arrest the hijackers while they were training at flight schools?

You believe that it really was impossible for any of those planes to be intercepted within minutes after it became obvious that they had been hijacked?

You believe that a large passenger plane flown by an amateur pilot really did hit the pentagon in a feat of barnstormer flying? Skimming in just feet above the ground? I've seen news accounts that people claim they saw it, but claims can be fabricated. I've seen no proof. No proof, whatsoever.

Ever hear of Operation Northwoods?

Doug, I think you have one of the best well informed sites on the web. But on this one I feel you are dead wrong and disagree with you. There are too many discrepancies to pass it off as the work of Osama Bin Laden who incidentally was a CIA operative. 911 was the best thing that ever happened to the bush cabal. Prior to that he was a lame duck president with low approval ratings and more than half of the country doubting the legitimacy of his selection by the Supreme Ct. I know you don't want to believe that our government could create such a heinous crime but the facts prove otherwise. I will still continue to read your rant but with more skeptism. There is nothing that comes out of this cabal's mouth that I believe anymore and the white wash 911 commission was in on supressing the real story. Thankfully American's are waking up to the fact that we are being duped by the lies being prepetated upon us.

Anyone who believes that this government won't kill whoever it has to in order to acheive its aims simply isn't looking at the facts.

They've killed plenty of Americans in war, and plenty of civilian foreign nationals. Life is cheap to these people, at least other people's lives are.

They'll kill whoever they have to, foreign or American, to fulfill their neocon ideology.

Doug
As I said in a previous post;"Everyone has a price!"
What is yours? Who paid you your price to do this obvious disinformation piece. What political debts do you owe to do such a sham story. Maybe just a case of CYA.

With eyes to see and ears to hear, you must have been both blind and deaf to NOT acknowledge the video and scholarly PROOF of pre-planning for the WTC event.

Doug, maybe it is time for you to retire!

Arby
PS What real demolition experts did you talk to, or are they to remain "unnamed sources"?
BS piece Doug!

DOUG, UP TILL NOW I HAD A LOT OF RESPECT FOR YOU.

YOUR CREDIBLILTY JUST WENT DOWN THE OLD TERRACOTTA PIPE.

THE PEOPLE HAVE BEEN READING YOUR WEB SITE ARE NOT AS DUMB AS TO BELIEVE YOUR ARTICLE. MAYBE IT IS TIME TO GO BACK INTO RETIREMENT, I THINK YOU HAVE DONE A GREAT JOB TILL NOW, BUT MSUT BE BURNT OUT TO PRINT THIS NIAVE ARTICLE.

DOES ANYONE REMAMBER HOW CONDI RICE CAME ON TV AND SAID " WE HAD ABSOLUTLEY NO IDEA THAT ANYTHING LIKE THIS COULD HAPPEN" RIGHT

ARTICLE FROM THE BOSTON GLOBE

Agency planned exercise on Sept. 11 built around a plane crashing into a building
By John J. Lumpkin, Associated Press

WASHINGTON — In what the government describes as a bizarre coincidence, one U.S. intelligence agency was planning an exercise last Sept. 11 in which an errant aircraft would crash into one of its buildings. But the cause wasn't terrorism -- it was to be a simulated accident.

Officials at the Chantilly, Va.-based National Reconnaissance Office had scheduled an exercise that morning in which a small corporate jet would crash into one of the four towers at the agency's headquarters building after experiencing a mechanical failure.

The agency is about four miles from the runways of Washington Dulles International Airport.

Agency chiefs came up with the scenario to test employees' ability to respond to a disaster, said spokesman Art Haubold. No actual plane was to be involved -- to simulate the damage from the crash, some stairwells and exits were to be closed off, forcing employees to find other ways to evacuate the building.

"It was just an incredible coincidence that this happened to involve an aircraft crashing into our facility," Haubold said. "As soon as the real world events began, we canceled the exercise."

Terrorism was to play no role in the exercise, which had been planned for several months, he said.

Adding to the coincidence, American Airlines Flight 77 -- the Boeing 767 that was hijacked and crashed into the Pentagon -- took off from Dulles at 8:10 a.m. on Sept. 11, 50 minutes before the exercise was to begin. It struck the Pentagon around 9:40 a.m., killing 64 aboard the plane and 125 on the ground.

The National Reconnaissance Office operates many of the nation's spy satellites. It draws its personnel from the military and the CIA.

After the Sept. 11 attacks, most of the 3,000 people who work at agency headquarters were sent home, save for some essential personnel, Haubold said.

An announcement for an upcoming homeland security conference in Chicago first noted the exercise.

In a promotion for speaker John Fulton, a CIA officer assigned as chief of NRO's strategic gaming division, the announcement says, "On the morning of September 11th 2001, Mr. Fulton and his team ... were running a pre-planned simulation to explore the emergency response issues that would be created if a plane were to strike a building. Little did they know that the scenario would come true in a dramatic way that day."

Doug,
The bottom line is that no one with a physics degree can accept the official story. No emotion, no circular arguments can change that. The government only needs to produce an academically published peer reviewed paper backing the official story. The government has NASA and countless other agencies and departments with armies of scientists and engineers. Your government has failed to produce such academically published peer reviewed evidence. There is no rational physical explanation that can account for the official story.
What smells is the official story and no one who has taken high school physics can accept it.

Re: Old Ranger 68,

You certainly do read a lot into one comment.("Believe as I believe")

I was referring to those who went into rabid attack mode over Doug's opinion. Most of the comments that disagree with his views have simply been people's counter views...which may, or may not, be correct.

I have no idea what your views are...but you might want to consider calming down and not jumping to conclusions.

You are welcome to e-mail me to continue this discussion. If you're looking for a fight, I must warn you that I'm more likely to be amused than angered.

Am I seeing a division here where we are supposed to for or against Doug's Rants? In the last 10 years of my reading his stuff I have to admit I agree with him far more these last 5 years than I did the first 5.

Do we not have the ability to look at our government and agree with some of their actions but not all of them? I've come to the point that it would be a rare thing when I would agree with Bush but not lately. It is more difficult for me to disagree as I have been a Republican for 50 years and only ran from the party in 1992.

Even in the 10 years I have known Doug, I could never place him in one party or the other. It's hard to fight with somebody who has no firm partisanship! I do know he respects the truth and will always give it his best shot.

Oldranger, he did not write the message but merely gave us his own opinion of what has been a top priority in our discussions since the first books and tapes came out after 911.

We could just as easily have a discussion on the truth about UFOs. None of us knows the absolute truth about 911 or UFOs but it should not keep us from having an open and deep discussions.

Well... I'm skeptical of everything. But... In this matter all of the evidence seems to point to the fact that the failure to act on credible evidence was intentional and not due to incompetence.

Shure it's tough to actually think that our own gov could kill 3000 of it's own people.. after
all isn't it the "rant" the press and our gov shoved down our throats over Sadam's actions
(with gas purchased from the US) I guess that would put our gov on too much of a level playing field with a "tyrant".

Yet the actions of our gov that have taken place and will continue to drag us down into a further broken country, regardless of which "party" is in office, is exactly why they allowed and took part in the events of 9/11. Why they continue to rule with fear fear fear in the press and from the hill of criminals. Hoping that much of the masses will stay frozen in thier fear, and not become proactive to let thier gov know enough already!

When term limits are enacted for the senate and house, when they are given a reduced "retierment" where they "don't" get their heafty pay checks for life (after 3 years of retirement they should be cut back to 1/3 till dust do they part) maybe then
they will remember "they work for us"?!

Okay, my opinion and you stated yours, while I wish mine was in reality closer to yours.. not a chance with the family of criminals skirting the globe to con-tinually suck up to thier corp string pullers, and, will do "anything" (and have) to get and do what they want.. and that, is why, they took part and allowed 3000 Americans to die on 9/11 in short GREED for power and con-trol with only "camear op" fake concern and emotions for those still in the fear zone they created and control.

Well... I'm skeptical of everything. But... In this matter all of the evidence seems to point to the fact that the failure to act on credible evidence was intentional and not due to incompetence.

"Reasonable doubts about the Kennedy and King deaths exists to this day because of striking conflicts of reports from witnesses on the scene and the existence of credible evidence from experts that refute the "offiical" versions. But the many theories surrounding 9/11 come mostly from conspiracy buffs. I have yet to get a report from a structural engineer or demolitions expert that support the theories of internal explosions and too many witnesses saw the planes. If an engineer or expert with credentials that could be verified came forward I might be willing to take another look at this but in the absence of such, I'll go with the conclusions of experts I trust."

Please see the story at this link:
http://www.septembereleventh.org/newsarchive/2004-11-11-ryan.php

Doug, do you know of this or can you verify this story. This one has chaffed in the back of my mind since 9/11. This man, an engineer, an expert on metalergy and the twin towers, part of the team that was responsible for certifying the structural integrety of the buildings, has serious doubts that fire was the sole reason for collapse. I'm not sure as to his reputation or motives, but at first glance this seems to satisfy as a challenge to the paragraph I quoted above.

Mike

For those of you who seem to want to dissagree with Doug - try reading it again and note that he only says our so called government didn't orchestrate 9/11 - nowhere does he say they weren't responsible, in fact he points out that they were responsible (make that irresponsible) in a multitude of ways.

The conspiracy, if there is one, involves either gross negligence - or at worst, overt complicity - by people at the highest level of the U.S. government. As to those who say, "why would any American leader allow such an attack to be carried out?" consider these two points:

1. While they may have known, and reasonably should have known, that an attack was imminent, even if they were overtly complicit, they would take great pains to have plausible deniability, and as such, would make sure they knew as little as possible. They did not want, nor need to know that a mass casualty attack was in the offing. This proposition becomes far more plausible if they genuinely did not know the magnitude of what was in store on 9/11. But even if they strongly suspected another run-of-the-mill truck bombing at an embassy overseas was imminent, and did nothing to prevent it, it's still treason.

2. They obviously had a pre-existing agenda for intervention in the middle east, and the attacks gained them the "political capital" they needed to steamroll their plans through with almost no opposition.

The idea that bombs would be planted & detonated AFTER airliners slammed into the towers is ludicrous. Anyone who planned an effort on that level would surely have figured out that it would be better to detonate the explosives first, and if that did not bring the buildings down, then use the planes to finish the job. Otherwise the planes could have been crashed into other targets. The puffs of smoke seen as the towers collapsed, and attributed by some to the detonation of explosives, were nothing more than smoke being pushed out through random weak spots in the windows by the column of compressed air created by the collapse.

As for WTC-7, most photos, and the video of the collapse, show the undamaged side facing away from the twin towers. But there are one or two photos taken after the collapse of WTC-1 & 2, that show how heavily damaged the side of WTC-7 that faced the twin towers actually was. That heavy damage, plus the unusual construction (built on a cantilevered structure above a Con-Ed substation and large tanks of diesel fuel) eventually doomed WTC-7.

As for the Pentagon, there are very detailed photos that clearly show the impact marks where the outer sections of the wings hit - but only gouged & dented - the recently reinforced section of the building. The penetration that was made represents the area of the fuselage & engines of an airliner, which were the only sections massive enough to penetrate. The impact essentially shredded all but the most solid parts (landing gear & turbine cores), and inertia carried almost all the wreckage deep within the building.

All this diversion over bombs in buildings is a distraction from the real issue, as with Nixon, "What did they know, and when did they know it?"

clarification:
"The idea that bombs were planted ahead of time, but then detonated AFTER airliners slammed into the towers is ludicrous."

Good god folks, wanting it to be a conspiracy does not make it so. I have seen the conspiracy videos, I have read extensively on the conspiracy theories (a friend is a true believer and sends me everything he sees), and I have read the 9/11 Commission's report, James Bamford's "Pretext" and numerous essays, newspaper stories, magazine articles, you name it. But, so far, I haven't seen one piece of evidence that points to the Bushies being behind this - not one.
Being skeptical of the official version but losing that skepticism when looking for a conspiracy strikes me as being intellectually dishonest.
The real reason the 9/11 attacks happened without any interference from the Bush administration is due to their narrow-minded "vision" and their overwheening hubris. They're a bunch of morons, corrupt and stupid, they ignored the warnings because the terrorist scenario just didn't fit into their backward-looking, Cold War, statist mentality.
In short, they're just too damn stupid to have pulled it off so well.

Gladly wedjat. Not looking for fights. If I jumped to conclusions perhaps its that you didn't arrive a one. I don't want to fight you or anyone else, necessarily (although I do enjoy a good fight occassionally), But this topic is much too important for the 'gentlemanly intelligence". How do I e-mail you? Is there some device in this box which reveals your e-mail address? If I jumped the gun I will apologize to you publicly here. Not because I am a gentleman, per se, but because I would not want to lead others to malign you if I was wrong.

Bush is supremely stupid. THEY are not! The results are what were calculated. Bush presents the face THEY want the world to see.

Oh.

THE 9/11 COMMISSION REPORT ONE YEAR LATER...
A CITIZENS’ RESPONSE – DID THE COMMISSION GET IT RIGHT?

Hell, no.

http://www.gnn.tv/B12001

Doug, I am a relatively new reader, but I noticed right away that you are generally on the right track, but you are incredibly uninformed MOST of the time, not just today. Not only were you unequipped with facts, but your refutations were completely irrelevant. All of the main points, with many frivolous declarations, have been covered already by your readers. I am not a theorist: I do not know what happened on 9/11. The following are facts:

1. The owner of the WTC complex said in clear language on national television that building 7 was purposefully demolished. End of discussion, but I'll go on.

2. Secret Service acted against protocol by not protecting the president of the United States, whenever it is unknown if he is a potential target. The Secret Service would have assumed Bush was a potential target in all circumstances save for that they knew the attacks would occur.

3. As many as 5 of the 19 hijackers are still alive and were not in the United States on 9/11, but saw their name and picture on television. It has been officially acknowledged that there is no certainty as to who hijacked the planes.

4. The federal government had developed 9/11-esque plans to gain public support for a Cuban invasion in the 60s ("I cannot-I will not"). Even you haven't been a government insider for that long, Doug.

5. No one has lost more as a result of 9/11 than rank-and-file al Qaeda and the peoples of Afghanistan and Iraq. Nobody, anywhere in the world, has gained from it--apart from the Bush administration and friendly corporations (no, not even Israel). Key members of said administration were authors or signers of PNAC paper saying they would gain from such an event, which happened within 1 year of said administration taking power. If you answer one thing, Doug, give an example of one single greater coincidence in all human history.

Your idea of refuting the notion of government complicity/execution of the attacks is that some say bombs were used or that the planes never even hit. You have completely missed the point.

Unlike most of your readers, I don't think you'll win me back after this one. As a journalist, it is irresponsible of you to take a stand on such an important and controvertible issue, when you declare you will not believe one side, no matter what. Your research is meaningless if that is your attitude. If you had any credibility left, you squandered it by twice using someone's democratic affiliation to give them credibility. Who do you think you're talking to? If you don't retire, you should at least take a sabbatical, and reflect on what it means to be a commentator, to be someone that people around the country look up to for your objectivity. You certainly should not keep this line of work up, if this is the kind of disservice you will subject your readers to in future collumns. Shame on you, Doug.

Doug,
Please read the books or articles (like the following) from David Ray Griffin. He is a well respected author, researcher and theologian who has definitely concluded that the ONLY way 9/11 was carried out was because it was an inside job.
http://911truth.org/article.php?story=20051205150219651

I'm surprised Doug opened this for a discussion, and even allowed any feedback. A few weeks back after trying this type of feedback to his Rant news articles, he went ballistic saying, something to the effect "that this ain't no blog", and that he's the head bean of his site etc.. So today I see this Rant article and hear him, discrediting government complicity in the 911 tragedy. We do know that Bushco lost interest in Afghanistan, and the pursuit of OBL rather quickly, and then launched a war based on cooked, "engineered" intelligence on Iraq, now they are badgering Iran. My research tells me that Pappy Bush compromised the C.I.A. during his tenure as director, and continued his C.I.A. involvement as V.P.. The Bush family have turned "their" never-ending Middle East conflagration's into a "cash cow" for their buddies in the M.I. Complex. Just connect the dots, follow the money and you smell mind-boggling corruption in the highest places of this government.
Three links that are food for thought in themselves concerning our government and it's leader's are an example of America getting the worst possible government for their tax dollars.
We are the victim's of a script written by a shadow government; known as "international social psycho-drama" It keeps the "groundlings" spinning their excercise wheel. Btw that's what Pappy Bush refers to the electorate as..."groundlings"...; I guess it means we be "prey"?!

Gulf War One was a setup as well as Gulf War II!

http://www.chss.montclair.edu/english/furr/glaspie.html http://www.guardian.co.uk/iran/story/0,12858,1678220,00.html
http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/a3b62939c74d4.htm

To even think they would be involved in 911 is mind-numbing to say the least, but that's precisely why they knew they could pull it off. If it had been revealed in the 40's that Roosevelt had prior knowledge that Pearl Harbor was going to be attacked there would have been an old fashioned lynching in D.C., but they were able to keep a lid on the government's complicity well into the 70's when stories started to emerge. Today with the web, and the speed with which information can be shared and transferred it doesn't take long for skeptics to build a case. If America survives these mattoid's that are now in control, maybe the absolute truth shall emerge in years to come, but not now for sure. Anyone that came up with written corroboration, or voice recordings of their complicity would be a dead man or woman, along with their entire families, mob style. The reason they are doing so well is the mainstream press;i.e., the big boy's have been compromised too for the most part. They'l cram Monika and Bill's tryst down our collective throats egging on impeachment, but concerning Bushco, with all the revelations' that have been made public, there's minimal to no media outcry, at least not anything that's going to cause Bushco "serious" grief.
My apologies to Doug for my "wacko" opinions.

Carl Nemo, Washington State

Doug,

You are 100% wrong on this one. I've long enjoyed your work, but you couldn't be further from the truth. I'm not sure if it's cognitive dissonance or what, but if you do even one-hour of investigative research on this, you'll see the truth. A good place to start is a book entitled 9-11 ON TRIAL which uses nothing but science, math, and physics to prove that the WTC towers (1, 2, 7) were leveled via a controlled demolition.

http://www.wingtv.net/911ontrial.doc/911ontrialindex.html

Yes, Doug, this is a matter of taking our country back from a cabal of bloodthirsty murderers. I certainly hope you open your eyes to what's taking place.

There are just as many pilots and engineers who say just the opposite.

We cannot afford at this point in our history to turn our government over to the utterly ruthless individuals who currently occupy the WhiteHouse, simply because we are too afraid to examine the ecidence. Denial is born from fear, and refusing to openmindily examine the evidense, "because our government would not kill it's own citizens" is simply a fear based reaction.

By sending over our fathers, mothers, sons and daughters to die in a (based on lies) war in Iraq is proof enough that they have no problems in killing it's own citizens for their agenda.

And there's a lot of money to be made in war and fear.

Seriously, people you don't think that the 'government' could do bad things to it's own citizens? Look at the history of medical testing, testing by government subcontractors. Nuclear testing...the list goes on. Your fairy tail programming is so intense any time you think that the government could do something to it's citizens you shake your head in disbelief and your gut feelings tell you that’s not possible... IT WILL DO ANYTHING TO IT'S CITIZENS IN THE NAME OF SO CALLED PROGRESS...

"The biggest Government conspiracy is to claim that there are no Government conspiracy theories"
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com
The Secret Service did nothing. The dog did not bark.

The 'Fear Of Muslims' Conspiracy Theory
http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/march2006/310306fearofmuslims.htm
...just where all these fearful Islamic terrorists are? Would we have caught some in the net at Guantanamo Bay? Turns out not to be the case, unless you think delivery drivers, chicken farmers, sack makers and taxi drivers are hell-bent on blowing up stuff.

"Evidence linking these Israelis to 9/11 is classified."
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/spyring.html
"I cannot tell you about evidence that has been gathered. It's classified information." -- US official quoted in Carl Cameron's Fox News report on the Israeli spy ring and its connections to 9-11.

re: "The owner of the WTC complex said in clear language on national television that building 7 was purposefully demolished."

What an ironic choice of words that Larry Silverstein (a real estate developer) used to suggest that the building should be abandoned: "Pull it," which also happens to be a slang term used by demolition mechanics.

What an amazing goof it must have been that Silverstein, part of a conspiracy to blow up WTC-7, without even giving it a second thought, just blurted out the words "Pull it" and never thought anything of it.

Or maybe he had no reason to give it a second thought, because Silverstein isn't a demolition mechanic, and never meant "blow up the building."

Here's what Silverstein actually said to the FDNY: "We've had such terrible loss of life, maybe the best thing to do it pull it."

So, in this context, does "it" mean the building (set off the explosive charges we secretly planted), or is it more likely that "it" means risk no further loss of life with any more rescue effort (which at that moment, there were no firefighters in WTC-7) and abandon the building?

It's been 1,656 days since George WMD Bush said he'd catch Usama Bin Laden 'Dead or Alive!'

I say he's dead!

The US Government should be "brought to justice" for the Third World War! If Americans won't revolt, then the rest of the world will!

You were playing devil's advocate right?

Look at this doug.. I would say 90% of the people here totaly dis-agree with you. and this is saying alot, espeically comapred to your other post, which you have no evidence of and yet most people still keep an open mind and respect what you say.

You are way off on this one, way off, and by the responces of people here, we ALL already know.

Look at this recent cnn poll

Yes 84% 39009 votes
No 16% 7363 votes

http://edition.cnn.com/POLLSERVER/results/23968.exclude.html

People know the truth, and all you are doing here is ruining your crediblity. Good luck with your site. I am done viewing it

Didn't the Project for A New American Century say they needed a "New Pearl Harbor" to rally the American People behind War with Saudi Arabia, Iraq, Iran, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Wasn't the WTC full of asbestos? Didn't they have to tear it down anyway? Wasn't Bush warned on 8/6/01? Cui Bono? Muslims or Neo Con Zionists?

The poll question was..

Do you agree with Charlie Sheen that the U.S. government covered up the real events of the 9/11

Doug,

WTF is wrong with you man?

Larry Silverstein admitted on camera that Building 7 "was pulled".

http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/cutter.html

Did George Bush just walk up and hand you a wad of cash - fresh of the presses at the treasury office where they are printing uncounted trillions day and night?

Did Dick Cheney offer to take you quail hunting?

Man you must have fallen on your head.

I will never be back to your site again.

Doug,

You are absolutely correct. My belief after considering this matter carefully for five years is that directly after 9/11 a 'public relations crisis response team' was assembled. Their goal was to discredit any investigation into the events leading up to 9/11, in particular the Presidential failure to take action based on reliable warnings of an impending terrorist attack.

The President and his advisors are guilty of either gross incompetence, criminal negligence, or (worst case) passive acceptance of terrorist attacks. They knew full well that such attacks would allow the President to initiate foreign wars, that they would distract attention from the looming Enron scandal (Bushes #1 political backer), etc.

The well-publicized stories of bombs in the WTC, missles hitting the Pentagon, and planes vanishing in midair are all likely products of the PR crisis response team (the same kind of team that rolls into action after any major corporate disaster). The 'straw man' strategy is a classic Karl Rove-type smear campaign. The goal is simply to discredit any investigation and to protect the President. This explains why these efforts have been so well-funded and have recieved wide media attention. I think that if some 'secret government agency' wanted to fake a terrorist attack on US soil (a fairly ludicrous notion) they could have done so in a much simpler manner (a truck bomb, for example).

It is likely that US military planes did actually respond quickly to reports of hijacking, but that the hijackers managed to initially convince them that they were returning to the airport in a 'normal' hijacking scenario. This explains the flight path of #77, which looked like it was heading in to land at Ronald Reagan Intl airport when it deviated at the last minute and curved into the Pentagon. At this point the shoot down order was likely given; my guess is that flight 93 was shot down by a US military jet. Keep in mind that military members sign away their free speech rights when they join the military. This is tragic, and we can't blame the pilots - but we can blame Bush for failing to act on the Aug 6th PDB as well as for ignoring the many warnings coming out of FBI field offices in Phoenix and Minnesota.

To conclude, my firm belief is that 9/11 would have been prevented if Gore (our actual elected President) had been allowed to take office. The actions of the President leading up to 9/11 constitue, at the very least, criminal negligence and gross incompetence. He deserves impeachment and imprisonment, along with his cabal of advisors and fellow travelers.

2 + 2 = 5

A CIA office operating at 7 World Trade Center was destroyed when the building came down after planes crashed into the twin towers?
http://archives.cnn.com/2001/US/11/04/inv.newyork.cia.office/
The official said the destroyed CIA office was engaged in counterterrorist and counterintelligence operations.

On 9/11, CIA Was Running Simulation of a Plane Crashing into a Building
http://www.thememoryhole.org/911/cia-simulation.htm
"It was just an incredible coincidence that this happened to involve an aircraft crashing into our facility," Haubold said. "As soon as the real world events began, we canceled the exercise."

C'mon America!

Okay Doug,
In your rant, "Bush Declares War on Freedom of the Press", you pulled the plug on us because too many people were disagreeing with your contradictory rant. Are you about to do it again. Just when people were starting to bring up very valid facts you declared too many 'nutjobs' had hijacked the rant &, to protect the sensitive emotions of your blind followers you pulled us.
This has been the best forum I have ever seen here. Very few people have been disrespectful of you but have, apparently, done much more 'real investigative' research than have you.
Now they're starting to come out with the "My God, people" & 'don't shoot the messenger' lines.
Their sensibilities are in overload! Please don't 'pull' it now. There may be some nutcakes here, me included, but, if you don't hear the nutcakes you learn nothing.
From what I have been reading MOST of these 'nutjobs' are damned intelligent!

Doug.
Who got to you? Did you forget what Bush said about seeing the first plane hit?
Did you forget the thousands of put options?
Did you not see the reports on faked photos of the Pentagon rescue operations?
Did you miss the photos of the wheel rim and jet engine turbine ring that did NOT come from a Boeing of ANY size?
Did you not see and hear the video of Silverstein calling to "pull it"?
Did you miss the videos of the explosive squibs?
Your observations don't mean much to ME anymore.
Good bye and good luck.

I've agreed with you 99% of the time, but you're wrong about this one. If you're serious about having an open mind, start with Prof. Steven Jones' recent work, then David Ray Griffin's devastating critique of the 911 Commission, then graduate to Mike Ruppert's Crossing the Rubicon where he follows the money and goes into detail about the military standing down. Check out Daniel Hopsicker's work on the FBI agents ordered to keep their hands off the hijackers. Look into Sibel Edmonds story. It's not about the eye witnesses or computer simulations you saw (judgement based on a sample of evidence rather than its totality is a logical error of composition) nor is it about Charlie Sheen, Ed Asner, Alex Jones or the "crazies." It's about evil men doing evil things in plain sight, as with JFK, RFK and MLK, and getting away with it because "honorable men" said it didn't happen. Reconsider your position, look at the good evidence, then get back to us.

Gore would not have done one thing differently except that he could have, conceivably, come off looking a little better. You are demarcating party lines and they all are in the NWO pocket. Remember, Gore invented the internet.

I am one of the chorus that believes 9/11 was an inside job. Be that as it may, it's probably a good thing that the theory is not widely accepted. Can you imagine the anarchy and complete social breakdown in this country if it were widely accepted. I am curious Doug, did you see aircraft wreckage at the Pentagon? The official explanation for the lack of wreckage is liquefaction. If that is true, how come the damage was so confined. Going from one state of matter to another releases energy. Now we are talking about tons of material in a Boeing 757-200 airliner. If liquefaction occured the release of energy would have been more devistating than what actually occurred. Why was there no damage to the surrounding lawn? Why was the exit hole on the other side of building so small and symmetrical? Why were was all security videos from surrounding businesses confiscated within a few hours of the attack, never to be seen again. These are just a few of the anomalies that are in question. I too did not believe the conspiracy theories, until I started looking at photographs of the Pentagon after the disaster. Like I say, it's probably better that it is not widely accepted as being an inside job. Sometimes ignorance really is bliss.

Great job, Ross! Very, very well said.

If anyone doesn't believe that our government is capable of pulling off such an event and blaming it on someone else for the purposes of changing public opinion, they have never heard of the Hegelian Dialect: Problem. Reaction. Solution. In order to implement an unpopular solution (war and greater control over the American people ), the proper reaction (fear) is needed among the masses in order to make the solution acceptable. That is accomplished with the implementation of a problem (the "attacks"). All they have done for the last five years is try their best to keep the American people scared of terrorists, and use that fear to take liberty and freedom from the American people in the name of security.

"They that are willing to give up essential liberty for the promise of security deserve neither liberty nor security." Ben Franklin

Neither are they aware of the Northwoods Document to which Ross refers above. It is a government document that describes US government plans to crash planes and blow up buildings and blame it on the Cubans in order to justify an attack on Cuba. Sound familiar?

Ross also mentions the PNAC papers that called for a Pearl Harbor-like event only a few months before 9/11/01.

And, I heard Silverstein say that building seven was "pulled" on that PBS broadcast.

And, NORAD stood down on that day - the first NORAD stand-down in their history.

A Boeing 757 fitting into a 16-foot hole... No human remains from any passenger on either aircraft... Nothing but a hole in the ground in Pennsylvania... Surveillance camera footage of the attack on the Pentagon that was confiscated and that has not been released to this day... Too many coincidences for my taste.

Conspiracy theory? Conspiracy FACT! It is only a theory if there is no hard evidence. The evidence abounds.

It will happen again, too. They have already made that clear, "...It isn't a matter of if, but when..."

Mr Thompson,
Contempt prior to investigation does not seem to be your forte.I know you are very angry and disgusted,but remember even the smallest spark can burn down a mountain!For your own and loved ones' safety in this rapidly approaching totalitarian USA it must've been prudent to write what you did,thereby protecting your "freedom" of speech.However all Conspiracy Theory,Contradictory Eyewitness/Physical evidence aside,and almost million to one odds multiple coincidences.....in your heart of hearts do you really believe that 9-11 as it happened is beyond the purview of the unimaginable evil that verily rules our World?

Doug,

Again, I congratulate you on your clear thinking and your dedication to democratic principles of government. I think I need to make my points a bit more clear (given that they seem to be in the minority).

First of all: the hijackers. We can't be sure of exactly who they were, but they all came from countries 'allied' to the US (Egypt and Saudi Arabia). Here we see signs of careful planning: such individuals stand a better chance of being admitted to the US. Secondly, they all used cover stories - drinking booze, behaving un-Islamically, etc. Nevertheless, FBI agents (tipped off by flight school instructers apparently) became suspicious. As the current trial of M. demonstrates, their warnings were ignored - these field agents (true American patriots) were even warned off the case by their superiors!

Second - the day of the events. According to many of the above 'conspiracy theorists' US jets were supposed to blow four airliners out of the sky, killing over 800 American citizens - when those hijackers clearly indicated that they were returning to the airport. Hmmm... we see in the new defense procedures the absolute primacy of preventing hijackings from taking place. Well- that is indeed a good strategy. Too bad it wasn't implemented on Aug 7th, 2001.

Third- the panicked response of the US government. Bush was flying all over the country like a jackrabbit on speed. What was he doing? One guess: he was pinning medals on the chests of the pilots who had to shoot down flight 93. Another guess: he was desperately conferring with his advisors as to how to spin this horror in the press.

Fourth- Compare this to the recent bombings in hotels in Jordan, where the government forced it's security team to resign in mass (I think the top 9 heads rolled). Why wasn't anyone fired after 9/11?

Fifth- people who try and use 'physics arguments' to bolster the case for the PR nonsense (the WTC, etc.) are just trying to lend an air of scientific credibility to this PR spin business. Aircraft are largely aluminum except for their steel engines; thus the steel engines will penetrate further then the aircraft body. NOVA made a very good documentary on the collapse of the towers themselves, full of actual credible engineering analysis that I found quite convincing (yes, I am a highly trained scientist).

Doug, thanks for bringing this matter up. I agree with you 100%. Keep up the good work, and ignore the trolls and PR specialists. Everyone else - think for yourselves!

Doug-
Thank you. You have good judgement. I can tell you really looked into this.
Everyone else-
The so-called '9/11 Truth Movement' is a foolish distraction.

Could it be Thompson is back on the sauce? 19 hijackers led by a cave dwelling madman armed with nothing but boxcutters. Please, give me a break!!! May I suggest you see your doctor Doug. Could be you have brain damage from all those years of drinking or perhaps delayed DT's. What a phony you turned out to be.

Anybody that can look at Building 7 (CIA headquarters) come down and say that this is not a controlled demo is lying to you. DOUG.
How many times has this government lied to us?

Thoughtcriminal-

Regarding your statement about jets being supposed to blow Americans out of the sky:

Not necessarily. I believe it's SOP for fighter aircraft to fall in and 'escort' hijacked craft. Oddly enough, even that did not happen.

On another point, neither you nor I know where Bush really was on the day of the hijackings. So the press tells you he was flying all over the country. Great. They say what they are told. But it means not much of anything.

As far as the Pentagon goes, I'm still not prepared to grant that a pilot who is for all intents and purposes untrained on large passenger aircraft would be able to come in at near ground level after a sharp bank and a steep dive and hit the building the way the object did. I won't say I refuse to believe that it was a plane (though I've seen no solid evidence that it was, and the administration won't release any video proof) but I seriously doubt that it was an untrained pilot at any rate.

But then, neither am I prepared to believe in magic passports, or in suicide crews who take along luggage with flight manuals inside.

Luggage? Flight manuals IN the luggage? What?

Seems to me that a flight manual in a suitcase is of far more use to whoever discovers the luggage than to whoever is supposed to be flying the plane.

Seems to me, that if the government had official warning that Al Qaeda planned on ramming planes into buildings (and they did) yes, they'd shoot down hijacked aircraft. Seems unlikely that taking a hijacker at his word because he's supposedly an honest guy would be too appropriate.

If nothing else, the whole scenario reeks of complicity. And fact is, when one is complicit, it hardly matters if they did it themselves or only enabled someone else to do it.

Hi, Doug:

As a longtime subscriber to CHB and a fan of your daily Rants, I've been waiting for you to do a piece on 9/11. I must say, however, I was completely taken aback by today's screed.

The graf that stopped me cold was this one:

"However, I cannot - and will not - join the chorus of those who claim the terrorist attacks on the World Trade Center and Pentagon on September 11, 2001, were an inside job staged by the Bush administration, the Central Intelligence Agency or anyone else connected with our government. I cannot - and will not - be a party to those who claim the buildings were destroyed not by hijacked airliners but by explosives planted inside the structures."

With all due respect, Doug, that sounds to me like you've closed your mind completely to even the "possibility" of US government involvement in 9/11 -- not a good stance for a newsman of your caliber.

May I humbly suggest that you develop new sources; talk to the physicists who do say the Twin Towers and WTC-7 were brought down by controlled demolitions and the firemen who were in the towers when the cutter charges went off; think "outside the nine dots;" trust your instinct instead of your intellect -- and revisit the enormous amount of evidence with, above all, an open mind.

There are just too many anomalies in the "official" story to make it believable to anyone who delves deeply into the events of 9/11.

Venture further down the rabbit hole, and I think you'll begin to see what the vast majority of today's posters are talking about.

Start with David Ray Griffin's work.

Good Hunting!

~rck

I suspicious. Did someone have a talk with Doug? Someone from the NSA, etc? Did someone get to Doug?

Man, I have been reading the "Rants" for about two years now. This has to be the greatest response I have seen. Doug has to realize that nearly everything he now rants about is a direct consequence of 9-11. Without 9-11, I believe his rants would be a lot less ranty.

As far as physical evidence, one can bring out "experts" on both sides until the cows come home and no minds would be changed from one's personal view. My view on this whole thing is that destruction of three insured buildings and 3,000 lives is a small price to pay to consolidate power and war/oil profiteering. Sounds perfectly reasonable for an adminstration we readers of CHB can all agree is totally despicable.

That is my only beef with Doug on this subject. He calls this adminstration everything but a child of God yet seems gives them a pass on 9-11 by saying they are too inept to perform such an act. Well, I will agree that they are inept but 9-11 is the one thing they did right.

I'm suspicious. Did someone have a talk with Doug? Someone from the NSA, etc? Did someone get to Doug?

Doug, much like everyone else who reads your columns on a regular basis, I am disappointed in your failure to objectively view the facts and cirumstances of the 9/11 case. The only thing you've said that cannot be argued is that growing number of "theorists" are indeed a "chorus." At least you realize this is no fringe issue, discussed only by a minority.

With that said, I am not here to repeat the voluminous amount of information that has already been presented to you and that should be raising questions in your mind, at at least some encouragement on your part to create a truly independent investigation, but to question your supposed "evidence," which inclines you to disagree with so many...

First, you claim you were "at the Pentagon the day the plane hit, taking pictures and interviewing witnesses." From your decisive tone, it appears you consider these photos and eyewitness accounts to be evidence in support of Bu$hCo's version of events. If this is the case, and you feel these documents and images lend credence to your claims (and premature dismissal of opposing ideas, to boot), I DEMAND, for the sake of all that is good, that you politely "put up or shut up." Either release these images and your transcribed testimonies, in their entirety, to the public so they may be scrutinized and verified, and tell us what their significance is. Do they depict evidence of a plane hitting the Pentagon, or of charred corpses at the site? What? Surely you do not expect the intelligent, progressive readers that come here to accept your claims at face value, when you have spent so much time teaching us to do otherwise?

As for your witnesses: your claims are unsubstantiated poppycock, unless you provide references and verifiable contacts. If you are the journalist you claim to be, cite your sources, or I will assume you are a liar, and that no such persons exist.

1. Cab driver who saw Flight 77 "swoop low" and had his cab damaged by a light pole.

Who is this man? What is his name, his cab #, and the company he works for? Surely you wouldn't have missed that information, and surely you have no problem providing it to us so we can verify it with his company. If his cab was indeed damaged in this act, the company must have filed a claim with local police and with their insurance companies, all facts that should be verifiable. You have provided nothing of the sort.

2. An "Arlington businessman still haunted by the nightmares of what he saw."

If this man exists, and if in fact he was witness to this heinous crime, and happened to be in the vicinity of the cab accident, he must have been questioned by police at the scene, which is the only way to explain why he would still be near the Pentagon by the time you arrived. And if police had him report on and confirm the cab incident, then said report ought to be on record in that precinct. Where can we get these documents, Doug, and why have you not released the details of their testimony?

3. "I interviewed dozens of others who saw the plane hit.

Dozens? Names, please. If these people were willing to speak to you on the record, they must have provided names. If you did not get them, you are no journalist.

As for your other claims, you say you smelled jet fuel: irrelevant and unprovable, and therefore useless.

"I stood in a lab at the National Institute of Standards and Technology in Maryland as an engineer I've known for 25 years ran the computer simulation that shows how the unique construction of the World Trade Center towers contributed to the inevitable collapse after the planes hit."

Again, put up or shut up. You state a case, but no names or dates. Furthermore, it is widely known that NIST's "simulation" only tracked the building up to its point of collapse, and did not explain whatsoever their nearly "free fall" velocity, the pulverization of glass and concrete, or how the "woman at the abyss" could have stood in the craters the planes had caused just minutes earlier if the flames were as hot as they say. NIST did the government's bidding, and based their entire exercise on the official line. B.S.

"Everything that I've learned from these folks (firemen, police officers and first responders in New York City and then with friends who have worked in the American and foreign intelligence communities)...support the facts that Al Qaeda planned and executed the attacks."

Really? What did you learn, Doug? You've failed to tell us. What is this indisputable evidence you've received from people two years later that leads you to rule out any other possibilities? What proof did ordinary people, who had no access to black boxes, airplane fragments, etc. have that was so convincing? I demand you release your testimony to the public, or I will assume you are, once again, a liar.

"The maneuvers made by the hijackers on September 11 were relatively simple course corrections that are not that difficult in planes equipped with modern navigational computers."

Horseshit. The government itself claims Flight 77 made an ultra-sharp turn and banked at 6-7 Gs, a speed that could have killed those aboard and caused the plane to break up in mid-air. This was no course correction, and I seriously doubt now that you have EVER watched "Loose Change," as that documentary shows, visually, the alleged path of the 767.

"Some evidence uncovered during the investigations say the hijackers originally wanted to hit the Potomac River side of the Pentagon where Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld's office is located but that would have required more difficult navigation to miss the Washington Monument."

This has NEVER been stated before by either the Truth Movement or by the MSM. Where do you get this shit?

"They say video of the collapse [of WTC7] suggests it was imploded by an internal explosion. I asked demolition experts and structural engineers to watch video footage from several angles."

Names, please. "Experts" can say what they like, too, by the way, and still be wrong. And unless they have actually studied the collapses and have offered written testimony and subjected it to peer review, it holds no scientific merit. In any event, I want names, Doug.

"The NIST study, conducted by a *Democratic* member of their staff, concluded the building was damaged internally."

What is your obsession with Democrats, Doug? Murder of 3,000 people is not politics, and this not left vs. right. You say "democratic" as if that means this chump cannot possibly be lying. What a larf. And since when did NIST have access to the actual buildings between the time they were "struck" and the time they collapsed? "Damaged internally?" WTF does that even mean? That columns were melted or weakened? From debris? When a bank building right across the street from the Twin Towers didn't even fall? Right.

"I have yet to get a report from a structural engineer or demolitions expert that support the theories of internal explosions..."

There are plenty, if you would bother to look. Don't be a chump.

"I based my conclusions on facts from experts, not speculation from others with an agenda. The facts, as I see them, don't support the theories."

Again, you've provided no verifiable information, and have not lived up to your "journalistic" moniker. Furthermore, you just intentionally stated that you feel those in the Truth Movement have an agenda. If anyone in this movement wants anything, it's the same thing you want: accountability, justice, and answers to unanswered questions. We just disagree as to how far down the rabbit hole this goes.

You've obviously used the term "agenda" against us in the same way you've used it previously to describe the actions of Bush and his cronies, so let's see - ipso facto, you're saying we're no better than they?

You know what? I changed my mind. Fuck you, Doug. Fuck you. You're a plague. A worthless, rhetoric-spouting plague, posing as a journalist, with no interest in verifiable facts. Fuck you.

I feel like Doug is covering his ass, because it's still too early for the mainstream to buy into this stuff. If he's viewed as a conspiracy nut his reader base and livelihood are affected. Or maybe he sees it the way the administration does, as a means to an end. Its true our defence budget was falling, and without a "new pearl harbor" to increase military spending, the US would have begun to lose their status as the sole superpower. The problem with a world ruled by a single entity is that the have-nots get left by the wayside. We're at the point now where the US has to decide whether to become an invincible empire or just another member in democracy of nations. Making the public aware of the 9/11 atrocities would doubtless destroy support for the administration's plan to rule the world. Read Project For a New American Century's "Rebuilding America's Defenses". It's all there, it all makes sense.

I think I might be mistaken on one point. Perhaps the flight manual was in the vehicle at the airport.

Which still doesn't make sense, and still helps whoever discovers it more than a hijacker.

After all, if he needed to do last minute cramming on the way to the airport, you think he'd probably doesn't know the material very well and would want to have that manual on board with him.

I'll stay with my original thinking on this, the current administration is either hopelessly incompetent or they allowed it to happen knowingly as it would make it easier to move their agenda forward.

As for the question above "when will we get our once great country back?"

As soon as you get off your arse and take it back...until then no crying.

Lastly I post this question;
"Which is harder to believe? Your own government screwed its citizens to further its agenda or 19 guys with box cutters took over control of and flew planes into buildings with out any interference from our authorities including the air force"

It seems to me now that your story on March 29th about John Connally, was just to set up this story about 9/11 conspiracy theories. It's a sort of, "I'm not one to believe everything the government says, but I do believe them when it comes to 9/11."I think there are enough stories out there that contradict the "official" story, that should at least leave a little doubt.

Doug, the strongest part of your argument is that you asked demolition experts and structural engineers to give you a professional opinion, since they agree with the official version of events, they have nothing to fear in the way of reprisals, will you please be more precise, and inform us of how many experts there were in total, and also tell us what there names were? There should be no need of confidentiality on this one. This is a simple request and should clear everything up.

I still cannot figure out the economics of shipping scrap steel overseas, as opposed to processing it in the US.

I still cannot fiquire out why the jet engines did not impact the pentagon.They should have been sticking in the side of the builing, or should have left some holes.

I could go on and on and on, but it has all been said by others and the truth is in our face. Not much investigating needs done at all.

For all the naysayers including you, Doug, do the
research. There are hundreds of sources written by
respected,educated,certified,scholars that explain
in detail how planes could have not taken down the towers. Compare those explainations to the FEMA and NIST Reports. If you cannot see the truth, you are blind. Fear was the motive. The patriot act was pushed through on fear. Now we have no rights and no freedoms. The corporate elites are making billions and tens of thousands are dying. Treason it is called. This administration has an agenda that is set by a higher order. The New World Order. Do your research before you make uneducated statements that undermine YOUR CREDIBILITY. You haven't rolled over, have you DOUG?
R.Ayres

Doug, my respect for your anguish in having to state the above. After VERY careful reading I see that you didn't exclude the one organization, not US, that is never mentioned as a suspect.

Like many others I have my own distillation as to what happened. As things stand I don't believe that the truth will be allowed to be published - even if it takes more disinformation and murders.

For all the naysayers including you, Doug, do the
research. There are hundreds of sources written by
respected,educated,certified,scholars that explain
in detail how planes could have not taken down the towers. Compare those explainations to the FEMA and NIST Reports. If you cannot see the truth, you are blind. Fear was the motive. The patriot act was pushed through on fear. Now we have no rights and no freedoms. The corporate elites are making billions and tens of thousands are dying. Treason it is called. This administration has an agenda that is set by a higher order. The New World Order. Do your research before you make uneducated statements that undermine YOUR CREDIBILITY. You haven't rolled over, have you DOUG?
R.Ayres

Doug, my respect for your anguish in having to state the above. After VERY careful reading I see that you didn't exclude the one organization, not US, that is never mentioned as a suspect.

Like many others I have my own distillation as to what happened. As things stand I don't believe that the truth will be allowed to be published - even if it takes more disinformation and murders.

Doug,

ignoring many important anomolies, such as molten iron being found in the subbasements of all of these buildings weeks after the collapse {try to explain that one, doug. learn the science and then realize that giuliani destroyed the evidence as quickly as possible}, the put options, etc., let's just focus on one issue.

Mahmood Ahmad, the director of pakistan's ISI intelligence agency, exchanged visits with george tenet over the summer of 2001 and in fact was in DC visiting senior bush administration officials including george tenet in the week prior to 9/11. ON 9/11 ahmad was eating breakfast with bob graham and porter goss.

so it's a curious thing that about a month later ahmad was forced to suddenly resign his position following reports that the FBI had ID'd him {with the help of Indian intelligence} as the major financier of mohammed atta. the house joint inquiry mentioned that the DCI refused to declassify "the identity of, and information on, a key al quaeda leader involved in the 9/11 attacks".

was it ahmad? was it shiek sayeed? was it someone in saudi intelligence? what is the truth about 9/11, Doug? the fact is, we don't know. max cleland resigned from the 9/11 commission for a good reason, because he knew it was an exercise in propaganda.

the american people deserve to know the truth about the levels of incompetence of their leadership and also the true nature of our so-called "allies". to deny the truth on such a pivotal issue is to potentially deny the individual basic freedoms implicit in a democracy such as open-ness in government and an informed vote.

if you think you know the truth about 9/11 doug, you are very sadly mistaken. don't confuse red herring theories such as "drone aircraft" with the real issues.

I think that conspiracy theories are inevitable in any tragedy of this size. But the "theories" in this one are, frankly, lame. Conspiracy logic has one benefit: because it talks about the unknowable, and about grief, it is excused from normal logic.

My conspiracy theory is this, based on hard-nosed political analysis. From Cobra II, we have this chilling story: Dick Cheney phoned up Former Def. Sec. Cohen right after the Supreme Court ended the counting in Florida. Cohen had been preparing a comprehensive, global security overview. Cheney said, no, just Iraq. Cohen's jaw dropped.

We know from the 9/11 commission that numerous warnings were discounted and ignored. Chatter was high, and the CIA chief had "his hair on fire." "Bin Laden to Strike in the U.S." All of that. Incompetence?

Or were they deliberately putting down our guard, knowing that, sooner or later, something would happen. Once it did, they would have a pretext for Iraq.

Unlike all these cockamamie, impossibly-coordinated, or flatly anti-Semitic elements of guesswork on the conspiracy side, this one can actually be proven, one way or another, once this scoundrel is out of office.

Sorry Doug but you are 100% completely wrong on this one, how was it all these people were making cell phone calls from the aircraft? they never happend, not one shred of evidence exist to show those calls were made, no one could have made those calls, it would have been impossible! how come people that were supposably on those doomed flights are showing up all over the place? it is the same trick hitler used to go to war, and enact his version of the patriot act, I too am a pilot, lic. mechanic, I own a fl1ght simulator design co. and have a vast aeronautical engineering background, I say it was an inside job all the way, when enough facts clearly exist, it is no longer a theory, as in this case, I have always been an avid reader and supporter of CHB, not any more, this reader's jump'n ship.

I have an "Off Topic" Question, Why do we say, "I'm Sorry" when disagreeing with another's opinion?

Doug, you have stirred the pot with your view on the 9/11 Conspiracy's. I think it boils down to whether you believe in Coincidences or Everything Happens for a Reason.
In this case to believe in Coincidence IMO, some of the events before and after the attack takes quite a stretch of the imagination.
The Bush reaction or non reaction started my thinking of something not right.
Another one is what PNAC wished for, another event like Pearl Harbor.
It isn't easy to accuse your own government in a plot that will take American lives. It will be hard to prove or persuade many people.
Finding Hard Evidence will prove to be very difficult if at all possible.
This is one Cover Up, that leaves no room for any mistakes or loose ends.
Maybe in a hundred years something will surface with information that will expose and tell all. It could prove damaging to anyone prominent at that time, related to any name that would come up. It will prove once again, "What goes around, Comes around, eventually".

See!
These "trolls"... er "nutjobs"... er, conpiracy(?) nuts are damned intelligent! &, more than that, they are thinking for themselves! We have not only finetooth combed the government's reports and watched the government's documentaries (NOVA) but we have investigated much further afield. AND... in case no one noticed, many of us have degrees also. The good thing is that is doesn't require one to be a very well educated scientist to see the subterfuge. It really does require critical thinking Doug.
Critical thinking is the mark of a true investigative journalist, not, "I will not..I cannot.
trolls and nutjobs can think critically also.

I have an "Off Topic" Question, Why do we say, "I'm Sorry" when disagreeing with another's opinion?

Doug, you have stirred the pot with your view on the 9/11 Conspiracy's. I think it boils down to whether you believe in Coincidences or Everything Happens for a Reason.
In this case to believe in Coincidence IMO, some of the events before and after the attack takes quite a stretch of the imagination.
The Bush reaction or non reaction started my thinking of something not right.
Another one is what PNAC wished for, another event like Pearl Harbor.
It isn't easy to accuse your own government in a plot that will take American lives. It will be hard to prove or persuade many people.
Finding Hard Evidence will prove to be very difficult if at all possible.
This is one Cover Up, that leaves no room for any mistakes or loose ends.
Maybe in a hundred years something will surface with information that will expose and tell all. It could prove damaging to anyone prominent at that time, related to any name that would come up. It will prove once again, "What goes around, Comes around, eventually".

Doug,

I am also a somewhat new reader here, and I am disturbed by your rant today. I've read all your other rants and this one just DOES NOT sound like you!! After reading all other posts here, I will have to agree with some of the other posters that either you wrote this with a NSA gun to your head, someone else using your name wrote this,you are being threatened/blackmailed after receiving that NSL letter, or you have been bought out. If any of the above is true, then there is no reason to continue to come back here.

Government Insider Says Bush Authorized 911 Attacks

Keep in mind when reading this, that the man being interviewed is no two-bit internet conspiracy buff.
Stanley Hilton was a senior advisor to Sen Bob Dole (R) and has personally known Rumsfeld and Wolfowitz for decades. This courageous man has risked his professional reputation, and possibly his life, to get this information out to people.
The following is from his latest visit to Alex Jones' radio show.
Forwarded with Compliments of Free Voice of America (FVOA): Accurate News and Interesting Commentary for Amerika's Huddled Masses Yearning to Breathe Free.
Note: All honor to Stanley Hilton for risking his life so that we may know the truth of 9/11.
The Bush Junta Unmasked
"This (9/11) was all planned. This was a government-ordered operation. Bush personally signed the order. He personally authorized the attacks. He is guilty of treason and mass murder." --Stanley Hilton
Alex Jones interview of Stanley Hilton, attorney for 911 taxpayers' lawsuit
Alex Jones Radio Show September 10, 2004 Transcription by 'RatCat'
AJ: He is back with us. He is former Bob Dole's chief of staff, very successful counselor, lawyer. He represents hundreds of the victims families of 9/11. He is suing Bush for involvement in 9/11. Now a major Zogby poll out - half of New Yorkers think the government was involved in 9/11. And joining us for the next 35 minutes, into the next hour, is Stanley Hilton. Stanley, it's great to have you on with us.
SH: Glad to be on.
AJ: We'll have to recap this when we start the next hour, but just in a nutshell, you have a lawsuit going, you've deposed a lot of military officers. You know the truth of 9/11. Just in a nutshell, what is your case alleging?
SH: Our case is alleging that Bush and his puppets Rice and Cheney and Mueller and Rumsfeld and so forth, Tenet, were all involved not only in aiding and abetting and allowing 9/11 to happen but in actually ordering it to happen. Bush personally ordered it to happen. We have some very incriminating documents as well as eye-witnesses, that Bush personally ordered this event to happen in order to gain political advantage, to pursue a bogus political agenda on behalf of the neocons and their deluded thinking in the Middle East. I also wanted to point out that, just quickly, I went to school with some of these neocons. At the University of Chicago, in the late 60s with Wolfowitz and Feith and several of the others and so I know these people personally. And we used to talk about this stuff all of the time. And I did my senior thesis on this very subject - how to turn the U.S. into a presidential dictatorship by manufacturing a bogus Pearl Harbor event. So, technically this has been in the planning at least 35 years.
AJ: That's right. They were all Straussian followers of a Nazi-like professor. And now they are setting it up here in America. Stanley, I know you deposed a lot of people and you've got your $7 million dollar lawsuit with hundreds of the victim's families involved.
SH: 7 billion, 7 billion
AJ: Yeah, 7 billion. Can you go over some of the new and incriminating evidence you've got of them ordering the attack?
SH: Yes, let me just say that this is a taxpayers' class action lawsuit as well as a suit on behalf of the families and the basic three arguments are they violated the Constitution by ordering this event. And secondly that they [garbled] fraudulent Federal Claims Act, Title 31 of the U.S. Code in which Bush presented false and fraudulent evidence to Congress to get the Iraq war authorization. And, of course, he related it to 9/11 and claimed that Saddam was involved with that, and all these lies.
AJ: Tell you what, stay there. Stanley, we've got to break. Let's come back and get into the evidence. BREAK
AJ: All right my friends, second hour, September 10th, 2004, the anniversary of the globalist attack coming up tomorrow. It's an amazing individual we have on the line. Bob Dole's former chief of staff, political scientist, a lawyer, he went to school with Rumsfeld and others, he wrote his thesis about how to turn America into a dictatorship using a fake Pearl Harbor attack. He's suing the U.S. government for carrying out 9/11. He has hundreds of the victims' families signing onto it - it's a $7 billion lawsuit. And he is Stanley Hilton. I know that a lot of stations just joined us in Los Angeles and Rhode Island and Missouri and Florida and all over. Please sir, recap what you were just stating and then let's get into the new evidence. And then we'll get into why you are being harassed by the FBI, as other FBI people are being harassed who have been blowing the whistle on this. So, this is really getting serious. Stanley, tell us all about it.
SH: Yeah, we are suing Bush, Condoleezza Rice, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Mueller, etc. for complicity in personally not only allowing 9/11 to happen but in ordering it. The hijackers we retained and we had a witness who is married to one of them. The hijackers were U.S. undercover agents. They were double agents, paid by the FBI and the CIA to spy on Arab groups in this country. They were controlled. Their landlord was an FBI informant in San Diego and other places. And this was a direct, covert operation ordered, personally ordered by George W. Bush. Personally ordered. We have incriminating evidence, documents as well as witnesses, to this effect. It's not just incompetence - in spite of the fact that he is incompetent. The fact is he personally ordered this, knew about it. He, at one point, there were rehearsals of this. The reason why he appeared to be uninterested and nonchalant on September 11th - when those videos showed that Andrew Card whispered in his ear the [garbled] words about this he listened to kids reading the pet goat story, is that he thought this was another rehearsal. These people had dress-rehearsed this many times. He had seen simulated videos of this. In fact, he even made a Freudian slip a few months later at a California press conference when he said he had, quote, "seen on television the first plane attack the first tower." And that could not be possible because there was no video. What it was was the simulated video that he had gone over. So this was a personally government-ordered thing. We are suing them under the Constitution for violating Americans' rights, as well as under the federal Fraudulent Claims Act, for presenting a fraudulent claim to Congress to justify the bogus Iraq boondoggle war, for political gains. And also, under the RICO statute, under the Racketeering Corrupt Organization Act, for being a corrupt entity. And I've been harassed personally by the chief judge of the federal court who is instructing me personally to drop this suit, threatened to kick me off the court, after 30 years on the court. I've been harassed by the FBI. My staff has been harassed and threatened. My office has been broken into and this is the kind of government we are dealing with.
AJ: Absolutely and now it has come out - five separate drills of flying hijacked jets into buildings that morning - which you told us about before it even broke in the Associated Press. They were trying to get out ahead of you. You talked about how you interviewed military people who were told it was a drill that morning. Then to get out ahead of that, the news finally reported on it. Now, we've learned that all these operations - I want to get into that, I want to talk about the new incriminating evidence of ordering it and how they had drilled on this, how Cheney was in the bunker controlling this. That has even come out in the mainstream news but they won't release the details of that, Stanley. But what type of FBI harassment are you going through? SH: First of all, my office was burglarized in San Francisco several months ago. Files were gone through and some files were seized - particularly the ones dealing with the lady that was married to one of the hijackers. Fortunately, I had spare copies in a hidden place so nothing disappeared permanently. But more significantly, FBI agents have been harassing one of my staff members and threatening them with vague but frightening threats of indicting them. And it's just total harassment. They have planted a spy, an undercover agent, in my organization, as we just recently discovered. In other words, these are Nazi Germany tactics. This is the kind of government you have in this country. This is what Bush is all about.
AJ: Stay there, Stanley, Bob Dole's former chief of staff. We'll come back after this quick break. Please stay with us. BREAK
AJ: All right, eight minutes, 25 seconds into the second hour. Stanley Hilton, political scientist, lawyer, Bob Dole's former chief of staff, is suing the government for 7 billion dollars for carrying out 9/11 and for racketeering. And he joins us now. During the break, I first really did the big interview with Stanley Hilton after I saw him attacked on Fox News. And that interview got massive attention. And then he kind of went underground for a while because a judge, we're going to talk about that, ordered him to not do any more interviews. And now he's back doing interviews. He's had his office broken into, FBI threats and harassment. Bottom line, he has deposed military individuals, wives of hijackers, you name it, it was a government operation. It has even come out in mainstream news, a piece here, a piece there. They had drills on 9/11, that's why NORAD stood down. Cheney was in control of the whole thing. Stanley Hilton has now gotten documents about how Bush ordered the whole operation. And I'll tell you right now, his life is in danger, folks. And he's got so much courage. He went to school with these neocons at the University of Chicago. He wrote his thesis on how the government could use terrorist attacks to set up martial law. He is the man for the time and folks wondered why he disappeared for a while and just did his lawsuit and wasn't doing interviews, it was because he was ordered to. Stanley, can you get into that for us?
SH: I did an interview with you, Alex, back in March of 2003, about a year and a half ago, and literally two weeks after that, I was contacted by the emissary of the chief judge of the federal court where I have the lawsuit. And I was warned not to publicize it but to keep it quiet and threatened with discipline. And it remained quiet until a couple of months ago and then I got on the air on some programs and some publicity and July 1st, I was threatened directly by the chief judge here, threatened with court discipline. This particular judge has been circulating communiqués to the other federal judges seeking anything negative she can get against me to try and discipline me after I've been on the court here for 30 years with no disciplinary problems at all. This is suddenly happening. And her assistants who are on the committee of the court met with me on July 1st in Palo Alto, California, and threatened me directly. They handed me a copy of the lawsuit and said that the judge wants me to dismiss this. What's this? She doesn't like the content of it. This is politically incorrect. This is outside the norm. I said I represented more than 400 plaintiffs, how am I going to dismiss this case? And they threatened me directly and they said, "the next time you'll be disciplined." And also they've threatened me not to go public, etc. And this is just outrageous.
AJ: It's all color of law. No direct orders, just all in your face.
SH: They sent a letter out, and of course they deny it's because of the political content of the suit but they told me directly on the phone that it is because of this suit and this judge is very, very angry, apparently has been in contact with Ashcroft's Justice Department. I got a call from Ashcroft's Justice Department a few months ago about this, demanding that I drop the suit, threatening sanctions and all kinds of things. I refused to drop it. AJ: Now let's go back over, you had them break into your office, harassment. Let's go over that in detail.
SH: My office was broken into about 6 months ago. The file cabinets - it was obvious they had been rifled through. Files were stolen. Files dealing with this particular case and particularly with the documents I had regarding the fact that the - some of these hijackers, at least some of them were on the payroll of the U.S. government as undercover FBI, CIA, double agents. They are spying on Arab groups in the U.S. And, in effect, all this led up to the effect that al Qaeda is a creation of the George Bush administration, basically. That the entity that he called al Qaeda is directly linked to George Bush. And all this stuff was stolen. Fortunately, I had copies. But this was just part of the harassment. The FBI has also been harassing some of my assistants and has planted a spy in our midst. And it is just outrageous that these Nazi tactics are being used - and the obstruction of justice, these people are criminals. And that's what's happening under the tremendous pressure here to just drop it. Or to shut up now and just go away.
AJ: Now, let's talk about what they want you to drop. Let's talk about, without giving names, the people you deposed, what really happened, the picture you've got. You said earlier that Bush ordered this, they were simulating this which they now admit there were simulations on that morning. Let's go over what they don't want you to talk about, Stanley.
SH: We have evidence both documentary as well as witness sworn statements from undercover former FBI agents, FBI informants, etc., that other officials in the Pentagon and the military and the Air Force that deal with the fact that there were many drills, many rehearsals for 9/11 before it happened. Bush had seen this simulated on TV many times. He blurted this out at a press conference in California a few months after 9/11 where he said he had, quote, seen the first plane hit the first building on the video. And that's not possible because there was no official video of that. There was one of the second plane not the first one. He had seen the first one. We do have some incriminating documents that Bush personally ordered 9/11 events. It was well planned. A FEMA official has admitted on tape that he was there the night before - September 10th, that is
AJ: And now Mayor Giuliani, a few months ago in the 911 Commission, admitted that - Tripod II. They had their whole command post already moved out of Building 7. Now, this is very, very important. This is a key area of this whole event. You said months before it came out on the CIA's own website and the Associated Press, you said I deposed people. They said there were drills that morning and exactly what happened, happening - that was the smoke-screen for the stand-down. And then to get out ahead of it, the CIA comes out and said yeah we were running a drill that morning. Now, we've learned that five, possibly six, were confirmed. Five of these - one drill with the exact same thing happening that actually happened, at the exact same time in the morning. That's why NORAD stood down with 24 different blips on the screen. You've said this. You brought this up first. Now, I know you can't get too much into detail but can you tell us how you learned of this?
SH: I have interviewed individuals in NORAD and the Air Force. I personally toured NORAD many years ago around the time that I worked for Dole. I'm very familiar with the operations at Cheyenne Mountain at Colorado Springs, where NORAD is. Individuals that work in NORAD as well as the Air Force have stated this, off the record, but the point is, yes, this was not just five drills but at least 35 drills over at least two months before September 11th. Everything was planned, the exact location
AJ: But five drills that day.
SH: That day, that day, and Bush thought it was a drill. That's the only explanation for why he appeared nonchalant
AJ: We also had NORAD officers and civilian air traffic controllers going, "Is this part of the exercise? Is this a drill?"
SH: Yes.
AJ: On the tapes and in TV interviews, they thought it was, quote, a drill.
SH: That's right. That's exactly what I said long before it became public. I've known about this since earlier in March of '03, as I stated before. This was all planned. This was a government-ordered operation. Bush personally signed the order. He personally authorized the attacks. He is guilty of treason and mass murder. And now, obstruction of justice by attempting to use a federal judge and FBI agents to inhibit a legitimate civil lawsuit in this country, in federal court. Even a chief judge in this court tried to harass and threaten me personally for representing legitimate plaintiffs. And they got Clinton for allegedly lying under oath about Paula Jones and now - look what's happening now. And Ken Starr used to be across from me in Duke Law School in the early `70s and it´s interesting that he got away with trying to get Clinton impeached, so we have a far worse criminal sitting in the oval office today - somebody guilty of mass murder as well as obstruction of justice.
AJ: Well, I mean look, they say they never heard of a plan to fly planes into buildings - said it all over television - Rice, Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Ashcroft. And then we find out they were running all these drills that morning. Even if they weren't involved, that proves they were liars about ever hearing of such a plan.
SH: Well, I'm trying to take their depositions - I've been trying to take their depositions for months. They've been trying to object to it. They will have to admit they were either lying then or now. It's clearly perjury either way. They are liars and perjurers; that's what they are. These are the people that we have running this government and, of course, they knew about it. How are they going to claim now that they didn't know about these drills? Their idea is that nobody knew anything. It's the old know-nothing mentality. And how anybody considers this believable is beyond me.
AJ: All right, now people ask how could a huge organization, how could the AWACs, how could the military let this happen; whereas before, if your Cessna got off course for five minutes, they would launch F-16s on you. It's real simple. It's what Stanley Hilton said here a year and a half ago. It's what came out in the news after that. The military, good people, were told this was all a drill. And it was not a drill. And ABC News admits that Cheney was in control of [?] out of the White House [?] and that he ordered the military to quote "do something." Our inside sources from Hilton and others say it was a stand down and they admit they will not release that under national security. Stanley?
SH: Well they are going to admit it, they're going to release it in the court case because if you demand it under subpoena powers and they must release it. And part of our lawsuit is brought in the name of the U.S. because under the federal fraudulent [Claims Act], we accuse the Bush Administration of presenting a fraudulent claim to Congress. And under the statutes of Title 31 of the U.S. code, they must release this information. That's why they are trying to threaten me, harass me, invade my office, steal my files, commit blatant obstruction of justice and other crimes to try and prevent a legitimate civil suit from exposing these criminals and their acts of treason and mass murder.
AJ: I think you need to publicly tell folks that you are not planning suicide. Would you like to tell folks that?
SH: (laughs) I'm not planning suicide. I've got family and I'm not planning that but I don't like the threats I'm under - but I can tell you this, it's taking a toll emotionally on me and my staff. And particularly, when you get a threat from the chief judge of your own court.
AJ: Why have you decided to go public again after a year of being under the radar? SH: Because the more and more evidence that I've been adducing over a year and a half has made it so obvious to me that this was now without any doubt a government operation and that it amounts to the biggest act of treason and mass murder in American history. I mean George Bush makes Benedict Arnold look like a patriot. He makes Benedict Arnold look like George Washington. I mean that's what we have - a criminal and a traitor sitting in the White House pretending he's a patriot, wrapping himself in the flag. And it's pretty disgusting because the other side of the so-called opposition, the Kerry camp is just saying nothing because they're afraid to speak.
AJ: Stay right there. We'll be right back.
BREAK
AJ: Stanley Hilton will be with us for another 15 or 16 minutes. Then he's got to go into court. Bob Dole's former chief of staff, political scientist, lawyer, represents 400 plus plaintiffs - most of them victims of 9/11. When I was in New York last week, everybody I was talking to, I mean 90 plus percent of them at ground zero - "I had family, I worked in the buildings, my son's a Navy Seal - he called the night before and said don't go to work." You know, all of this, and then now they never had any idea - and it turns out they had all these drills - and one drill of hijacked jets flying into the World Trade Center and Pentagon at 8:30 in the morning. That morning - come on people! And Stanley Hilton brought all this out on this show before it was in the mainstream news. And I was talking to him during the break. I mean, the harassment, the moles, the threatening of his staff, the judge threatening him. Stanley, let's get specifically into the documents that you have now got that they have now been robbing you for, that you luckily, thank God had copies. Specifically, Bush ordering this. Can you get into that for us - ordering 9/11? SH: National Security Council classified documents which [garbled] and it's was part of a series of documents that were involved with the drill documents. This was all planned - they had it on videotape. These planes were controlled by remote control, as I stated previously a year and a half ago, there's a system called Cyclops. There is a computer chip in the nose of the plane and it enables the ground control, the military ground control, to disable the pilot's control of the plane and to control it and to fly it directly into those towers. That's what happened. It's also a technology used on what's called the Global Hawk, which is an aircraft drone - a remote- controlled aircraft. And they were doing it. We are talking about National Security Council classified documents that clearly indicated that [garbled] had a green light to order this to go and this is no drill. These drills that were running were clearly a dress rehearsal and this was a government operation. You wonder why these people are trying to threaten people and trying to intimidate people who have written this suit, I guess if you murdered 3000 of your own citizens, in conjunction with the corrupt Royal family of Saudi Arabia as Bush did. And if you then waste billions more on a worthless garbage war in Iraq, I guess you've got something to worry about and you want to threaten people to prevent it from coming out.
AJ: I mean let's look at this. Not only are there dress rehearsals, they are smoke screens so the good military stands down and doesn't know what's happening. But it's now coming out, even in mainstream news, that yes these drills were going on. Yes, and some of these drills, quote, passenger-type jets were under remote control - this is decades old technology. In 1958, NORAD was [ ] old jets and using them for target practice. Decades ago they flew jumbo jets from LA to Sidney Australia. So since that's going on, everybody knows that. And it's the same MO. Just like the first World Trade Center [bombing] where they get two retarded men who followed this blind sheik who had a tiny mosque above a pizza parlor. And they set them up as the patsies. Then the FBI cooks the bomb, trains the drivers. This informant goes, "You're not going to bomb the building? They go "Yeah, we're letting it go forward." He tapes them to protect themselves. The two retarded gentlemen, thank God, didn't park it up against the column, as the FBI instructed them to do, so it didn't bring down the tower - because you have to be right up against the column. That doesn't happen. Yet, it's the same thing with 9/11. You've got these CIA agents, these Arabs, who were trained at U.S. military bases, Pensacola Naval Air Station - mainstream media, out creating their legends for this background. They're on board the aircraft. My military sources say nerve gas kills everybody on board the plane - nerve gas packets. Then they fly the planes into buildings. From your inside sources, is that accurate?
SH: It's one of the things that we are looking into - that nerve gas or something else disabled people. It's possible. I can't say for sure to be honest with you
AJ: All you know is they were government agents and they were on board and the planes were remote controlled.
SH: Yeah, it was basically a smokescreen. I mean, the events of the hijackings, how someone snuck in those cutters, it was a plant. It was like a classic decoy. I've got some military background. And it's called decoy. It's a decoy operation. You make the people focus on the decoy to avoid looking at the real criminals. So they are focusing on these so-called nineteen hijackers and saying, "Oh, it must have been these Arabs. When, in fact, the guilty person is at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue - sitting in the oval office. That's the guilty person. That's the one who authorized it. There is only one man who could have authorized this operation and that's Bush. And anyone at NORAD will tell you as I have been told personally at NORAD in the war control room, there is only one man who has the power to do this kind of thing and that's Bush. Even though many believe he's a puppet. And I think in many ways he is. The fact of the matter is where was [ ] Cheney, Rumsfeld and these other traitors. The fact is Bush personally ordered and he's guilty and liable and he's going to be re-elected apparently because the media's asleep and [garbled] for Bush. AJ: Well, the media is owned by the same military industrial complex that carried out the attacks.
SH: Yeah, the media is only interested in maintaining the official government fantasy that this was a little lone Arab. These Arabs couldn't even steer that plane down a runway.
AJ: Stay there Stanley, final segment coming up. BREAK
AJ: Mr. Hilton, when you talk to these FBI agents, when you talk to these military men and women, what's their attitude? They've got to be pretty freaked out to have the big picture and know what actually happened on 9/11.
SH: Yes, you know it's like clouds just before a thunderstorm in the sense that they are sort of pregnant with rage. They are just enraged at the criminal politicians who have perverted and misused the government to murder its own citizens and pursue these dubious political ends. And many of them, in increasing numbers, are willing to talk and will talk under subpoena - but only under subpoena because the official party line of the government is shut up and don't talk to the trial lawyer. But more and more, they are very outraged that part of the government has done this to its own people, to its own people. I mean you have to go back to Stalin to see something - not even Hitler did this to his own people. You have to look at Stalin who murdered the Kulaks, the Russians for his own dubious gains. Also we've got - we have a Stalinist mentality in this country. And, if these people pose as patriots and wrap themselves in the flag, it's disgusting. I wanted also to point out that the Japanese television network, Asahi, is going to be airing a special on primetime tomorrow, on September 11th. They interviewed me for eight hours a couple of weeks ago. I'll be on that. I wish - of course, the America media don't care so they are not going to care. But in Japan, people are very serious in interviewing me and others. And we have a website now, called deprogram.info, if more people are interested: www.deprogram.info. But the other thing, I just wanted to say that if anything happens to me - and I don't know why - because I'm being threatened here now. And it seems you can't bring a case in this country anymore against criminals in power without being threatened. And this is how they operate. The stakes are pretty high when you've got a world historical level of treason and fraud by this government against it's own people. I guess this is what you have to expect.
AJ: Stanley, the globalists, the new world order crowd, definitely intend to carry out more terror attacks. I know they would have carried out more attacks if we wouldn't have done what we've been up to, if you wouldn't have been out there boldly speaking out and many others. And then their electronic Berlin wall has a bunch of cracks in it now. Thanks to good people like yourself and many others who are speaking out and telling the truth. But do you think that they may carry out what they've been hyping - a suitcase nuke attack, a biological release to try to smokescreen all of this? I know it's a catch 22, you've got to expose the murderers. We've got to get the word out on this but some government people that I've talk to say, "Yeah, but if you do that, they are going to go even more hard core and must totally try to take over." But I say regardless, they are already doing that. So what do you say to that?
SH: Well, yeah, I think they have an agenda. They have contingency plans. I think they are laying low now because there are an increasing number of people, like myself, who are openly challenging them and accusing them of criminal conduct. I think they would have done it again if we had not spoken up. I think they're planning, what they would like to do is silence any dissenters. That's why we are trying to get the Patriot Act declared unconstitutional in this lawsuit also.
AJ: Let's talk about polls. In the beginning a patriot is a scarce man, hated and feared, but in time when his cause succeeds, the timid join him, because then it costs nothing to be a patriot. You are one of those guys who hit the barbwire for us, or figuratively jumped on the hand grenade for America. But when you've got a Zogby poll, who is highly respected, half of New Yorkers believe that the government was involved. When you have a Canadian poll, 63% on average believe that the U.S. government was involved. And some groups, as high as 76% in polls believe the government was involved. European polls, two- thirds show the same thing. We have German defense ministers and technology ministers and another member of their government now, three of them going public, known conservatives, and progressives. You have an environment minister, Michael Meacher, saying that if they didn't do it, they sure as hell knew what was going on. Look, if anybody who is a thinking person looks at the evidence, their official story is impossible. Then you investigate and they are involved in it. Comments to this massive awakening and what's happening.
SH: Well, I think that's why they want the Patriot Act to suppress political dissent. They have to, they're anticipating, they are not dumb individuals. I know these people personally, Wolfowitz. These are criminal individuals but they are smart and so they anticipated political dissent. And that's why, like the Nazis, their forebears, and their blood brothers, the Nazis and the Stalinists, they're all for political repression. Every corrupt and criminal government has done this - they suppress their own people: Nazi Germany, Communist Russia, Mao Tse-Tung, that's why we have the Patriot Act. So it's hand in hand. They had it planned to go right up to September 11th, this was all part of the plan. You have to do it. It was part of my senior thesis. You must follow through the terrorists attacks with a political suppression mechanism in the law. And that's why they want Patriot I and Patriot II and their plans are to continue launching more terrorist attacks to justify even more repression. The goal is to make this a one party dictatorship in this country, to pursue their dubious ends with their blood brothers like the Saudi Royal family. And also, historical blood brothers, such as the Nazi Germany and the Communist Russian. That's the goal
AJ: You've got to go in just a minute or two. But I wanted to also tell you about New York. Sound cannons that are used in Iraq, they're against us. Men in black ski masks. 41,000 police, accredited media being arrested randomly. Children being arrested, people in wheelchairs, 2000 plus people put in a camp with barbwire fences inside with no bathrooms. You had to have permission to go to the porta-potties. Police screaming at you. It had nothing to do with terrorism. They are openly setting the precedent for martial law.
SH: Well, that's right, the word terrorist is now being overly broad and overly defined [garbled] and also, you know, it's like the word communist was used for anything during the McCarthy witch hunt. And anybody can be called a terrorist by Bush's definition. But the irony is that the number one terrorist in the world is living at the White House at the oval office today. That's the real irony. For sheer hypocrisy, I think he deserves the world prize and ought to be in the Ripley book, Believe It or Not, and the Guinness book of world records for sheer brazen chicanery and fraud.
AJ: Let me ask you a question on this because this is the experience that I had. Watching television, watching the killers, watching those that are guilty, stand up there as our saviors is incredibly painful. It's like watching Ted Bundy being the judge at his own trial. I mean it is just painful to know who these people are. To see them putting America in a shredder. Now we are going to have forced psychological testing of every American, forced drugging, you know Pan-American unions, I mean it's just all happening, it's in our face, Stanley.
SH: Yeah, it's very disturbing and as one who has studied the theory and concept of dictatorships, I personally interviewed Albert Speer, who was Hitler's armaments minister. I interviewed him in 1981 in Munich. And I've studied the psychology and history of totalitarianism and there is no question that it's very frightening. And it has, today, with high technology, albeit for the first time in history, the chance of having a world empire dominated by corrupt, technologically oriented government - an elite government. And they've got now what people like Napoleon and Hitler didn't have, which is the technological means to dominate not only their own country but others - the world.
AJ: The answer is to expose them as the terrorists, to show how PNAC [Project for the New American Century] said we need helpful Pearl Harbor events, to show how Northwoods called for the exact 9/11-style attacks, to show their own plans. And to force people to face this horror. What are they going to do in a year or two when 80% of us, not half of us, know the truth?
SH: Well, that's why they want repression and, then again, the ancient old diversion, launch another terrorist attack to get people to pitch it away. I mean who knows what they'll do next. I mean their capacity for ingenious creation of these events is sort of unraveled. I mean there is no limit. My guess is they are going to try another stunt - maybe a stunt just before the election to justify getting Bush reelected. Although it seems like he is running against a straw man or a ghost right now, anyway. But, my guess is they'll try some other tactic to get people's attention away from 9/11 if it gets to be too much attention. What you really want is for the public to just lose interest because the public - and it's like remember the Alamo, you know, people don't forget things like that. To me it's like the Alamo, remember 9/11, that ought to be the slogan for this outrageous act of treason. That's what it is. It's not
AJ: We are at a crossroads, I don't think they anticipated this much resistance, Stanley.
SH: Yeah, I hope they are truly wrong and as incompetent as they are corrupt and guilty. That means their incompetence is exceeded only by their corruption and their guilt. And eventually, if enough people are going to get outraged enough, these people in the bureaucracy and in the civil service and our military, and eventually we can get people under subpoena these individuals will be exposed.
AJ: Stanley, their whole operation hinges on us being naïve and not recognizing evil. This is what they got with Hitler and others. People couldn't recognize evil so they continued to repeat succumbing to it. We are recognizing it this time. We are putting our lives, our treasure, our future on the line for freedom because we cannot let these blood-thirsty control freak terrorists capture us and use us and turn us into the empire and have a draft and use us as their slaves to invade the planet. And that's their PNAC plan. Stanley Hilton, I know you've got to get to court. God bless you. I want to thank you for being here with us today. Can we get you back on next week?
SH: Sure, just give me a call.
AJ: God bless you my friend. Any closing comments?
SH: My closing comments would be, I think people ought to just think about the consequence of having someone like Bush in the White House and the danger for the future that these sorts of individuals pose. This is not just a historical event of the past. This is part of the plan and the camera is still rolling. They have an agenda. These individuals are extremely dangerous. They are armed and dangerous. They pose a clear and dangerous threat to every freedom-loving person not only American but in the whole world.
AJ: You are absolutely right Stanley Hilton. They have captured the government. They have not captured the peoples' minds and they are counting on us not facing up to it.
SH: And they are counting on the repressive Patriot Act and threats and chief judges and FBI agents threatening people who are exposing them. That's what they are counting on.
AJ: But you're not backing down are you, my friend.
SH: No, I'm not
AJ: Well, we all stand with you, my brother, and God bless you.
SH: All right. Thank you.
To hear Alex's interview with Stanley Hilton -
http://www.prisonplanet.tv/audio/091204hilton.htm

The NIST report? Are you a total idiot? They only devoted a page and a half to the moment the Towers were poised for collapse and didn't address the collapse beyond that point, ignoring the demolition like features of the collapse. Then refused to release the visualization models.

How stupid can you be to fall for something like that? Take a few physics classes gatekeeper.

And here's a little tidbit for you - there ain't no difference between Democrats and Republicans.

Doug (or whoever wrote the aforementioned article):

Either you are:

1) unwilling to grasp the true malevolence of elements within our government,
2) you have been compromised on this Holy Grail of issues, or
3) you are being ghost-written

The evidence contrary to the "official" version of the events of 9/11/01 is so pervasive, so profound that it beggars belief that anyone would believe the fairy-tale story put out by our government - a government of LIARS.
Frankly, I wouldn't believe them if they told me rain was wet.
I would rethink this one.
Ask yourself this question whenever an event like 9/11/01 happens:
Who Benefits???

I can hardly wait for Doug's next Rant. And also, why the server move????

Even if all this was for real , it was an al qaeda attack with no standdown orders and buildings magically falling due to "nist fire tm" (the new type of fire that fells buildings) at what point did al qaeda stop being a loose coalition of jihadii trained , funded and handheld into war by the CIA? Theres enough evidence to say the CIA heavily assisted the fledgling mujahadeen in afghanistan to fight the russians but where did this stop? did it continue long enough for them to assist in giving bush the one thing he needed , a war to remove public attention away from the fact that he had no policies. Seems mighty convenient if you ask me.

Beliefs are powerful tools in the hands of those who mold realities around them.

I don't pretend to know what happened on 9/11, but that in no way prevents me from observing the contradictions in the coverup. To deny them... well, that's just plain ole fear of confronting the false beliefs underlying the contradictions.

I'm sorry to see such a fine website go down in flames. A lot of people believed in your coherence Doug, but now you look like just another Kool-Aid dispenser.

Other than fear, the only other explanation I see for your actions is deceit, and given your history in Alton, I don't believe that to be your purpose.

Hopefully, your next essay will clarify your stance, else I fear it will be your last, as you've managed to alienate your entire audience at this point.

Contradictions exist only in the mind. To watch you insist they are real is to watch you self-destruct.

Or it is to watch you cave-in to power, as others have mentioned. Either way, as evidenced by the massive number of posts here, it is an intolerable level of incoherence.

A level that is usually reserved for the mainstream media.

PUT YOUR MONEY WHERE YOUR MOUTH IS

If you can, as you claim, prove that although the collapse of WTC Building #7 does not defy the laws of physics, then go and collect your $1 MILLION.

http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/march2006/310306launchinvestigation.htm

Otherwise, wake up to the real world, see the obvious truth and tell everyone you know before democracy is a thing of the past. Science does not lie, politicians do.

Evidence:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1951610169657809939

Simple physics:

http://www.checktheevidence.com/video/911/Prof%20Steve%20Jones%20USVC%209-11%20Scientific%20&%20Ethical%20Questions%20-%20Feb%201%202006.wmv

I'm extremely impressed with the reader comments on this article. It's obvious that those who come here do so because they think and see for themselves, rather than just listening to what they've been told. Perhaps Doug knows this full well and wrote what he had to in order to cover his ass, knowing his readers are intelligent enough to read between the lines. I hope eventually you'll speak out, Doug...it's a dangerous turn you've taken credibility-wise.

molten steel WEEKS after the atacks?? where did this heat come from? please consult your experts and share the knowledge. Please ask someone to explain just this one... please

Q I want to be clear because I've heard you say this, and I've heard the President say it, but I want you to say it for my listeners, which is that the White House has never argued that Saddam was directly involved in September 11th, correct?

THE VICE PRESIDENT: That's correct. We had one report early on from another intelligence service that suggested that the lead hijacker, Mohamed Atta, had met with Iraqi intelligence officials in Prague, Czechoslovakia. And that reporting waxed and waned where the degree of confidence in it, and so forth, has been pretty well knocked down now at this stage, that that meeting ever took place. So we've never made the case, or argued the case that somehow Osama bin Laden [sic] was directly involved in 9/11. That evidence has never been forthcoming. ...

Ditto Ian.
Not agreeing with you Doug, is not the same as not respecting you. I have cheered loudly, albeit, not publically, with many of your Rants but, this one is not up to par with what I have become accustomed to from you.
Allow me to disagree but don't destroy the respect.

Other than stating the obvious ( people believe what they believe )I was watching and waiting for someone to bring Al Gore into this morass.
Whether duly elected or not, I've lived long enough to understand that the president, any president since Eisenhower have become shills for those who truely control what happens on our planet.
Esienhower was a true warrior and had the guts to warn the American people about an ever growing force known as the military/industrial complex. We failed to listen and now we are paying the price in the further erosion of our liberties.
It makes little difference whom we elect as president, because they take their cue from those who would rather not be exposed in the light of day. All one must ever do in a situation like this ( regarding the events of 9/11 ) is to reduce the matter to its simplest form and ultimately it always comes down to the same issue. MONEY!
We saw our marines dragged through the streets naked in Somalia and ran. Why? No oil. But Huessein was the prize because we know the Saudi oil fields are begining to empty.
From my perspective as a retired military man of rank, Esenhowers words ring truer today than ever before. Until such time that we the people have decided enough is enough, we will continue to see rot and corruption in our government. I sincerely believe that our founding fathers are rolling over in their graves with regard to the direction we have allowed our elected officials to take us.
The questions surrounding this story will never be answered in our lifetime and as I stated initially, people believe what they believe including Mr. Thompson. After all it is one of the last freedoms he has left.

Doug please check out the web site, >>>>>>....thanks

the Reichstag fire was a stroke of good luck for the Nazis. was it not?

The reason I opened this column up for comments is because I knew it would spark a lot of discussion. Everyone is entitled to their opinion and interpretations. I just don't happen to agree with most of the conspiracy theories, based on my own research and analysis.

But, as I said in the column, when an expert in the field with credentials that are verifiable comes to me with information that I can confirm independently, I will print it and admit I was wrong.

Until then, I stand my opinion.

Thanks to everyone for their thoughts. They make interesting reading.

Doug

Why is my post not showing up?

Lisa Guliani

First of all, you stated that the NIST study into the collapse of building 7 was conducted by a Democratic member of their staff. Well, so what? This is not a partisan issue. Also, the final report regarding the demise of building 7 has yet to be released as of this date (March 31, 2006). The reason for its collapse is "officially" unknown at this time. Did randomized hydrocarbon fires along with debris from an external force cause a symmetrical collapse of the building into its own footprint? Well sir, watch the video of the collapse. It is readily available on the Internet. Then read the NIST report. Again, the final report has not been published, and in fact, the NIST has solicited a private contractor to examine their data. Furthermore, if the symmetrical collapse of building 7 was due to random fires, caused by the ignition of a diesel fuel tank by random falling debris, then we should certainly patent that unique method of demolition for future use. Such a display of demolition could only be matched by the precision planning of a professional demolition company. Millions of dollars could be saved with this wondrous new invention: The patented random burn demolition method.

Doug, are the credendials of a Professer of Physics not good enogh for you. Stepen E Jones, BYU University

Doug, are the credendials of a Professer of Physics not good enogh for you. Stephen E Jones, BYU University

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3498980438587461603&q=911+eyewitness

(From time frame 52:50 - 55:10 , 4 explosions can be heard + white smoke rising from the streets roughly 12 seconds before WTC1 collapse)

Why hasn't the government acknowledged these precollapse EXPLOSIONS?

Doug,

Educate yourself.

1. No steel reinforced structure has never totally colapsed due to fire in history. EVER.

2. Assymetrical damage does not lead to symmetrical collapse. The fires did not burn uniformly, heat wss not accumulating, it was ventilating. This is evidenced by all the BROKEN WINDOWS.

3. The fires did not burn long enough nor hot enough to either weaken or melt the steel. Plasticity and elasticity are not strong arguments for the collapses of the buildings.

4. It takes 2,795 degrees F. to melt steel. Hydrocarbon fires burn at a maximum temp of 1517 degrees F. Jet fuel burns at approx. 1800 degrees F. The fires were going out within minutes after the big fireballs we all saw. This is evidenced by the big, thick plumes of black smoke emanating from the buildings. Black smoke is indicative of an oxygen-starved fire, a suffocating fire, a fire that is going OUT.

5. The buildings fell in virtual freefall time, defying Isaac Newton's 1st Law of Motion and Galileo's Law of Falling Bodies. Are you prepared to soundly refute the laws of physics, Doug?

6. The government has brought forth no solid proof of any of its allegations regarding 9-11. There is nothing proving that 19 Arab cavedwellers outwitted a multi-trillion dollar air defense sytem on 9-11.

7. The FBI has contradicted itself regarding flight 77. First they said it was vaporized, and subsequently, they said they had reconstructed nearly all of the plane.

8. FEMA has contradicted the FBI regarding Flight 77. Who shall we believe, Doug?

9. Gravity makes objects fall straight down. On 9-11, steel and debris were ejected horizontally with force at great distances. Please explain how a gravity collapse can eject steel and debris with force HORIZONTALLY.

10. The pulverized concrete on 9-11 is indicative of use of a much greater energy source. Try pulverizing a chunk of concrete, Doug. Go ahead. Use a jackhammer. Drop it from a great height.
Let me know how you make out.

11. Why don't you investigate the powerdown at the WTC on the weekend prior to 9-11, Doug?

12. How is it possible that building 7 fell into its own footprint in exactly the same manner as WTC I and II, when it was not hit by a plane?

13. How is it possible that the 110 floors of either tower did not provide tremendous amounts of resistance and slow the falls, when this was an enormous amount of MASS and SHOULD have slowed the collapses?

14. Check out http://www.wingtv.net, Doug.
Check out 9-11 on Trial, our book that lays out the case for WTC controlled demolition using NO conspiracy theory.

15. Check out our book Phantom Flight 93: The shanksville Flight 93 Hoax.

16. Why don't you ask the FBI why they are suppressing videotapes they have siezed from the Citgo Gas Station, the Sheraton Hotel, the Dept. of Motor Vehicles, and the Pentagon's own surveillance cameras?

17. Can you explain why the exterior aluminum casing of the WTC towers did NOT melt when it has a lower melting threshhold than steel? How can the steel melt when the aluminum did not?

I could go on, but I think you should be getting the point by now....and I have to get ready for a 9-11 interview on AM radio in a while.
Do your homework, Doug.
Don't carry water for the neocons.

Lisa Guliani
WING TV

Doug,
I am a pastry-chef and do a dandy Sacher torten mit file. I can also do a raspberry Vacherin avec garrot. Perhaps you need the key to the ankle braclet?
I'm always standing in the wrong place when the bribes get passed out. Sounds like you got lucky. Hope it was lots of $$. Enjoy the beach!
Chef

Doug,
Your not being open minded on the 911 issue. At the scholars for 911 website you can prove to youself that it was a controlled demolition. You abviously did not look at it objectively or not at all. Your dead wrong on this one Doug and a lot of people are dying based on a lie. rexamine it, debate us debate shcolars for 911, I dare you.

I find it both amusing and shocking that so many here condemn Doug for not being open-minded, while they themselves are guilty of the same, unwilling to accept anything that doesn't fit into what they "know" happened on 911.

To me, 911 "feels" like an inside job, given all the unanswered questions. I, however, have not consulted with any demolitions experts, nor was I anywhere near the Pentagon when this was going down. Doug, however, claims he was. Given his past record, I believe him. Way to stick to your guns, Doug.

One question (sort of)
With all your contacts and such, did you ever see the FL77 Black Box (data not voice)?
Because after 4 different FOIA requests to the NTSB (referred to FBI, referred to DOJ/DOD) I still can not get even one scrap of evidence about this black box. They won't even release the Engineer's initial inspection report on the thing.
Why on earth would they do that?

-Thanks

Whether or not some future investigation either proves or disproves Bush complicity in the WTC destruction is almost irrelevent at this point. As a direct result of six years of lies, media manipulation, hidden agendas, refusal to comply with a myriad of laws, rules, and regulations in virtually every area of public life, no one with any sense or intelligence believes ANYTHING that this administration says. If Dick Cheney announced the sun rises in the east, I'd wonder what was his behind the scenes agenda? Paranoia? Maybe, but these guys brought it all on themselves. it's like Renee Zelweger's line in "Cold Mountain," you can't create the weather and
then stand outside and say "Shit, it's raining!" These are venal people, evil people and whether or not they conspired in this monstrous act is something that may never be known. That does not change their venality or evilness.

well, too bad the article wasn't as interesting as the responses.

All I can say is that anyone who believes the official Bushco line on 9/11 believes in some whacked out damned conspiracy theories, 'cause that's exactly what Bushco delivered by way of explanation.

We have laws on the books against 'conspiracy' to commit various crimes. Should we be so deluded as to assume that the most powerful people in the world are by some miracle immune? "Power corrupts, and absolute power corrupts absolutaly.

Those who categorically deny the existence of conspiracies (not theories) are either deluded, wilfully ignorant, or intentionally attempting to steer others away from the truth.

Research "The Franklin Cover-Up" "Bohemian Grove" "Jesuits" "Knights of Malta/Columbus" and the "New World Order Illuminati," for starters.

A lot of misinformation out there, but take your time, sift through it - and get to the truth. It is there - and it is real.

"The world is governed by very different personages than what is imagined by those who are not behind the scenes" - Benjamin Desraeli

Consistent with a demolition? Look, being really generous, this does not necessarily mean it was a demolition but it surely is CONSISTENT with one.
No7.

http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/november2004/281104unmistakablecharges.htm

911 was taken right out of hitlers, "How to be a Dictater for dummies handbook," they definitely got the dummy,.......The war, the no bid contracts, the patriot act shoved down our throats, it's all so obvious it defi's any realm of intelligent comprehension.

Doug,

Granted your experiences dictate your perspective on the matter and I will not debate the details with you. I KNOW 9/11 was an inside job and you KNOW it was not, so we leave it at that. However, YOU should know better than to be tossing around the "conspiracy theory" term as if you were a reporter on FOX news who "knows" better than everyone else. However, to the others, I must say, although Doug's position and opinions are suspect it does not mean that he was "paid-off" or whatever.

Doug,
You have exposed yourself as one believing the govt. fairy tale. I wish to thank you with the bottom of my heart because you have exposed your true colors. You are a gatekeeper.

Hey Doug, is that really you? I thought you were hanging it up. That's what you said a month or two ago, wasn't it? You said you were retiring for a while. Then all of a sudden (not long afterwards) you came back.

I thought you were one of the good guys. I don't know what the deal is with YOU, but I know unequivocally, along with the majority of your readers (quite a few comments today, no?), that 9/11 was an inside job, inside out, upside down, and every other way you turn it.

And I also know that YOU KNOW it was too. Is it cowardice or something else? Maybe you should just go back into retirement and leave the establishment-debunking to those of us who are willing to put our necks on the line, no matter the cost.

Can't find the thing to take me off your list. Just take me off. Your vision is strictly skewed to certain left wing issues like partisan politics, faggots and overbearing women. You can't see real issues because you won't. Sorry I subscribed.

Tony B.

Doug...They got to you..., didn't they ? As a FAA Cert.Pilot of both the 757/767, I can assure you that NO Terrorist on the Pentagon's Hit Parade were involved in flying those planes...Go check out "Operation Home-Run" and see how it was done. Too many things simple don't add up Doug...I will continue to read your interesting articles but this one is a blind-eye on your record - they got to you...Doug

every this is bogus about the offical story..
I watched that day and I knew it was no wild arab with box cutters who stood down norad during live drills.
The investigation was on going to the trillions of dollars mission from the pentagon. and the plane just happened to land in the same place to distroy the evidence.

For the people of the United Sates OF AMerica . you should investigate 911 serously, no matter which way it goes.
They have lied about everything else what makes you so sure they didn't lie about 911. The evidence is over welming that the offical story is bullshit. www.wtc7.net
explosions were heard and felt before the planes hit see the tesimony that was hidden from the 911 commisioners report. See the Janitors of 911. who helped their friends with the skin rollong down their arms from the explosions. Doug please for the sake of the truth understand that it was an inside job. read the PNAC document ,Operation nothwoods.
God help save the United States of America.

Like the Chicago Police Riots in 1968, the media's perspective on who committed what changed pretty quickly as the PTB (Powers that Be) dictated what "really happened." This is another example of that media willingness to be corrupted.

Doug, explain to us why all the "Loose Change" quoted experts so quickly changed their analysis? New data? From where? Threat of unemployment or worse? Some of that happened. Explain that. What freaking happened to the plane that hit the Pentagon. "Vaporized" airplane? The engine parts, designed for operation temperatures well beyond fuel burn temps (1100F) vaporized? How do you "speculate" that happened?

Hopefully, even you will admit that spending a little time on a simulator is a long ways from flying a 747? Please admit to being that smart. Some of these maneuvers were pretty sophisticated. Explain that, without resulting to brief dismissals of "speculation."

Do some work. Pretend you're a journalist. Take the detailed questions from "Loose Change" and disprove them using real sources. Please spare us the unnamed taxi drivers. They do not qualify as experts or even witnesses.

I agree all the points in the article. Of course a plane hit the Pentagon (Where else did that flight go if it didn't crash?). Also #7 came down due to falling debris - I can believe it.

What I still cannot believe, but we have all witnessed first-hand, is the colossal, monumental, total and utter failure, and gross incompetence of the worst kind, when we pay 100's of billions for defense and still 9.11 happens. And then the Katrina aftermath.

I don't swear my life on unproved views, JFK alternative views included. But on 9.11 methinks I certainly smells a rat, just as the official JFK story stinks.

Does the OFFICIAL verson of events....that was NEVER investigated, never corroborated, and NEVER supported by a single shred of evidence pass the SMELL test? Does the official version, offered by the most heinous liars in recent history stand on its merits despite being FULL OF HOLES?

If Doug can offer a single reason he believes the Bushco verssion of events....because of some misguided form of faith (Just trust us)...then we have a discussion.

Hey Doug. Watch Loose Change 2. Google for the free version or shell out a few bucks to non profite truthseekers. Then, and only then. Talk.

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There it is Doug.
I'm not telling you to believe as I believe. This has been the most thought provoking forum I have seen & I thank you for not oulling the plug prematurely.
Your readers are a diverse group and most of us are not sycophants. I and, from what I can see, most of them are well educated & very intelligent. Not even you have the power to make all of us suck-up, especially when you appear to equate conspiracy with nutjobs (not necessarily your term).
I only want to point out that what we conspiracy theorists have been saying for years has come true. We have been villified & ridiculed. We don't just pull great sounding fiction out of the air & present it as fact. 15 years ago the New World Order was a conspiracy theory. Is it still?
Your request has been granted by numerous posters here today. It's all there for the viewing. Do you really think that the government would be so hell bent to control the internet if there weren't truth in the theories? If you were the only blog the government had to contend with there would be no problem for the government.
I don't know who Lisa Guliani is but I would say she certainly did her homework better than you &, perhaps many of us.
Dammit Lisa, what radio station? I want to listen!!

Your enquiring mind as been switched off, but by whom?
Was it by threats, or by payment? The title page you write under "The Rant" has always been full of objectivity and an excellent source of fine jounalism, something that is in short supply these days. But today you have written an article that can only come under a fuller heading "the Ranting and Ravings of a lunatic". The asylum awaits you, please go along with these nice men in white coats.

WTC7!! WTC7!! WTC7!! WTC7!! WTC7!! WTC7!! WTC7!! WTC7!! WTC7!! WTC7!! WTC7!! WTC7!! WTC7!! WTC7!! WTC7!! WTC7!! WTC7!! WTC7!! WTC7!! WTC7!! WTC7!! WTC7!! WTC7!! WTC7!! WTC7!! WTC7!! WTC7!! WTC7!!
CONTROLLED DEMOLITION!! CONTROLLED DEMOLITION!! CONTROLLED DEMOLITION!! CONTROLLED DEMOLITION!! CONTROLLED DEMOLITION!! CONTROLLED DEMOLITION!! CONTROLLED DEMOLITION!! CONTROLLED DEMOLITION!!

Correct me if I'm wrong but didn't GWB1 give a speech mentioning the NEW WORLD ORDER on 9-11-90. Is that just another coincidence!?! http://question911.com/links.php

So sad. To think I ever had faith in you. The "official Story" reads more like a conspiracy theory. And there are many well educated and informed people, who believe our government was involved.

WTC7WATCHER: what a brilliant anal-ysis.

I bet you're a real hoot in an actual conversation.

Idiot.

OK, so let's say you're right, Doug.

So move forward in time to the deths of Senator Paul Wellstone and that Florida DOT investigator Ray Lemme.

What does your nose tell you about those situations? Take them one at a time please.

80% agree with Charlie Sheen

..and the numbers will continue to grow no matter how much crap you spew

D@mmit, I hate misspellings. I let my emotions override my copy editing.

That was of course supposed to be "deaths" as opposed to "deths"

With all due respect Doug, let's listen to a 9-11 hero and someone that was there!!! ----> http://prisonplanet.tv/audio/300306walter.htm

213 COMMENTS---90% OF THEM IN AGREEMENT, THAT THE US GOVERNMENT PLANNED 911, IN SOME FASHION.

Dear Doug---This must be a New record for comments. PAul Joseph Watson, today on Prisonplanet.com outlined a number of damning reasons why the US government (Those same SOBs, Traitors and bastards you lambasted a few weeks ago)micro-managed 911 months or even years in advance of the "attack". Watson wrote:

"Does fear of Islamic terrorism answer why Pakistan ISI Director General Mahmud Ahmad instructed Ahmad Umar Sheikh to hotwire $100,000 to the alleged 9/11 lead hijacker, Mohammad Atta and why Mahmud Ahmad on the morning of 9/11 was meeting with former clandestine CIA officer and CFR member Rep. Porter Goss (CURRENT CIA DIRECTOR NOW-!)and Skull and Bones/CFR member Senator Bob Graham. Does it answer why since September 4th, he had met with top brass at the CIA, the Pentagon and the White House, including Colin Powell, Richard Armitage, Joseph Biden and George Tenet?"

Riddle me that, Batman? Maybe your government connections can explain THAT away----I CANNOT.

Doug,

Please consider that falling is one thing and disintegrating is another. Collapsing is one thing and disintegrating is another. No one can deny that the Towers disintegrated. The only way to disintegrate a steel and concrete building is to explode it.

I know how very hard it is to contemplate 9/11 Truth, but courage is only one requisite. Another is the willingness to take the time to educate oneself.

Anyone seeing the Towers disintegrate for the first time, as we all did and the newscasters did, would say, as the newscasters said, that they were being exploded by controlled demolition.

In the future, what will seem incredible is that so many people were willing to deny the obvious, simply because the government told them to deny it, and they were afraid to admit the obvious because of its implications about the government.

There are any number of facts that directly refute the "debris made WTC 7 fall" theory. Here are a few:

1. Larry Silverstein, the lease owner, saying in a very public venue (a PBS special) that "they decided to 'pull' it, and then we watched it come down."
2. The video clearly shows that the AC unit on the center of roof starts to fall before the outer walls, indicating that something had knocked out the central load bearing steel frame (a standard demolition technique). This is also true of the antenna on the roof of WTC 1.
3. The building came down in 6.5 seconds, the freefall speed of gravity. This is physically impossible if the frame had any strength at all left.
4. The building collapsed completely into its own footprint, leaving a nice pile with the outside walls on top.

The WTC 7 collapse is what got me started studying 9/11 two years ago, and to this day if I ever have a moment of doubt, all I have to do is remember it.

Only one request for Mr. Thompson - prove what you've claimed. Provide sources for the "experts" who have stated that it doesn't look like a controlled demolition on WTC 7. Provide the names of witnesses who claimed to have seen the 'Boeing' hit the Pentagon. And since you were there at the Pentagon, where there plane parts, was there damage to the lawn, was there just plain logical evidence to prove that an extremely large plane hit the Pentagon? Believe me that this is just the start of the questions you should be answering if you think your credible enough to even approach this topic. What you offered was evidence that you might be a shill.

This is amazing! By standing by the official story the media ‘gate keepers’ are helping to destroy their own credibility.

Doug, this is only just begun.

I love your readers! there is hope for America!

If the government's version is correct let's see some video of a 757 hitting the pentagon? there were 117 video cameras rolling at the pentagon and yet we see nothing! that's because it was all confiscated along with video from nearby businesses, notice how the grass is in perfect shape where the plane hit, I build high end flight simulators, and I invite anyone to fly a 757 on the same route and not leave a 1/4 mile debris field. Notice in the official gov. computer generated version of the impact, they leave the engines off the plane? I am not sure what engineering school they went to? the list goes on and on.

You just need to connect the dots:

JFK - MLK - 9/11 victims

Oswald - James Earl Ray - Osama Bin Laden

al-CIA-duh!

Whoa, wait a sec....
Ok, just thinking out loud here. How would you, if the FBI and Homeland Gestapo is breathing down your neck, get info out?

I'm thinking of what Doug did when he had to rewrite the post in which he told us the that he was under FBI investigation. The post said the same thing the original did except used words like "a federal agency whose name I can't mention" etc etc. leaving it very obvious that your were to read between the lines.

Maybe he's doing this. Risky because unlike the read between the line post, this does, imo, damage his cred.

Ah well, just a thought.

Just out of curiosity, did anyone die in WTC-7?

We saw the fire-ball that burnt one hell of a lot of fuel, if not all of it, when the second plane hit the tower.
Where then did the extra fuel come from that would have been needed to raise the temperature of the 47 huge steel columns to red heat, allowing for the dispersion of heat away from the source by conductivity? The second plane also crashed at an angle into biulding, meaning that the supporting beams on the other side of the building would have very little chance of being subjected to the fire. How did these massive beams reach a temperature that compromised their integrity in such a short time?
The answer is they didn't, they were blown by explosives place during the power-cut the weekend before. Also the security sniffer-dogs had been retired a week before (security, care of Marvin Bush and co.)
The list is endless as is the list of what we are led to believe are pure coincidences.
Coincidences do happen but not on the scale of 911. The laws of physics still applied on that day as the have from time immemorial. The sheeple have suspended their common sense on the words of the biggest lying bastards ever to con a nation.
For the Bush administration their New Pearl Harbour was a gift they made to themselves and the gift still keeps on giving.

Doug-
You've sold out. Hope you enjoy the cash. Loser.

"The U.S. government has consistently blamed me for being behind every occasion its enemies attack it. I would like to assure the world that I did not plan the recent attacks, which seems to have been planned by people for personal reasons. I have been living in the Islamic emirate of Afghanistan and following its leaders' rules. The current leader does not allow me to exercise such operations."
-USAma Bin Laden (CIA code name Jew Tim OSSman when in California buying SAMS from CIA), business partner with Bush family since 1947, brother Salem Bin Laden was George Bush Jr's first business partner in Arbusto Oil in Texas, his other brother Shafig Bin Laden was dining with Sir George Bush Sr Knight of the British Empire and Carlyle Group (owner of Serenity) on 9/11/2001 in Washinton DC, CNN, "Bin Laden says he wasn't behind attacks," September 17, 2001
http://archives.cnn.com/2001/US/09/16/inv.binladen.denial

"It's easy to imagine an infinite number of situations where the government might legitimately give out false information. It's an unfortunate reality that the issuance of incomplete information and even misinformation by government may sometimes be perceived as necessary to protect vital interests."
—US Solicitor-General Theodore "Ted" Olson, in Jennifer K. Harbury vs. United States, at the US Supreme Court, on 17 March 2002 (his wife Barabara Olson, attoney at law and CNN talkinghead disappeared on September 11, 2001, allegedly on American Airlines Flight 77 that never hit the Pentagon)

"The Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone of any significance in the major media."
-William Colby, Director CIA, assassinated 60,000 people via CIA Death Squads in Vietnam Wars with Phoenix Project ("drowned" in a suspicious "canoe crash" while cooking dinner in Washington DC)

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http://radio.indymedia.org/news/2005/10/7209.php

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http://BodyOfSecrets.com

"Towers that fell 'like a controlled demolition'. Planes that vanished then mysteriously reappeared, and crucial evidence that has been lost for ever. In the Pentagon, a top secret team drew up a plan to simultaneously send up two airliners painted and numbered exactly the same, one from a civil airport in America, the other from a secret military airbase nearby. The one from the airport would have military personnel on board who had checked in as ordinary passengers under false names. The one from the airbase would be an empty drone, a remote-controlled unmanned aircraft. Somewhere along their joint flight paths, the passenger-carrying plane would drop below radar height, and disappear, landing back at the airbase and unloading its occupants in secret. Meanwhile, the drone would have taken up the other plane's designated course. High over the island of Cuba, it would be exploded in mid-air after broadcasting an international distress call that it was under attack from enemy fighters. The world would be told that a plane load of blameless American holidaymakers had been deliberately shot down by Fidel Castro's Communists - and that the US had no choice but to declare war and topple his regime. This Top Secret 'agent provocateur' plan - code named Operation Northwoods and revealed in official archives - dates from 1962 when the Cold War was at its height and was declassified in 2000."
-Tony Rennell, London Daily Mail, "9/11 ON TRIAL -Towers that fell 'like a controlled demolition'. Planes that vanished then mysteriously reappeared, And crucial evidence that has been lost for ever. A new book raises bizarre yet deeply unsettling questions about the world's worst terror atrocity…" August 6, 2005
http://www.financialoutrage.org.uk/911_mainstream_media.htm

"Operation NORTHWOODS may be the most corrupt plan ever created by the U.S. government. Operation Northwoods had called for nothing less than the launch of a secret campaign of terrorism within the United States in order to blame Castro and provoke a war with Cuba."
—James Bamford, ABC News, "Friendly Fire - U.S. Military Drafted Plans to Terrorize U.S. Cities to Provoke War With Cuba," May 1, 2001
http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=92662&page=1

"In the early 1960s, America's top military leaders reportedly drafted plans to kill innocent people and commit acts of terrorism in U.S. cities to create public support for a war against Cuba. Code named Operation NORTHWOODS, the plans reportedly included the possible assassination of Cuban émigrés, sinking boats of Cuban refugees on the high seas, hijacking planes, blowing up a U.S. ship, and even orchestrating violent terrorism in U.S. cities. The plans were developed as ways to trick the American public and the international community into supporting a war to oust Cuba's then new leader, communist Fidel Castro. America's top military brass even contemplated causing U.S. military casualties, writing: "We could blow up a U.S. ship in Guantanamo Bay and blame Cuba," and, "casualty lists in U.S. newspapers would cause a helpful wave of national indignation." The plans had the written approval of all of the Joint Chiefs of Staff and were presented to President Kennedy's defense secretary, Robert McNamara, in March 1962. But they apparently were rejected by the civilian leadership and have gone undisclosed for nearly 40 years. The Joint Chiefs at the time were headed by Eisenhower appointee Army Gen. Lyman L. Lemnitzer, who, with the signed plans in hand made a pitch to McNamara on March 13, 1962, recommending Operation Northwoods be run by the military. Whether the Joint Chiefs' plans were rejected by McNamara in the meeting is not clear. But three days later, President Kennedy told Lemnitzer directly there was virtually no possibility of ever using overt force to take Cuba, Bamford reports. Within months, Lemnitzer would be denied another term as chairman and transferred to another job. Ironically, the documents came to light, says Bamford, in part because of the 1992 Oliver Stone film JFK, which examined the possibility of a conspiracy behind the assassination of President Kennedy. "The scary thing is none of this stuff comes out until 40 years after," says Bamford."
—David Ruppe, ABC News, "Friendly Fire - U.S. Military Drafted Plans to Terrorize U.S. Cities to Provoke War With Cuba," May 1, 2001
http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=92662&page=1

"We could blow up a drone (unmannded) vessel anywhere in the Cuban waters. The presense of Cuban planes or ships merely investigating the intent of the vessel could be fairly compelling evidence that the ship was taken under attack. The US could follow with an air/sea rescue operation covered by US fighters to "evacuate" remaining members of the non-existant crew. Casualty lists in US newspapers would cause a helpful wave of national indignation. We could develop a Communist Cuba terror campaign in the Miami area, in other Flordia cities and even in Washington. The terror campaign could be pointed at Cuban refugees seeking haven in the United States. Use of MIG-type aircraft by US pilots could provide additional provocation. Harassment of civil air, attacks on surface shipping, and destruction of US military drone aircraft by MIG type palnes would be useful. An F-86 properly painted would convince air passengers that they saw a Cuban MIG, especially if the pilot of the transport were to announce that fact. Hijacking attampts against US civil air and surface craft should be encouraged. It is possible to create an incident which would demonstrate convincingly that a Cuban aircraft has attacked and shot down a chartered civilian airliner from the United States. An aircraft at Eglin AFB would be painted and numbered as an exact duplicate for a civil registered aircraft belonging to a CIA proprietary organization in the Miami area. At a designated time the duplicate would be subsituted for the actual civil aircraft and the passengers, all boarded under carefully prepared aliases. The actual registered aircraft would be converted to a drone. Take off times of the drone aircraft and the actual aircraft will be scheduled to allow a rondevous. From the rondevous point the passenger-carrying aircraft will descend to minimum altitude and go directly to an auxiliary airfield at Eglin AFB where arrangements will have been made to evacuate the passengers and return the aircraft to its original status. Meanwhile the drone aircraft will continue to fly the filed flight plan. The drone will be transmitting on the international distress frequency "MAY DAY" message stating it is under attack by Cuban MIG aircraft. The transmission will be interrupted by the destruction of aircraft which will be triggered by radio signal. This will allow IACO radio stations to tell the US what has happened to the aircraft instead of the US trying to "sell" the incident. It is possible to create an incident that will make it appear that Communist Cuban MIGs have destroyed a USAF aircraft over international waters in an unprovoked attack. On one such flight, a pre-briefed pilot would fly Tail-end Charlie. While near the Cuban island this pilot would broadcast that he had been jumped by MIGs and was going down. This pilot would then fly at extremely low altitude and land at a secure base, an Eglin auxiliary. The aircraft would be met by the proper people, quickly stored and given a new tail number. The pilot who performed the mission under an alias would resume his proper identity. The pilot and aircraft would then have disappeared. A submarine or small craft would distribute F-101 parts, parachute, etc. The pilots retuning to Homestead would have a true story as far as they knew. Search ships and aircraft could be dispatched and parts of aircraft found."
—Jewish Zionist General L.L. Lemnitzer, chairman, Joint Chiefs of Staff at Pentagon, Memo to Secretary of War Robert McNamara - Subject: Justification for U.S. Military Intervention in Cuba - Operation NORTHWOODS, March 13, 1962 (declassifed 2000)
http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/news/20010430/doc1.pdf

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http://radio.indymedia.org/news/2005/09/6758.php

"I don't trust government. And neither should our citizens."
—US Senator Larry Craig, United States Senate, Committee on the Judiciary, "DOJ Oversight: Terrorism and Other Topics", testimony by US Attorney General John Ashcroft re President George Bush Jr.'s Executive Orders to "legalize torture" of US citizens and refusal to release that memo (felony Contempt of Congress), C-SPAN2, June 8, 2004

"If a nation expects to be ignorant and free, it expects what never was and never will be."
—President Thomas Jefferson

"A dictatorship would be a heck of a lot easier, just so long as I'm the dictator. I don't know where Usama is, and I don't care. The Constitution is just a goddamn piece of paper."
-George Bush Jr, convicted drunk driver, convicted cocaine addict, convicted of disobeying a direct order for drug test in TANG, convicted of desertion of Vietnam Wars, arrested for theft, arrested for vandalism, sued for rape, sued under RICO Act for perping the terrorist massacres on 9/11/2001

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I've agreed with much of what you've said in the past. ...sorry, but I've got to strongly disagree with you now. -and so I do:
http://stopthelie.com/doug_thompson.html

Doug,
I know this may be a bitter pill for you to swallow but I would recommend that you take a tour of rense.com or prisonplanet.com.
I realize that old Daryl Smith is trying to bash rense for all of the UFO postings but I’ve noticed something. I can read some of the great, researched articles there & learn so much more than I can listening to Daryl preach his brand only of truth. What the hell, if your senses go into overload on rense, read one of the UFO posts. Sometimes a good laugh can clear your mind & prepare you for more overload. Do you think that we theorists believe every word printed on these sites? Not on your life. Do you think that the articles there are not well reasoned & sourced? Some aren’t. But the majority I see there are written by extremely good, intelligent, well sourced authors, many of whom have better credentials than you.
Jeff doesn’t really write much in the postings so you don’t have to worry about him trying to brainwash you. Skip over the hogshit & you can find pearls & diamonds galore there.
Same with Alex Jones prisonplanet.com. Get over Alex’s plan for God’s new order and there is a wealth of treasure.
It’s not all just a bunch of nutjobs there. Many of the writers have staggering credentials. Give it a try. What the hell, you put yourself on the line to write about something you didn’t research, go to the root. Strikr the Root so to speak.
You may learn something.

Dear Doug did "they" threaten your life, your family, or your livelihood? Let us know so we can continue the fight without u! Where are our vulnerabilities? We have to eliminate or protect our vulnerabilities to be successful! We'll remember all the good work that you did! ------------ R.I.P.

I have just been informed from a member of Liberty Forum that he had suspected Doug Thompson for some time. He made the comment that for all his ranting about Bush being back on the bottle and a whole lot of shit thrown in precise directions, he never got hauled over the coals with libel actions.
Quote "Thompson is a psy-ops shill. How else to explain him not being brought up on slander or liable charges for the ridiculous crap he publishes on his site. Shit like 'The President is on drugs and runs around in a screaming frenzy' or his laughable imminent predictions that never pan out... Sorry, I never bought any of it, it's just a front. He is a CIA man whose real purpose is do spread disinfo/misinfo."
"Best way to avoid suspicion of something is to claim you're a victim of it"

I feel I have to agree with the above statement.

Disregard every single comment related to silverstiens video clip
mentioning they decided to "pull" the building.

Why?

Simple - It takes WEEKS to wire a building the size of
building 7 for implosion. Call and consult with any demolition
expert and/or engineer and they'll clearly explain this to you.

It's obvious that the author of this trash did zero research. In
fact, it would not surprise me if he (Doug) is simply spewing this
to please his gatekeeper superiors.

BTW - Readers, I would save a copy of this page ASAP because it's just a
matter of time before it vanishes... by accident of course.

Hew Doug, instead of you reiterating over and over that you don't
support the theories because of some lame excuse about credentials. Let's
hear you dispute them. Seriously, let's see your "research" and your
contradictions.

I won't hold my breath.

As for your smell test, Doug... it's time for a new nose.

If the government's version is correct let's see some video of a 757 hitting the pentagon?

Ditto to this post

Why won't they release the videos, and why are the American citizens not demanding to see them???

EJ summed it up quite nicely:

Doug-
You've sold out. Hope you enjoy the cash. Loser.
Posted by EJ at March 31, 2006 06:10 PM

With the Truth Movement gaining huge momentum in the past weeks there is a good possibility of bribes and/or threatening going around. If you speak out, there will be millions who have your back. Ideas are bulletproof.

Wow, there isn't enough tin foil in all the world to make hats for this group. It doesn't even seem like the CHB I know and love.

I'm with Doug on 9/11, but disagree with him about Kennedy and King.

No conspiracies theories for me absent PROOF.

You are a sell-out and have absolutely no credibility whatsoever. With all the evidence substantiating the basis of the truth movement, and these truth movement sites have continuously linked to you, you have the audacity to come out with this pile of turd commentary.

Why did you pull your photo? We all know what you look like, is it because you don't want your coward face associated with this article?

I find it very hard that someone like Doug who rant relentlessly that Bushco is a bunch of liars all of sudden takes their word on the official "conspiracy theory". So Doug is saying they haved lied about everything except 9-11.

It is clear from these postings that the CHB audience is not a bunch of dittoheads. Sure a Rush or Hannity can say anything and their listeners/readers will just say amen. But the CHB audience is too smart for that. Maybe it is time you retire again because it is clear that your site attracts too many kooks and conspiracy theorists. However, I doubt if all of posters on here are idiots.

Yes, there are far too many alternative theories out there. And I would agree that some are beyond reason, but one thing that is clear is that Bushco is inherently evil and one should not be surprised if they would do such an evil thing as 9-11 therefore complicity cannot be ruled out.

When I saw this article, my first thought was that Doug wrote it to appease the people in the exec branch who are breathing fire up his ass.

Regarding the topic of government conspiracy: Even if the hijackers could have pulled it off, and even if it really was a Boeing 757 that hit the Pentagon, the possibility still exists that the government was complicit. Perhaps they didn't take part in the planning, but learned of the plot and did nothing to stop it. That's "complicity", too.

The extensive evidence points to the reality that the Straussian Neoconervatives, the architects for Project for a New American Century that is clearly and tragically the basis for Bush administration foreign policy, knew of the planned attack and were complicit in allowing it to happen. Dick Cheney, in fact, was appointed by Bush to follow up on the intelligence forwarded by the Clinton administration, domestic and foreign intelligence sources, and the Hart - Rudman commission warnings. Cheney not only did not follow up, but ignored the warnings. Donald Rumsfeld in June 2001 directed that intercepts of hijacked airliners be cleared through him. Jeb Bush declared a state of emergency in the state of Florida a week before the attack occurred. All three, along with Wolfowitz, Perle, Abrams,Krystol and other influential Sraussian neocons at the time, drafted the charter that called for a new "Pearl Harbor" that would energize popular support for the PNAC initial attacks upon Iran, Iraq and Syria. The evidence for deliberate complicity and facilitation is therefor overwhelming. That's what Doug and the mainstream media need to be investigating, rather than attacking theories that the administration actually planned the attacks.

Reality is that conspiracy theory invariably covers conspiracy fact. The world, mankind, has always run on conspiracy, whether it be business, finance, religion, of domestic and geopolitics. Anytime two or more people or entities formulate a mutually beneificial plan at the expense of others, conspiracy exists. That's reality. Regarding Rumsfeld's role in complicity and facilitation:

From http://www.911review.com/means/standdown.html

The 'Stand-Down Order'
The shocking failure of the air defense system to protect New York City and the capital would seem to require either an incredible series of failures or an order to stop intercepts -- a stand-down order. Yet apparently there have been no cases of military officials disciplined for gross negligence surrounding 9/11/01, nor have there been publicized reports of commanders admitting to having received stand-down orders.

If the stand-down order were disguised as a procedural change, and enacted well in advance, it might be hidden in plain sight.

CJCSI 3610.01A, dated June 1, 2001, required that all requests for asistance in hijackings be approved by the Secretary of Defense. It had an exception for emergencies that would seem to give commanders in the field autonomy in ordering intercepts. However, that exception did not cover requests for "potentially lethal assistance", the kind required to respond to the attack. Hence, this order may have been the long-sought stand-down order.

That this order could, by itself, have frozen the military response to the attack is highly doubtful. It was likely one of a number of "fixes" that included multiple war games planned on the day of the attack. Thus, even if commanders violated standing orders and ordered intercepts of the commandeered jetliners, they would face depleted interceptor resources and corrupted flight data.

The June 1st order apparently gave Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld the legal authority (if not the de facto authority) to prevent intercepts of Flights 11, 175, and 77 by just doing nothing. The following post starts with the June 1st order and goes on about Rumsfeld. It fails to note Reference D, explained in Jerry Russell's stand-down post.

There is a set of procedures for responding to hijackings. In
particular, these procedures were changed on June 1, 2001 while
Rumsfeld was in power as our Secretary of Defense, in a document
called:
"CHAIRMAN OF THE JOINT CHIEFS OF STAFF INSTRUCTION,
J-3 CJCSI 3610.01A"
(http://www.dtic.mil/doctrine/jel/cjcsd/cjcsi/3610_01a.pdf)

"AIRCRAFT PIRACY (HIJACKING) AND DESTRUCTION OF DERELICT AIRBORNE
OBJECTS"

These are the standing orders to the military as to how to
respond to hijackings over United States territory. The June 1
'01 document deliberately changed the existing policies.
Previous directives were issued in 1997, 1986 and before.

What is shocking about this entire sordid episode is the total
disconnect between what Donald Rumsfeld's story alleges
(ignorance of inbound hijacked aircraft), and what these Chief
of Staff Instructions require of the Secretary of Defense:

"b. Support.
When notified that military assistance is needed in conjunction
with an aircraft piracy (hijacking) emergency, the DDO, NMCC,
will:

(1) Determine whether or not the assistance needed is reasonably
available from police or commercial sources. If not, the DDO,
NMCC, will notify the appropriate unified command or NORAD to
determine if suitable assets are available and will forward the
request to the Secretary of Defense for approval in accordance
with DODD 3025.15, paragraph D.7 (reference d)."

"APPROVAL"

The usage of the word "approval" is the major change here to the
existing hijacking response procedures. While the text of the
document tries to link this "approval" to the previous orders
"DODD 3025.15," the approval is now required BEFORE providing any
assistance at all. Previously, approval would be required to
respond to a situation with lethal force.

This June 1st update to the orders stopped all military
assistance in its tracks UNTIL approval from Donald Rumsfeld
(the "Secretary of Defense") could be granted -- which, by his
own admission, it was not. Rumsfeld claimed total ignorance of
the inbound aircraft that attacked the Pentagon (on the opposite
side of the building complex, where a construction project had
been underway) .*

For anyone who is interested, this report contains detailed photos of the damage done to the Pentagon:

http://fire.nist.gov/bfrlpubs/build03/PDF/b03017.pdf

There are closeup photos showing where the right wing impacted the building (Figures 5.8, 5.11 & 5.12 on Pages 27-29). In figure 5.8, note that the damage to the building at the second floor level decreases with the distance away from the main penetration. Where the wingtip hit the 2nd floor exterior column farthest to the right, the concrete is discolored but still intact; the next column to the left has broken concrete on the face, but the steel core post is straight; next to the left, the concrete is mostly gone & the steel core post is bent; and to the left of that one, the steel core post is actually severed and broken rebar is also visible.

Then note who the authors of this reports are: engineers - specifically civil & structural engineers. Not physicists, not computer scientists, not astronomers, not astrologers, but engineers in the pertinent fields.

Doug,
I respect you and your gutsy writing. I spent a lot of time on this and there is no question in my mind the twin towers were brought down by controlled demolition.

However, I don't believe 9/11 was planned by our government. I think the order to bring the buildings down was given under panicky conditions by the New York City Office of Emergency Management. They may have been afraid the buildings were going to cause additional damage to surrounding buildings and many more casualties if they were allowed to come down on their own.

I believe it was a tragically wrong decision made under stressful conditions and without full knowledge of what these structures were capable of withstanding. But they should have owned up to it rather than allow our government to attcack an innocent country. Iraq.

Doug, I have a question.

Why wasn't the head of NORAD relieved of command?
As a matter of fact, why wasn't anyone fired or even demoted after 9/11?

Doug, I would interested to see a follow-up column where you might address some of the suspicious circumstances and "coincidences" surrounding the events of 9.11 that you did not address yet (because I see these issues as the more difficult ones). Not to say whether you believe these or not, just to speculate about the possibilities.

e.g. it seems strange to me that Dubya was on vacation for the whole month of August 01. (talk about a cover up, that is something the media have barely mentioned). Also, the Reichstag fire comparison deserves consideration. It was never "proved" the nazis did it, but it served them well. The neocon PNAC agenda on re-shaping the MidEast has now come to fruition. I also was intrigued by the Payne Stewart plane escort by fighter jets and looked into that. Turns out a General or other high-rank issued an order soon after that in the summer '01 to discontinue the practice of immediately intercepting deviating aircraft. Nice 'coincidence'. Summer '01 there were rumors that Bush issued orders to NOC agents to back-off investigating Osama. And last is the short-selling of stocks -somebody knew beforehand (mossad, cia?)or was it just al-qaida cleverness?

Go ahead and speculate if you will.

This is not the first time I have heard the "unique construction" angle and with all due respect, it is among the most ridiculous arguments I've heard re: 9/11. What kind of architect would design skyscrapers, in the middle of the busiest city in the nation, mind you, that were so critically & fatally flawed? The WTC towers were designed to withstand strikes from large passenger jets. They were designed to withstand once-in-a-millenium hurricanes. The buildings were completely pulverized into dust. If the pancake theory is the truth, where was the large stack of uppermost floors that pulverized the rest of the building?

WTC 7 is always quickly dismissed as if it is an automatic conspiracy whack-job red-flag. Yet there's never any alternate explanation beyond "debris caused structural damage". Debris caused such uniform damage to the structure that it neatly & instantaneously collapsed uopn itself within seconds?

Look, I am not claiming to know what happened that day, or who is responsible. I do not automatically believe everything I read or see on TV or the web. I am not some reactionary that leaps on whatever anti-establishment bandwagon happens by. I am a middle-aged working class American who takes pride in having attempted throughout my adult life to remain as informed and aware as I can in a culture that discourages it mightily. I like to examine the different sides of an issue. I will play devil's advocate simply to discover if what I think I believe is possibly false.

You are entitled to your opinion and I admire you for expressing that opinion. I greatly enjoy your writing and your take on D.C. in general. But I have to wholeheartedly disagree with you on this one. There are simply not enough facts with which to support the "official" story, it is just too full of holes. Alternative media sources are discussing these things because the mainstream won't go near it and we all know why that is the case. It is a sad fact that much disinformation exists on the internet and I would not dispute that many of these self anointed experts are pitching complete bullshit.

That said, look at the source that produced the official explanation. Not exactly a font of veracity there, is it?

Doug,

If the 9/11 events don't pass your smell test, how about the loss of TWA Flight 800? I don't buy the central fuel tank story, do you?

Hell man, do you think that the proof is just out there looking for you? You have to look for the proof & then know what to believe. Edit out the bull & there's plenty there.

Doug,

If the 9/11 events don't pass your smell test, how about the loss of TWA Flight 800? I don't buy the central fuel tank story, do you?

Doug,
You did not pass my smell test.
Nice job sellout.

"All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed.Third, it is accepted as being self-evident."

Arthur Schopenhauer

If the government LET 9-11 happen, then they MADE it happen.

Lisa Guliani
WING TV

Regarding WTC 7.

Larry Silverstein the owner of building 7 said:

“I remember getting a call from the, er, fire department commander, telling me that they were not sure they were gonna be able to contain the fire, and I said, 'We've had such terrible loss of life, maybe the smartest thing to do is pull it.' And they made that decision to pull and we watched the building collapse."

http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/cutter.html

Check the video of him saying that by clicking on [wmv download] after you go to above link.

Ted Neros, did the NYC OEM place the charges in the buildings in a 'panicky' hour? What the hell can you be thinking man?!

Why don't you talk to some of the people that were actually there:

http://www.greaterthings.com/News/daily/2006/03/30/6600920_WTC_survivor_wind/

Please explain in detail exactly how a "giant" pool of molten metal radiated for WEEKS
inside the trade center ruble. The combustibles including the jet fuel could not
have possibly caused that much heat especially for weeks let alone even one hour. If it
did, it would defy the known laws of physics.

Hmmmm the collapse themselves defy the laws of physics in several ways.

I guess they suspended the laws of physics that day along with the stand down.

Doug = Shill... nothing more.

- Insider trading days before 9/11 was just another co-inky-dink too right?

- Funny how a truck full of suspicious foreigners that included explosive
residue was stopped and held and later released... yep another fluke.

It's not like there's just a handful of anomalies... there are hundreds if
not thousands. They are clear as day and can hold up in court on their own.

How do you explain the cell phone calls made on 9-11, Doug, considering that this technology was being introduced in 2004 and at that time, was still 24 months away from being made available for commercial flights?
Read the press announcement and, er, sniff.

http://www.qualcomm.com/press/releases/2004/040715_aa_testflight.html

American Airlines and QUALCOMM Complete Test Flight to Evaluate In-Cabin Mobile Phone Use

* Print Version

Proof-of-Concept Event Highlights Safe and Reliable Mobile Phone Technology Using CDMA on a Commercial Aircraft

FORT WORTH, Texas and SAN DIEGO — July 15, 2004 — QUALCOMM Incorporated (Nasdaq: QCOM), pioneer and world leader of Code Division Multiple Access (CDMA) digital wireless technology, and American Airlines, the world’s largest carrier, today successfully demonstrated in-cabin voice communications using commercially available CDMA mobile phones on a commercial American Airlines aircraft. Through the use of an in-cabin third-generation (3G) “picocell” network, passengers on the test flight were able to place and receive calls as if they were on the ground.

The proof-of-concept demonstration flight originated out of the Dallas/Fort Worth International Airport. During the approximate two-hour flight, passengers were able to place and receive phone calls and text messages on their mobile phones. Passengers included members of the media and government representatives.

A small in-cabin CDMA cellular base station on the plane, that uses standard cellular communications, was connected to the worldwide terrestrial phone network by an air-to-ground Globalstar satellite link.

The information gathered during this proof-of-concept demonstration flight will be used to further research into the quality, convenience and safety of communications with personal CDMA mobile phones carried by passengers on a commercial aircraft.

“We are pleased to have worked so closely with American Airlines to complete this proof-of-concept demonstration for the in-flight use of 3G CDMA technology,” said Dr. Irwin Jacobs, chairman and CEO of QUALCOMM. “Together, we have anticipated the future needs of wireless subscribers in the airline industry and are aggressively driving the delivery of innovative solutions to meet those needs.”

“Today, American Airlines and QUALCOMM showcased their strength as technology pioneers and market leaders in their respective industries,” said Dan Garton, executive vice president of marketing for American Airlines. “American is committed to researching and providing innovative, cutting-edge products and services that enhance our passengers’ traveling experience and give our customers what they value. Even though commercial availability of cell phone use in flight is approximately 24 months away, American Airlines knows that our customers want to stay connected and this proof-of-concept event is an important step in bringing in-cabin wireless services to our customers.”

As a leader in technology, American Airlines continues to explore communication solutions that include broadband wireless connectivity and cellular communication.

QUALCOMM is well positioned to lead the research and development of mobile phone solutions while continuing to work closely with the aviation industry to ensure the use of safe and reliable communications within aircraft cabins. The Company brings a deep understanding of and extensive experience in developing CDMA technology to research and participation with aviation standards groups, such as the Radio Technical Commission for Aeronautics (RTCA), and regulatory bodies, including the Federal Communications Commission (FCC) and Federal Aviation Administration (FAA).

American Airlines is the world’s largest carrier. American, American Eagle and the AmericanConnection regional carriers serve more than 250 cities in over 40 countries with almost 4,200 daily flights. The combined network fleet numbers more than 1,000 aircraft. American’s award-winning Web site, AA.com, provides users with easy access to check and book fares, plus personalized news, information and travel offers. American Airlines is a founding member of the one world Alliance.

QUALCOMM Incorporated (www.qualcomm.com) is a leader in developing and delivering innovative digital wireless communications products and services based on the Company’s CDMA digital technology. Headquartered in San Diego, Calif., QUALCOMM is included in the S&P 500 Index and is a 2003 FORTUNE 500® company traded on The Nasdaq Stock Market® under the ticker symbol QCOM.

Except for the historical information contained herein, this news release contains forward-looking statements that are subject to risks and uncertainties, including the Company’s ability to successfully design, develop the product discussed, the extent and speed to which such products are accepted in the market, change in economic conditions of the various markets the Company serves, as well as the other risks detailed from time to time in the Company’s SEC reports, including the report on Form 10-K for the year ended September 28, 2003, and most recent Form 10-Q.

QUALCOMM is a registered trademark of QUALCOMM Incorporated. All other trademarks are the property of their respective owners.

QUALCOMM Contacts:
Patty Goodwin, Corporate Public Relations
Phone: 1-858- 651-4127
E-mail: publicrelations@qualcomm.com

Other Contacts:
Billy Sanez, Corporate Public Relations
American Airlines
Phone: 1-817-967-1577
E-mail: corp.comm@aa.com

Lisa Guliani
WING TV

Why don't you talk to some of the people that were actually there:

http://www.greaterthings.com/News/daily/2006/03/30/6600920_WTC_survivor_wind/

Please explain in detail exactly how a "giant" pool of molten metal radiated for WEEKS
inside the trade center ruble. The combustibles including the jet fuel could not
have possibly caused that much heat especially for weeks let alone even one hour. If it
did, it would defy the known laws of physics.

Hmmmm the collapse themselves defy the laws of physics in several ways.

I guess they suspended the laws of physics that day along with the stand down.

Doug = Shill... nothing more.

- Insider trading days before 9/11 was just another co-inky-dink too right?

- Funny how a truck full of suspicious foreigners that included explosive
residue was stopped and held and later released... yep another fluke.

It's not like there's just a handful of anomalies... there are hundreds if
not thousands. They are clear as day and can hold up in court on their own.

Why don't you talk to some of the people that were actually there:

http://www.greaterthings.com/News/daily/2006/03/30/6600920_WTC_survivor_wind/

Please explain in detail exactly how a "giant" pool of molten metal radiated for WEEKS
inside the trade center ruble. The combustibles including the jet fuel could not
have possibly caused that much heat especially for weeks let alone even one hour. If it
did, it would defy the known laws of physics.

Hmmmm the collapse themselves defy the laws of physics in several ways.

I guess they suspended the laws of physics that day along with the stand down.

Doug = Shill... nothing more.

- Insider trading days before 9/11 was just another co-inky-dink too right?

- Funny how a truck full of suspicious foreigners that included explosive
residue was stopped and held and later released... yep another fluke.

It's not like there's just a handful of anomalies... there are hundreds if
not thousands. They are clear as day and can hold up in court on their own.

I also still believe the conspiracy theory. Too many coincidences. Why did these particular planes not have more passengers? Did the hijackers have access to the number of passengers? How? I believe someone here knew there was going to be a strike but perhaps did not realize the magnitude of it. THAt was probably the only shocker to that group. I doubt we will ever know because by the time the truth is due to come out, all those involved will be dead just as in the Kennedy case.

ref: http://fire.nist.gov/bfrlpubs/build03/PDF/b03017.pdf

At the bottom of page 16, Figure 3.9 is a photo taken before the collapse of the Pentagon. It shows the right wing impact damage at the second floor level. The right wingtip hit the column directly behind the fireman on the right. The concrete was knocked off the column to the left of that column.

ref: http://fire.nist.gov/bfrlpubs/build03/PDF/b03017.pdf

At the bottom of page 16, Figure 3.9 is a photo taken before the collapse of the Pentagon. It shows the right wing impact damage at the second floor level. The right wingtip hit the column directly behind the fireman on the right. The concrete was knocked off the column to the left of that column.

How do you explain the cell phone calls made on 9-11, Doug, considering that this technology was being introduced in 2004 and at that time, was still 24 months away from being made available for commercial flights?
Read the press announcement and, er, sniff.

http://www.qualcomm.com/press/releases/2004/040715_aa_testflight.html

American Airlines and QUALCOMM Complete Test Flight to Evaluate In-Cabin Mobile Phone Use

* Print Version

Proof-of-Concept Event Highlights Safe and Reliable Mobile Phone Technology Using CDMA on a Commercial Aircraft

FORT WORTH, Texas and SAN DIEGO — July 15, 2004 — QUALCOMM Incorporated (Nasdaq: QCOM), pioneer and world leader of Code Division Multiple Access (CDMA) digital wireless technology, and American Airlines, the world’s largest carrier, today successfully demonstrated in-cabin voice communications using commercially available CDMA mobile phones on a commercial American Airlines aircraft. Through the use of an in-cabin third-generation (3G) “picocell” network, passengers on the test flight were able to place and receive calls as if they were on the ground.

The proof-of-concept demonstration flight originated out of the Dallas/Fort Worth International Airport. During the approximate two-hour flight, passengers were able to place and receive phone calls and text messages on their mobile phones. Passengers included members of the media and government representatives.

A small in-cabin CDMA cellular base station on the plane, that uses standard cellular communications, was connected to the worldwide terrestrial phone network by an air-to-ground Globalstar satellite link.

The information gathered during this proof-of-concept demonstration flight will be used to further research into the quality, convenience and safety of communications with personal CDMA mobile phones carried by passengers on a commercial aircraft.

“We are pleased to have worked so closely with American Airlines to complete this proof-of-concept demonstration for the in-flight use of 3G CDMA technology,” said Dr. Irwin Jacobs, chairman and CEO of QUALCOMM. “Together, we have anticipated the future needs of wireless subscribers in the airline industry and are aggressively driving the delivery of innovative solutions to meet those needs.”

“Today, American Airlines and QUALCOMM showcased their strength as technology pioneers and market leaders in their respective industries,” said Dan Garton, executive vice president of marketing for American Airlines. “American is committed to researching and providing innovative, cutting-edge products and services that enhance our passengers’ traveling experience and give our customers what they value. Even though commercial availability of cell phone use in flight is approximately 24 months away, American Airlines knows that our customers want to stay connected and this proof-of-concept event is an important step in bringing in-cabin wireless services to our customers.”

As a leader in technology, American Airlines continues to explore communication solutions that include broadband wireless connectivity and cellular communication.

QUALCOMM is well positioned to lead the research and development of mobile phone solutions while continuing to work closely with the aviation industry to ensure the use of safe and reliable communications within aircraft cabins. The Company brings a deep understanding of and extensive experience in developing CDMA technology to research and participation with aviation standards groups, such as the Radio Technical Commission for Aeronautics (RTCA), and regulatory bodies, including the Federal Communications Commission (FCC) and Federal Aviation Administration (FAA).

American Airlines is the world’s largest carrier. American, American Eagle and the AmericanConnection regional carriers serve more than 250 cities in over 40 countries with almost 4,200 daily flights. The combined network fleet numbers more than 1,000 aircraft. American’s award-winning Web site, AA.com, provides users with easy access to check and book fares, plus personalized news, information and travel offers. American Airlines is a founding member of the one world Alliance.

QUALCOMM Incorporated (www.qualcomm.com) is a leader in developing and delivering innovative digital wireless communications products and services based on the Company’s CDMA digital technology. Headquartered in San Diego, Calif., QUALCOMM is included in the S&P 500 Index and is a 2003 FORTUNE 500® company traded on The Nasdaq Stock Market® under the ticker symbol QCOM.

Except for the historical information contained herein, this news release contains forward-looking statements that are subject to risks and uncertainties, including the Company’s ability to successfully design, develop the product discussed, the extent and speed to which such products are accepted in the market, change in economic conditions of the various markets the Company serves, as well as the other risks detailed from time to time in the Company’s SEC reports, including the report on Form 10-K for the year ended September 28, 2003, and most recent Form 10-Q.

QUALCOMM is a registered trademark of QUALCOMM Incorporated. All other trademarks are the property of their respective owners.

QUALCOMM Contacts:
Patty Goodwin, Corporate Public Relations
Phone: 1-858- 651-4127
E-mail: publicrelations@qualcomm.com

Other Contacts:
Billy Sanez, Corporate Public Relations
American Airlines
Phone: 1-817-967-1577
E-mail: corp.comm@aa.com

Lisa Guliani
WING TV

Doug,

In November 2005, you released an article entitled, "GOP memo touts new terror attack as way to reverse party's decline".

I wrote you, and asked for you to either send me a copy of this memo, or to post it online so people could download it. I never heard from you.

Today, you report that, "I know my government. They're just not good enough to pull off something like this."

Which is it Doug?

Also... please answer this one question for me.

Why didn't Bush want to investigate 9/11?

How do you explain the cell phone calls made on 9-11, Doug, considering that this technology was being introduced in 2004 and at that time, was still 24 months away from being made available for commercial flights?
Read the press announcement and, er, sniff.

http://www.qualcomm.com/press/releases/2004/040715_aa_testflight.html

Lisa Guliani

ref: http://fire.nist.gov/bfrlpubs/build03/PDF/b03017.pdf

At the bottom of page 16, Figure 3.9 is a photo taken before the collapse of the Pentagon. It shows the right wing impact damage at the second floor level. The right wingtip hit the column directly behind the fireman on the right. The concrete was knocked off the column to the left of that column.

WOW, In opinion its seems you were compromised with this story today. Two things look at the Bankers Trust building that is still standing with a huge gash from the 8th flr to 34th flr. ANd guess what it was closer to the towers than WTC 7 and after 5 yrs this steel structure is STILL STANDING?? How can this be I thought that a fire small, med or large can create a Building to implode in NO TIME. Also you need to read the paper released by the Dean of the Kennedy School on the Pro Israeli lobby and American Forgien policy. Probably SO true especially when the Dean will be stepping down this SUMMER?? How about that, who has the power. Bin Laden in a CAVE?? Maybe it would be cheaper for the USA to acquire this CAVE TECH it will save all of us (taxpayers) Alot of money, since Rumsfeld with all the TEch and money cannot find him. Well I will fill you in on my opinion this guy has been dead over 5 yrs. And all this terror is sythentic so the Government can do what ever they want to do because of "FEAR" and this INVISIBLE ENEMY. What a joke!imho

Hey Lisa:

Great job, Doug imho has be compromised, imho, this is a huge swing we must ask WHY??

Hey Doug the Bankers Trust building is still standing after 5 yrs WOW a steel building still standing how can this be.

Joe

And why ON EARTH should we believe ANYTHING this Administration says regarding 9/11?

Kudos to Jon Gold. I remember that column of Doug's too. Very Good Point.

And why ON EARTH should we believe ANYTHING this Administration says about 9/11?

And why ON EARTH should we believe ANYTHING this Administration says about 9/11?

And why ON EARTH should we believe ANYTHING this Administration says about 9/11?

Sorry about that... it duplicated my posts...

You cannot be unaware of the Project fror the New American Century. You cannot be unaware of its signers and its intentions, or NORAD's 'war games' on 9/11. You cannot be unaware of the overwhelming motive of their treason, and many other benifits to have this 'happen'. Who benefits?

I can only conclude you have set up all of your straw man arguements and have ignored the mountain of evidence to cover up what is the greatest crime in American history.

You sir, are a disgrace.

What's being falsely called conspiracy theories is just patriotic Americans and other concerned citizens of the world community trying their best to do the honest investigations of important crimes like 9/11 that our blatantly corrupt government and media criminally refuse to do. It's shameful for you to disparage these grassroots efforts with the progandist term "conspiracy theories" as well as call for support of the "official" stories put out by the government on events such as 9/11. The American people are fed up with being ruled over by scoundrels and traitors who continually play us for fools and patsies. The findings of independent investigations into 9/11 for instance, make far more sense that the "official" government story ever will! You always speak of having been a government insider, in this piece you sure sound like one to me!

You cannot be unaware of the Project fror the New American Century. You cannot be unaware of its signers and its intentions, or NORAD's 'war games' on 9/11. You cannot be unaware of the overwhelming motive of their treason, and many other benifits to have this 'happen'. Who benefits?

I can only conclude you have set up all of your straw man arguements and have ignored the mountain of evidence to cover up what is the greatest crime in American history.

You sir, are a disgrace.

What's being falsely called conspiracy theories is just patriotic Americans and other concerned citizens of the world community trying their best to do the honest investigations of important crimes like 9/11 that our blatantly corrupt government and media criminally refuse to do. It's shameful for you to disparage these grassroots efforts with the progandist term "conspiracy theories" as well as call for support of the "official" stories put out by the government on events such as 9/11. The American people are fed up with being ruled over by scoundrels and traitors who continually play us for fools and patsies. The findings of independent investigations into 9/11 for instance, make far more sense that the "official" government story ever will! You always speak of having been a government insider, in this piece you sure sound like one to me!

The Pentagon - sniff, doug, sniff!!

Chronological arguments:

1) The complex plot was never discovered by Intelligence.

2) 19 "hijackers" evaded security on 4 flights from 3 International airports.

3) Hani Hanjour visually navigated an aircraft he had never flown the likes of over territory he had never seen from the Ohio/Kentucky border. (After brushing up on the 757 manual in the car on the way to the airport which he left in the car).

4) He violated secure airspace without intercept even though they had the transponder off for 42 minutes.

5) He passed the unsecured White House and flew over the totally unobstructed front of the Pentagon where the "brass" has their offices.

6) He entered Reagan International airspace while performing a 270 degree turn with a 7000 foot drop in altitude in 2.5 minutes.

7) He chose the most obstructed approach path possible out of all 5 sides of the building.

8) He hit 5 lamp poles, a fence, a 39,500 pound generator trailer, two cable spools, two construction trailers and a tree in order to hit the building.

9) He chose the only portion of the building that was being blast reinforced for a terrorist attack that was due to be completed that day. It was also the least populated section of the building.

10) He made an entire 757-200 vanish in between the first and second floor of the Pentagon which is only 12 feet high between slabs, except for mostly pieces of the aircraft that happened to have lettering from AA livery which is a very small percentage of the exterior surface area of the aircraft (No tail, no wings, no engines, and no horizontal stabilizers). He did not touch the lawn in the process.

11) The aircraft mysteriously slid through 310 feet and 3 rings of the Pentagon resulting in a near perfectly round hole 9 foot in diameter that not one engineer offered an explanation for in any of 4 official reports.

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Post Incident Arguments:

The FBI confiscated videos from local businesses at about the same time water was initially being put on the building fire.

The Pentagon denied having security video. Then they admitted they had video after 5 frames were leaked. They have the wrong date, the aircraft is hidden by a foreground object and one frame was artificially lightened from the source.

The FBI admits to having the video, aircraft wreckage, two black boxes and the hijackers unidentified remains. They refuse to positively identify the remains, release the videos or let the media see the wreckage and mysteriously the last minutes of the cockpit voice recorder are missing.

The Pentagon ASCE Building performance report was written after the building was demolished with no physical inspection of the evidence. There is photographic proof that somebody falsified the condition of at least one pillar near the anomalous exit hole.

The NTSB was denied a crash investigation by the FBI and there is no official federally required accident report for any of the four aircraft that day.

The head Virginia Medical Examiner was refused any participation in the human remains. The remains were removed under armed guard and taken to Dover AFB, Delaware. Despite the same heat that melted an entire 757-200 they claim to have positively identified all but 5 remains from the Pentagon and Flight 77.

There are no Arab names on the original passenger list or the official autopsy report.

There is not a single ounce of evidence regarding passenger seats, luggage or aircraft cargo.

“It was a big machine, more than 50 yards long, it wings equal in area to the floor space of a three-bedroom suburban house. Empty it weighed as much as a diesel locomotive. In addition to the fuel in its belly, and the luggage and U.S. mail* in its holds, the plane carried two pilots, four flight attendants and 58 passengers...more than 600,000 airframe bolts and rivets, and sixty miles of wire.”
(The Virginia-Pilot - Norfolk, Va. - Sept. 7, 2002 - Saturday Final, Page A1)

Lisa Guliani
WING TV

Read 9/11 on Trial.

This material proves without any doubt that all three building
were brought down with explosives. There's no conspiracy theory,
no B.S., no hype and no motive other than proving the government
lied.

http://www.wingtv.net/911ontrial.doc/911ontrialindex.html

And once again... people, stop posting the garbage about
silverstien claiming they "pulled" it.

It takes TEAMS of experts WEEKS to wire a building for
demolition, even longer for skyscrapers of this size.

To those who keep referring to the "pull it" claim:

Do you "honestly" think a building (let alone three) can be wired
for demolition in just a few hours with ZERO pre-notification. Are
you out of your mind?

THINK!

Take a step back, look at the clear evidence and all of the
documentation and start putting 2 & 2 together. Use your noggin
guys.

Doug - enjoy the perks you sell out.

OK, here's the deal, the level of secrecy demanded by the Bush administration would invite conspiracy theories in any event. So what are they hiding? If there is no involvement on their part, why aren't they digging like mad for the truth - and inviting the media to report it?

Something doesn't pass the smell test alright - but it isn't any of the various conspiracy theories EXCEPT the conspiracy theory that the Bush administration has been trying to sell from the beginning - that a rougue son of his family's old business partner is solely responsible for 9/11. This is such a bunch of shit. I don't pretend to understand what really went down, but I know lies and deceit when I see them, and the Bushies have surrounded this whole event with a retinue of unsupported myths. And worse, they have used their distorted version of events to support a whole series of evils - from domestic civil rights restrictions to foreign incursions.

Don Rumsfeld called the unfortunate inmates of Gitmo "the worst of the worst" but I think that more accurately describes the Bush administration.

May we have the will and luck to survive them.

Kudos to Jon Gold. I remember that column of Doug's too. Very Good Point.

Wow Doug, I am saddened at the tone of your article and clearly the lack of effort you have put in to the questions and yes evidence Doug. If you had made an attempt to view even the basic videos available you would know that there is an engineer from MIT that has agreed with the 911 truth movement. There is also a physics professor Steven Jones. Go to Scholars for 911 truth and read some of the names Doug. But what I may be most shocked at is your belief that this administration is incompetent, I beg to differ but I dont think you know your government at all, everything they do is well planned so they and their corporate buddies make maximum bank, they dont care about this country, dont you understand that by now?? Youve shown me something about you Doug that I didnt see until today, and it smells Doug it really smells.

"Kudos to Jon Gold. I remember that column of Doug's too. Very Good Point."

Thanks.

This isn't rocket science people.

Bush asked Tom Daschle to limit the scope of the Senate investigations. He fought against the family members for 441 against the creation of the so called, "9/11 Commission". He first appointed Henry Kissinger to lead the charge, and when the family members questioned Kissinger about his business dealings, he opted out. Then, Bush appoints Tom Kean, a known oil man, to head the Commission. He then puts a members of the Bush Administration in charge of the 9/11 Commissions' investigations, Philip Zelikow. The family members fought for Philip Zelikow's resignation because of the obvious conflicts of interest, and were denied. The Commission's mandate was to provide a “full and complete accounting” of the attacks of September 11, 2001 and to give recommendations as to how to prevent such attacks in the future. Do you think they gave a "full and complete accounting"? Where is mention of Building 7? Where is mention of the Wargames taking place? Where is Norman Mineta's testimony? Where is Sibel Edmonds' testimony? Why did the President refuse to testify publicly, under oath, and not without his trusty sidekick Dick Cheney at his side?

You know what... I'm glad they sold so many copies of the 9/11 Report. It has now become a piece of evidence in the case of the People of the United States vs. The Bush Administration & Friends.

GOP TOUTS NEW TERROR ATTACK AS WAY TO AS WAY TO REVERSE PARTYS DECLINE! WHAT'S UP NOW DOUG? IT'S STILL ON YOUR SERVER! THANKS JON! -----------> http://www.capitolhillblue.com/artman/publish/article_7639.shtml

Why don't you investigate the connection into Todd Beamer's father, David Beamer, who was CEO of Legato Systems - and the Pentagon Reconstruction project?
Coincidence...?

Why don't you investigate why Todd Beamer is not showing up on the Social Security Death Index as DEAD on 9-11, or in 2001, or any subsequent year thereafter?

Why don't you look into the Flight 93 Passenger List Oddities?
See http://www.wingtv.net article archives or EMAIL me.
I'll be happy to set your nose on straight, Doug.

Lisa Guliani
WING TV

Doug, I don't think you're stupid enough not know that when it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck, it is a duck.

Sheen did it directly. You're doing it indirectly.

Congratulations for the clever move. Finally, this thing is now being dicussed out in the open in your column.

Doug,
are these guys helping a little bit? Since you asked for something more from some credible people is Lisa helping?
When a well-packaged web of lies has been sold gradually to the masses over generations, the truth will seem utterly preposterous and its speaker a raving lunatic. -- Dresden James
Is it all conspiracy lunacy Doug?

Doug, I don't think you're stupid enough not to know that anything that walks like a duck and quacks like a duck is a duck.

Sheen had the courage to do it openly. You are doing it smartly. Congratulations on the clever move. 9/11 questions is now being discussed in your forum openly.

Why don't you investigate the connection into Todd Beamer's father, David Beamer, who was CEO of Legato Systems - and the Pentagon Reconstruction project?
Coincidence...? Do you subscribe to coincidence theories, Doug?

Why don't you investigate why Todd Beamer and others from flight 93 are not showing up on the Social Security Death Index as DEAD on 9-11, or in 2001, or any subsequent year thereafter?

Why don't you look into the Flight 93 Passenger List Oddities?

I'll be happy to set your nose on straight, Doug.

Lisa Guliani
WING TV

Why don't you investigate the connection into Todd Beamer's father, David Beamer, who was CEO of Legato Systems - and the Pentagon Reconstruction project?
Coincidence...? Do you subscribe to coincidence theories, Doug?

Why don't you investigate why Todd Beamer and others from flight 93 are not showing up on the Social Security Death Index as DEAD on 9-11, or in 2001, or any subsequent year thereafter?

Why don't you look into the Flight 93 Passenger List Oddities?

I'll be happy to set your nose on straight, Doug.

Lisa Guliani
WING TV

GOP TOUTS "NEW TERROR ATTACK" TO REVERSE PARTY'S DECLINE! WHAT'S UP NOW DOUG? IT'S STILL ON YOUR SERVER! THANKS JON! GET READY FOR Another 9/11 BEFORE THE MID-TERM ELECTIONS! -----------> http://www.capitolhillblue.com/artman/publish/article_7639.shtml

Doug,
are these guys helping a little bit? Since you asked for something more from some credible people is Lisa helping?
When a well-packaged web of lies has been sold gradually to the masses over generations, the truth will seem utterly preposterous and its speaker a raving lunatic. -- Dresden James
Is it all conspiracy lunacy Doug?
"The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth becomes the greatest enemy of the State." -- Dr. Joseph M. Goebbels
Are you part of the lie? Can you dismiss us as whackos?

Doug,
Your Rant is cavalier. The crime of 9/11/01 is unspeakably hideous, and your pathetic wailing is an insult to all the firemen and EMT's and Port Authority and Police who ran into those towers CONFIDENT THAT THEY WERE NOT ON A SUICIDE MISSION.

http://www.physics.byu.edu/research/energy/htm7.html

Read that. Study it, Doug.

Until you do, STFU about this issue.

Folks, I'm having to shut comments down for a brief period while we move to our new server. Hope to have everything back up and running as quickly as possible.

Doug