First, I'm not surprised. It makes more sense than the 'official' story. I'm also curious about how the report from the Secret Service about Cheney's condition was leaked.

The pool of individuals who personally witnessed what happened on the day of the shooting is small. How do these leaks work since it would seem to be fairly obvious who was talking, and in a case like this the talker would be in some amount of trouble.

Finally, what are the chances of this get mainstream coverage?

It would be nice if there were some honor, openess and guts in Texas law......instead of a total subjugation to the powers that be.......

Very interesting, Doug. BTW, it's Kenedy County with one "n."

Well, you have to take people at their word until that WORD is Proven wrong.

IS the Secret Service report suddenly CLASSIFIED?
Shouldn't be.

Is it being withheld as an internaal priviliged work product??
Shouldn't be.

If this report exists at all it is the right of the people to know the truth. PERIOD.

LET FAUX STEW ON THIS AWHILE

However, anyone with a brain and an ounce of common sense KNOWS that if this report exists (and I am only 50% convinced that it does) with no doubt or disrespect intended to Doug or anyone else, then we ALL KNOW this could have a devastating effect on the future of VP Cheney as the VP.

Not only that, but that the entire surmise to this point that this administration will lie about anything to anyone at will to get what they want. AGREED EVERYONE ??

For the benefit of those who insist on making love to the corpse of what was once the GOP, remember that the so called assault weapons ban was passed with bi-partisan support, and that CANDIDATE BUSH promised to renew it. And, he most certainly would have had the sunset not coincided with the election, when BushCo was pulling out all the stops to "win reelection".

Not only are Republican tyrants as afraid of an armed citizenry as any DEM, but we see now that they are dangerous enough with their beloved FUDD guns. Just imagine Cheney hosing down Texas with a detachable magazine-fed self loading shooting iron!

After all that the NRA has done for the GOP, Cheney couldn't allow a report of "alcohol involved negligent discharge with injury" to be filed, because the DEMS would be tripping over themselves to outlaw the consumption of booze while hunting any federally regulated game. (which includes everything but groundhogs and coyotes)

Let's not kid ourselves. The neocons believe that the 2nd amendment protects their right to own Elmer Fudd Commemorative Model Shotguns, (shhh, be vewy, vewy kwiet!) and not much else.

This unfortunate incident could have adversely affected them. After all, Scalia and Jeb "I shot a killdeer?" Bush both hunt, and they certainly don't want to be told that they can't get liquored up if they choose to do so.

If this is really true--and who knows, these days, about ANYTHING in this land of relative everything--it is what I thought when I first heard the story. It would explain the odd parts of the story, like why there was no official police presence in a more timely fashion and why all was put on "hold" until next morning. Not only did everyone get a chance to "get the story straight" (read: "Let's make sure we're all telling the same lie"); it also gave Cheney time to get the alcohol out of his system and the slur out of his speech. It wouldn't have been wise, from a self-interest point of view, for him to speak to the police, the press, or the President in his impaired state.

If this report does exist why dont you file for a copy under the freedom of information law? The response to the request will prove interesting, even more interesting than the content of the report itself. Whether Chaney was drunk or not is relatively unimportant. What is important is whether or not or to be more precise the extent to which the Administration not only manages the news but distorts the truth.

I do not doubt this one bit, nothing this administration would do or has done would surprise me, but just to be sure: you aren't shitting us?

So what else is new?

Interesting story, and I wouldn't be inclined to doubt the likelihood of it being truth. However, I'd really have to see the report in order to move it from the 'speculation' file to the 'fact' file.

I wonder if some legal mind somewhere could file charges against him on behalf of The People of the United States. It shouldn't be any problem to get signitures on a petition.

If this Secret Service report is accurate and classified I can assure you one thing..THE GREAT DEECLASSIFIER - DICK CHENEY won't be the one to de-classify it.

Thanks for getting the info, and posting it. Glad your sources are working this, and that you're there and getting out the info. Maybe if we all sent hard copies of the article to the national editors at the Washington Post and the New York Times, they'd have to pay some attention. My copy's going in the mail today.

Ever heard the story about the boy who cried wolf? That's what the left has become, and in this case the villagers are the independents, the moderates, the one's whose votes you need to win elections. They have tuned you out, you only play to your core audience that shares your blind belief that the republicans are all-evil and you will try to do anything to destroy them.

You are not helping our cause. You make it much harder for people to distinguish between us, the moderate, independent thinkers who are looking out for all our constituents, and you the wacko-left.

H E L L O.........REMINDING EVERYONE THAT THIS MAN
AND THIS ADMINISTRATION AND ALL OF ITS SHADOWY SHIFT SLIMEY CRIMINAL WAYS... HAIL FROM TEXAS OR OWN A GOOD PART OF ITS CITIZENSHIP...WHAT ELSE COULD BE EXPECTED FROM THEM & THARS Y'ALL ??

Cheney felt that having someone else tell the story, a day later, to a local news outlet, so that they could post it on their rinky-dink website, was the right thing to do. The only lower-impact way to release this information would have been by passenger pigeon.

No duh!!!

Although "officially" this will never become more than just "rumor" and/or "opinion"...the truth is as obvious as the smirk on his face.

O.J.'s pleas of innocence are more convincing.

If Secret Service agents were aware of Cheney's inebriation while he was carrying a weapon and failed to act to protect him and others, then they have failed in their duty and should be held culpable in the shooting that occured.

Just like John Edwards said. There two forms of
justice in this country. One for the rich and one for the poor. This is what the Revolutionary War was about ultimately. Things havent changed much.
We've just changed kings a few times.

Yeah, this nails it. Talk to any cop, or any journalist who covers cops (I did, in my youth). 90% of hit-and-run, property-damage-only accidents involve drivers who were drinking, because they correctly perceive that the rap for leaving the scene of a property-damage accident is less than the rap for DUI (it's quite otherwise for personal-injury accidents, of course). If they run, the chances are good that they'll have gotten the alcohol out of their system before the cops catch up with them.

This is really the only possible explanation for Cheney's conduct. He was in a controlled environment in a county whose law-enforcement structure was owned by his host(ess). Far better for him to take the heat for the delay than to face up to a felony charge of hunting while impaired.

It'll be interesting to see whether the Secret Service report ever reaches the light of day. Documents do tend to surface, sooner or later, and Doug Thompson's account of its contents does resonate with cop-talk, the stilted officialese of police reports ("consuming alcohol" rather than "drinking"; "visible signs" instead of just "signs," etc.). Familiar lyrics, and I remember them well.

But I'm just as glad they covered it up. Cheney is the Dems' best campaign asset for '06. I pray that I'm right in thinking that Dubya is too dumb to figure that out. Rove isn't, but he has too many troubles of his own to focus on ushering Cheney out the door. Dick Cheney is the face of the contemporary Republican party, and decent people everywhere should miss no opportunity to hammer this point home.

Ah....how would someone like YOU be privy to secret service documents?
Please post the copy of the report
Also, please supply the documents pertaining to VP Cheneys previous 2 convictions for DUI
In addition, provide the information on the doctor you make reference to

Otherwise this is all just beerhall blather

Have any proof to back this "story" up?

How did you get Secret Service documents about the VP when no real media source has seen them or even mention them.?

Come on...we are not dumb.

If cars and booze don't mix, then WHY do guns and booze mix? WHY don't the "laws of the land" pertain to one and all? NO ONE should be exempt from the laws, NO ONE!If, in fact, Cheney was drunk then he should be charged with wreckless endangerment of another person REGARDLESS of who and what he is.

Given George's and Dick's history of substance abuse, and the length of time before this hit the press, sobering up was the logical suspicion and now you've confirmed this. If only American's had the guts to remove this regime, preferably by force, but at last, by any means. The damage to this country's place in the world, in many ways, is irreparable. Goddamn those bastards for this.

That does it, Doug. Your driving privileges are hereby revoked. It is decreed that you will stay put.

When I first heard the shooting stories I wondered was it
going to be used to get rid of guns or Cheney. But perhaps
the real purpose is to alert us to the lateness of the hour. www.cuttingedge.org/news/n1875.cfm & for full details at cuttingedge.org/news/n1739.cfm I wonder just how the facts got leaked out but Rev. 13:16-18 will be soon fulfilled. The following article explains just how it will be done.
If you are bold daring and not afraid of the truth 'the truth will set you free' then please
check out www.thespectrumnews.org
www.americaslastdays.com/boldea.htm
And for a laugh
http://stevequayle.com/News.
alert/06_Photo_of_Day/060127.photo.of.day.html

The US Government is no longer a legal government. Former military members should remember their lifelong vow to defend the Constitution of the US from "ALL enemies, foreign and DOMESTIC". It is now time to start purging Democrats and Republicans from this great land of ours. These traitorous vermin must be exterminated before America can once again be the land of the free.

Lots of comments today. Figured that when we did the story. Will try to answer some of the questions:

1--We don't have copies of the report. We never said we did. I've talked to several sources who have seen it and read it and all say the same thing about what's in it.

2--Filing a FOIA request for Secret Service documents is a waste of time. They are exempt from the Freedom of Information Act.

3--Secret Service agents are human. They get angry about the abuses they see. Sometimes that anger spills over and they talk about it.

4--For those who wonder why someone like me would have such sources, I worked inside the GOP political system for several years, including stints on Capitol Hill and the White House. A number of my friends still work there and they are fed up with what is happening to our country.

5--Based on our sources, I have no doubt the report exists. I also, as stated in the column, have no doubt that it will never see the light of day. If it has not already been destroyed it soon will be. That's the way this White House operates.

Thanks for commenting.

Doug

If Dick Cheney can bypass his conviction to the law everyone in the state of Texas jailed should be release. The is only one justice and it applies to all. That's il

Now he's been hunting in Pennsylvania:
http://pittsburghlive.com/x/tribune-review/trib/newssummary/s_425733.html

Doug, too bad you closed on a defeatist note with the belief that Cheney's drunkenness never seeing the light of day. Or the Doctor being hushed up. Otherwise, I really liked the article and the info you provide. Am I surprised? Hardly. Thanks for the good report.
Sd

Scott:

Doctors can always hide behind doctor-patient privilege.

As for the report, I was surprised as anyone that it was put in writing. Knowing how such things work convinces me that it hit the shredder even before our story came out.

Doug

Well, here's hoping that whoever decided to leak this info will also be willing to somehow squirrel a copy of the report out as well. If one thing can leak, so can the other.

I do note, though, that there is a lot of negative undertone in this account, as well as in a few comments, with regard to guns. Guns aren't the problem, people. The idiots using them are the problem. Drunken driving is dangerous - we don't try to limit the types of cars on the road or outlaw the cars altogether; yet cars have frequently been used as weapons. Instead, we go after the drivers. Likewise with guns. Don't blame the gun for the stupidity of its handler.

I posted this on Air America Monday AM. Of course he was drunk.

Dear Ms Matalin,
I am an admirer of both you and your husband. I have his book "Had Enough" on my desk as I write this. I am a lifelong democrat.
I write this to respond to your appearance on "Meet The Press" yesterday.
The average yokel such as myself, having been involved in a shooting accident in which another person had received potentially life-threatening wounds, would be required to submit to an interview with law enforcement at the scene of the event as would all others (average yokels) involved who might have relevant information.
The impression I was left with in the handling of this incident is that the VP is above the law and the witnesses were not average yokels. Cheney's elevated position somehow gives him immunity from the usual methods of investigation and forensic analysis. One of the first things that officers of the law would normally look for in many types of accidents is the involvement of alcohol. Alcohol is also one of the first things that the average yokel would look into.
Apparently alcohol is not a common cause of accidents in the Lone Star State and the process of investigation is considered complete when the shooter's representative calls in an explanation.
The consensus among the average yokels around here is that Cheney was probably half drunk, the law does not apply to the powerful and the place to drive or shoot drunk is Texas, unless you're an average yokel.
Well anyway sorry about your week. I do admire your work and tell Mr. Carville that he wrote a book that I wanted to write.
Bob Higgins
Dayton, OH

rlh974@yahoo.com

Thanks for the follow up, Doug.

That's the really frustrating thing about the facts on the ground in the neocon government: if it doesn't benefit them to leak it, you won't be able to prove it until yet another whistleblower spills the beans. And even then, the neocon faithful don't care.

But thanks for trying to keep the info flowing.

Sorry, you are full of crap. I've covered details like this, and if the USSS had preceived the VP to be drunk and others around him, they would have shut down the hunting party.

The worse times the USSS used to have was when the Clinton's would physically go at it. They had to make the decissions on when to protect the President from the First Lady.

Get over it, you lost the election twice.

One has to wonder on what basis the SS can tell someone to keep silent, or what consequences they can visit on someone who doesn't take their orders.

So there NO SUBSTANTIATION......NONE....NOT ONE SHRED OF EVIDENCE to support these allegations.....just more rants from some left wing Bush hating.....faux media person....

Just one more exhibit of the Old Boys' Network using it's magic to free one of their own. Cheney was just having a few with the boys and shootin' a few, just like the good ole days. These old men love to get together, kill things, and talk over their former conquests. Except that this particular ole boy has conquests he can point to every day. Why on earth does a person like this have to prove his manhood by shooting caged birds? A sad commentary on our current paradigm.

THE DRUNKEN GIANT STUMBLES AROUND LOOKING FOR MORE HURT AND PAIN.SMELLING OF THE PREVIOUS NIGHTS CONQUEST IT LURCHES FORWARD FINDING A INNOCENT BEAUITIFULL BIRD.KILL IT. THE GIANT BEAST YELLS 'THERES SOMETHING FREE' IT MUST DIE.AFTER KILLING THE BIRD IT EATS ITS PREY THE GIANT IS HAPPY NOW.THE GIANT NOW COVERED IN BLOOD DEFECATES IN ITS PANTS.AFTER DRINKING THE BLOOD OF ITS ENEMIES IT SCREWS THE LOCAL HORE.LICKING ITS FINGERS IT CLOSES ITS EYES TO HAVE THE GREAT AMERICAN DREAM AND SLEEPS SOUNDLY FOR NOW.

Why are we not surprised? Bush and his gang have lied about everything else, why wouldn't they lie about this? I wouldn't be at all surprised to find out that Cheney was drunk as a skunk

How could anyone say the the VEEP was drunk on the basis of slurred speech and erratic actions, that's just normal for him. Then again maybe he is shit-faced all the time!

I heard about this and I thought that alcohol was probably involved. I mean what is the big deal. It is pretty tough getting hammered when you may be needed to run the free world at any time. We are finding out that Winston Churchill drank a glass of sherry with his morning tea. Cheney may have shot someone while he was pissed. Cheney is a vice-president and he was pissed. One is a crime.

CHENEY- HALIBURTON'S WHORE TOOK OUR COUNTRY TO WAR SO HE COULD WAR PROFITEER AND USURP ALL THE OIL. CHENEY - RESPONSIBLE FOR THOUSANDS OF DEATHS OF BEAUTIFUL YOUNG PEOPLE FOR A BOGUS WAR. CHENEY AKA DR. EVIL VILEST OF THE VILE HE NOW WHORES AROUND BEHIND HIS WIFE'S BACK WITH "BIG GUNS" FREUD WOULD HAVE A FIELD DAY WITH THAT. WAS HE DRUNK? YOU BET!

Slander is a crime. Please name your "sources.." Is this the best you can do? Maybe you were drunk when you wrote this crap. Let me guess...your "sources" also told you that Area 51 was real....and the aliens have Cheney addicted to crack. (They are the same ones Louis Farrakahn talks to...)

Slander is a crime. Please name your "sources.." Is this the best you can do? Maybe you were drunk when you wrote this crap. Let me guess...your "sources" also told you that Area 51 was real....and the aliens have Cheney addicted to crack. (They are the same ones Louis Farrakahn talks to...)

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!

fuck you

Doesn't surprise me a bit. What surprises me are all the people still willing to support Cheney.

So?

People in southern states hunt drunk and shoot each other all the time. It's a common thing to take whiskey to keep you warm when it's 30 degrees and you're hunting the ever elusive duck.

Big deal, it only matters because he's the vice president and people don't like him. If jimbo down the street accidentally shot his friend hunting while drunk and hunting... where's the jail? where's the public outrage? where's the outcry?...

wait, there isn't? because he wasn't important?

I don't like the administration... but seriously, just give it up with this inane bullshit.

I hope your comments are well intention. But I have seen no fact to support your statements ot theories. In America, you are innocent until proven guilty. But if there was a cover-up, it should deserve the same consequences Mrs. Clinton received over the Vince Foster cover-up!

A little fairy told me he wasn't drunk, I believe the fairy before I believe this bullshit.

Oh wait maybe it was a flying elephant with big ears and his name was Dumbo, I can't remember, I was to involved with lying Democrats that day.

Why can't he be indighted and put under oath? He broke the law.

Doug, you seem so convinced that no real evidence of this will ever be found. Garsh, I guess we'll just have to take your word for it then. Those who are lapping your BS up ought to go check out Fark.com and read the comments about what a joke you are.

The error in this sentence shows that the author is not too bright. Gramatically it makes no sense.

"It's a sure bet that is a private doctor who treated the victim of Cheney's reckless and drunken actions can't talk to the public then the memo that shows the Vice President was drunk as a skunk will never see the light of day."

And let's not foget that the shot came from much closer than reported - probably 10-15' given the size of the shot pattern and the depth of penetration.

I'm sorry, you claim that there is a Secret Service report. I'd sure like to see that.

I'd also like to see where you got your info on the sherrif not being allowed on the ranch the day it happened.

Prove It Asshole....You can't...so shut up you "Red Neck" Yahoo

Report? Sources? Seems pretty thin to me.

Unlikely! How many heart-attacks has this guy had? I'm not sure but I believe that Cheney has also had several bypasses as well, hasn't he?

I couldn't help but notice while reading the article that nobody bothered to name any of the people who wrote, or had read, this "report".

Maybe, just maybe... this shooting was just an accident.

This should not really be a suprise to anyone who has educated themself about Dick and this Administration. I just follows the whole theme for the last 5+ Yrs. Lies, secrecy and deception is the way Bush/Cheney & Co. operate. I just wish more people in this country would wake up and see what is happening.

He had one beer at lunchtime and the accident happened at dusk. He sure must have a low tolerance to alcohol. I can see that noting postive would be posted on your totally biased site.

You guys are laughable. Do you really think that the Secret Service would allow Cheney to be "visibly drunk" and handling firearms? Not to mention other people with guns drinking around him. They get nervous when someone in the room has a pair of scissors. You liberal whinebags are ridiculous, but at least you provide me with some laughs.

I heard the author of this story was inebriated when he made it up.

There is one reason this person at this web site makes up this stuff:

To get hits from people so he can drum up some advertising money for his web site.

Personally, I don't know how this author sleeps at night; but then again people in jail for crimes against humanity sleep very well so I suppose this author is one of those raised with parents that never gave a crap he lied his way through life.

You may be the least important person in the world.

Nice beard though.

There is one reason this person at this web site makes up this stuff:

To get hits from people so he can drum up some advertising money for his web site.

Personally, I don't know how this author sleeps at night; but then again people in jail for crimes against humanity sleep very well so I suppose this author is one of those raised with parents that never gave a crap he lied his way through life.

I knew it! who ever admits to one beer?

Cheney shot him more than likely on accident. However he did lie any hunter will tell you that the man was shot at close distance. He's real tuff republican shooting with a 28 gauge shotgun at birds bread in captivity. Oh btw the AFP reported that authorities weren't allowed to interview him.. Well no shit he's the vice president he says jump and people blindly jump. Either way drunk or not he's a fuckin idiot and an embarassment to the 2nd amendment.

Doug, Great Article!..thanks for the Info on Cheney having two Convictions on D.U.I...not supprised,...The doctors showed whitty got blasted on the leftside, when it was the right?...["thats why sometimes they cut off the wrong thing"]...Anyway, keep up the good fight Sir,......this wall of deceit,lies,stupidity, arrogance,and criminal behavior, is starting to crumble.."a lie needs another lie to stand, but the truth stands alone."

Cheney has admitted to having one beer at lunch the day of the shooting. Anyone with an ouce of common sense knows that if you are in trouble and you admit to one beer, odds are that you had more then one beer and have to admit to at least one. Cheney is lying about the circumstances leading up to the shooting of Mr. Whittington. Thank goodness that Mr. Wittington has survived his near fatal brush with the intoxicated VP, if he had died, think of how rule of law, charging the VP with manslaughter, would have been tossed aside under the pretense of national security.

Doug— Is the last sentence in the above article about
Cheney garbled? Though I know what you are saying, it
doesn't make sense to me gramatically... Thanks...
Anyway, I believe what you say in article—your
track record for breaking controversial stories,
which prove to be correct, is nearly perfect!
— Roger

When a situation involving a firearms-related injury occurs and it is reported a day later or anything more than immediately after the injured party is taken to a hospital, I would expect anyone to question the situation.

It is true that if Jimbo down the street shoots Lee-ray I care less than if members of my own government get involved in a similar accident. Guess what? Jimbo doesn't run my country, I happen to hold Cheney to higher standards. Let's assume that Cheney was totally sober at the time, accidently shot a man and DID NOT REPORT IT IMMEDIATELY because that is the official consensus. If you don't question this situation you are blindly following our leaders. I do not take this article as absolute gospel but as a theory it definately makes a hell of a lot more sense than "Cheney was traumatized and we had to wait for him to get over it before reporting it." Apparently even the secret service agents and everyone else present were equally "traumatized" and unable to report this to the authorities.

Wake up

Here is a sad story to tell that has some reflection of VP Cheney's daytime nightmare, . . .

In our local are, a Metro officer was shot down and killed while he was servicing a domestic violence emergency call.

As our local news reported, an officer hasn't been killed within the department in nineteen years. So here naturally, the loss of the officer made a great headline story, and a great reason to expand the department's loss into a long time commercial. The town held fundraiser after fundraiser for the widow and her family.

As the widow collected a HIGH amount of cash, she refused to, (By the request of a radio D.J. who sponsored one of the events), give a public moment of gratitude to those who were giving her support. (Ha, nice gal).

The loss of the officer was posted day and evening on the local media channel, for a week. When the time finally arrived for the officer's funeral, public streets were closed for hours, traffic jams avoiding the extensive convoy, of police patroled vehicles and motorcycles, and the long line of people who followed the family herse.

Oh what a performance for the world to see!
Oh what a spectacle this all became to be!

The county wanted to show the world, . . . "We have compassion!"

Alright,if this being said is true, then what will the county officials offer, in regards to a Metro officer who just recently killed three family members, while placing another into the hospital under coma conditions? The surviving family member is a 16 year old female who is preganant with twins! Will she survive? Will the unborn survive?

The "incident" is under investigations. But in the interim, excuses, excuses, and more excuses are fed into the public, by the leading Metro commanders. As it has been told, the implicated officer has NOT yet given his statement. Days have passed on. Are we to believe, the implicated officer hasn't given his department heads reasoning to his defense for driving recklessly? Why hasn't there been any violations given out? Was there any tests of alcohol given?

We question, . . . Is this officer repeating the offense of VP Cheney? Are we now to understand and accept those who wear a badge also wear the symbol of immunity?

VP Cheney has shown himself before the world, as being a poor example of one who gives "respect" to another life, and to the written law of the land. Now, in the year of 2006, such a trend is repeating itself, in another part of the country. What is next people? VP HAS TO GO! And all others as well, who don't afford "respect and honor to life and the protected laws!"

If the VP and law enforcement aren't going to protect and serve "under" the color of law, then THE PEOPLE MUST!

THE PEOPLE CAN MAKE A FORMAL COMPLAINT AND HAVE THE INDIVIDUAL ARRESTED FOR QUESTIONING. THE PEOPLE MUST TAKE ACTION. IF NOT, THEN THE PEOPLE WILL BE UNFAIRLY TAKEN UNDER! JUST LIKE THE FAMILY WHO NOW SUFFERS ONE OF THE GREATEST LOSES TO MANKIND. FOUR MEMBERS OF THEIR FAMILY, PUFF, . . . WHERE ARE THEY NOW?

WE DEMAND FOR THIS FAMILY WHO ARE FROM THE STATE OF UTAH, TO BE GIVEN ALL DUE RESPECT AND HONOR! THIS HORRIFIC INCIDENT OCCURRED IN THE STATE OF NEVADA. WE DEMAND THAT THE LAW FOLLOWS THIS CASE BY THE BOOK! NO MORE CHILDISH EXCUSES AND DELAYS!

The spouse of an officer who has been killed in the line of duty, receives hundreds of thousands of dollars, from the state department. We question, . . . Where are the necessary funds found that will support this family's grave loss?

WHERE HAS AMERICA'S BADGE OF HONOR GONE TO?

Okay there is no proof that Cheney was drunk, but answer me this. What kind of Sheriff would be stopped from investigating a shooting. Try it at home and SWAT would be busting down the door. Either the Sheriff is incredibly incompetent or he is corrupt.

Maybe the delay in announcing the shooting and letting the cops interview the party was just poor judgement, but it stinks of coverup.

Where is this other woman, she is the Ambassador to Switzerland, she should be accessible.

There is absolutely no evidence of anything wrong. Good lord, there isn't any corroboration, just "Secret Service agents." How are we supposed to trust that? This entire article is based on conjecture and wild theories with no evidence to support anything. I would love to know which "administration sources" Thompson talked too. Cheney had a hunting accident, plain and simple and thats all it will ever be.

Hey, I dunno if you read the link or not Grace but I think this page is for commenting on the article Doug wrote.

the badge of dishonor goes to those who won't, or can't, name sources.

do you keep your work to un-substantiated rumors in an attempt to smear politicians or do you have any info on the Lochness creature, Area51 and BigFoot too? Im sure you could twist some truth in those stories to suite your needs as well.

Hey, I dunno if you read the link or not Grace but I think this page is for commenting on the article Doug wrote.

All of the bloodsucking reporters crawling all over this thing, and who breaks the story of the century? Some grizzled old fart on the internet. Who is ridiculously vague about his sources. The word bullshit is toweringly inadaquate to describe your cliams, sir.

TO THE ONE WHO POSTED HIM/HERSELF AS, . . . "LIBERALS ARE MORONS," . . .

LIBERAL MEANS TO BE "FREE HEARTED. ARE YOU MEANING TO TELL ALL THE PEOPLE OF THE WOLRD, BEING "FREE HEARTED" IS IN COMPARISON TO BEING A MORON?

DO YOU KNOW IS CONSIDERED BEING A MORON? THE ONE WHO MANIPULATES SOMEONE'S COMPUTER, AND SPIES ON PEOPLE'S ACTIVITIES, AND LISTENS IN ON PEOPLE'S PRIVATE PHONE CALLS!

Sound Familiar?

This guy is full of it. I find it interesting he writes in very GENERAL terms of this "report". Are you kidding me? If there was a report, it would be all OVER the liberally biased CNN. "According to those who have read the report...", blah, blah, blah. Look, if you want to write satire, then be my guest, but don't just make b.s. up like this. You don't even get an "A" for effort. This is a weak attempt.

LOL....I call BS on this Thomas! haha If this is true, be a man and show us this report! or HEY...even better, just get someone who has seen this report to verify it exist! I love you liberals, I really do! SO PLEASE Mr. Thomas don't stop writting or spewing your hate. It's folks like you, Mickeal Moore etc. that insure the republican party will keep control of the White House, Congress, and the Courts for ever and ever! PLEASE keep writting!!!! LOL thanks

hah. although i believe there's a possibility that the veep was drinking, you are obviously fishing. you have a vivid imagination - maybe your conspiracy theory actually carries some weight and somebody from the SS will come forward to prove you right.

To Doug, . . . Write a story that creates blisters, and you'll see all the poison come out from the wound!

Get it people?

What's the difference anyway - so what he was drunk - don't ya get it yet - this Administration is above the law - they can do whatever they damn well please.

Why is it, when anything such as this IE: space alliens, big foot and the second shooter. There is never any proof. I told my friend right when we saw it on the news here comes the liberal calvery. I am sure they could not stop passing out blankets to illegals, or let go of the "herb" fast enough to start spinning this story. I think I am going to report from reliable sources that Hilary is really a man in drag.....oh wait that has been proven.

The story has conflicts within it. In the beginning it cites a "Secret Service" report that Cheney was drunk, then at the end says the secret service took possession of the blood samples and told the doctor not to discuss the case. That makes no sense and leaves me to believe that there is no validity to the story.

There has been so much time and energy spent on this type of tom-foolery, committed by the present WH administration, that it has become a bore. There will be no direct consequences for them in whatever illegal endeavors they undertake. They have all clearly put themselves above any laws that our fellow countrymen are bound to abide by.

Please, use your breath wisely and stay the course with the important issues.

A written report from Secret Service agents guarding Vice President Dick Cheney when he shot Texas lawyer Harry Whittington on a hunting outing two weeks ago says Cheney was "clearly not inebriated" at the time of the shooting.

Agents observed several members of the hunting party, except the Vice President, consuming alcohol before and during the hunting expedition, the report notes, and Cheney exhibited "no signs" of impairment, including slurred speech nor erratic actions, the report said.
According to those who have read the report and talked with others present at the outing, Cheney was not drunk when he gunned down his friend and the day-and-a-half delay in allowing Texas law enforcement officials time to notify the family of Harry Whittington.......

for all of you that believe this crap, see how easy that was. No names, no proof and no truth.

Doug...you sound like one of those anti-christian, anti-american, socialist loving pigs on the Democratic Underground!

we are in big trouble! the country is in the hands of a bunch of drunken, lying, meglomainacs

Everyone is demanding for Doug to show reports like fire is calling for water. Where were all of you screamers for proof and evidence of resources, when the prez made, and continues to make "false" accusations about 911 and Iraq?

Da!

He said, she said. Speculation and hearsay at it's finest. Give me some facts to chew on. Better yet, create a platform and run with it! To hell with all this Administration bashing. That's all the left can do. No ideas and no vision will continue to place the left in the position they currently behold. . .the toilet. A very pathetic party anymore. . .sad.

Captain Kirk? :)

Why is it all these crazy people look like santa? Poor Dems waisting time on this stuff. I would spend more time trying to find a decent contender for the office. Or are you just going to re-tread Kerry, or even better Dean? Come to think of it that might be a good idea.

You are a braindead hippie. Conspiracy theoriest. OOOhhh, look there is black helicopter.

They ain't in the South, or amongst "real men" without Booze! Where I come from, which was settled by Okies, Arkies, etc., in S. Oregon, if you don't partake, it's an insult & you may be a priss & narc or not a man.

I'm not condoning it though.

There's concrete reasons why you should be scared to death of drunk people with guns. Lots of stories.

This is a fake "news story", if it were true it would have been all over the "news" by now as they are looking for any reason to bring down the very administration that is protecting them. I am sure some democrate nut job "foud" this story or got it from the ABC reporting system, aka make it up.

WHO CARES??? How many hunting accidents happen any given day? 30? 50? The only reason this is even news is because all the liberal-crazy hippies lost the Alito fili-buster and they want to take attention off of them being pathetic LOSERS!!! Hypocrites...how many people has Ted Kennedy killed during one of his drunken "accidents"?

I am sure he is a big hit at the star trek conventions

You are so INCREDIBLY FULL OF SHIT.

Doug, Since Cheney's shooting incident hit the news, I've been anticipating this morning's followup. In the many months I've read your columns - and RANTS - your facts haven't been challenged. You're cautious - using a minimum of 3 confirming sources before commiting your stories to the airwaves. Thanks also for your follow-up responses. A solid story and good writing. You provide a needed service to our country. I can't ask for more! elgee

elgee, do you really believe he has three legit sources? If so I have some ocean front property in Arizona to sell you. You guys are blindly believing lies just because it targets our government.

Give us one name of your inside sources. And by the way how do you have inside sources? I find it hard to believe, that if you had a chance to really nail Dick you would not take your shot. Imagine you would be held up in ranks with Commie Jane and Chapaquitic Ted. So release the hounds give us the names. Make yourself a hero. Lord knows your party needs one

tedbhone wrote "...If only Americans had the guts to remove this administration preferably by force but ANY MEANS [emphasis mine] would do.."
May I quote " whenever two or more people are gathered together in my namer in prayer I will grant their request." Jesus.
So you see the solution is quite simple,- all you need is the heart!

Cheney said he had one beer - that's the first lie. There was another lie - that he was 30 yards away from Whittington. The size of the shot pattern on Whittington proves that he and Cheney were much closer than that.

Why would Cheney lie about the distance? Because a shot fired at close range and at a man's head can only be intended one way: That shot was meant to kill. There's a serious crime here.

The two men drank and argued all afternoon. At the peak of his intoxication, Cheney lost his temper, raise his gun in drunken anger and fired.

Doug:

I have been reading you rants for five years now, and I try to never miss one. I just want to thank you for showing up these politicians/clowns, party non-withstanding, for the true idiots they are. It is good to know that someone has the brass cojones in this country to tell it like it is! Keep up your good work!

Well, of course. Who ever doubted that? What other possible explanation could there have been for the long delay other than that Dick needed to get his blood ETOH down?

Sheez!

Being a quail hunter and a native Texan I can testify that the moron writing this is just stirring it with what few "facts" he can. Of course they were all drunk......I'm 50, been hunting my whole life and never hunted with a drunk yet. I must not be hunting in the right places......ever. Take this non-story and try and make it a little more exciting. I'm sure you'll come up with something, since you obviously don't need "facts" in order to report it.

When this happened and heard of the delay till the next morning, my immediate thought was 'that sure would be nice if you were drunk and wanted to sleep it off'.

I want one person to answer me. Do you idiots really believe thig guy? I just want to hear from one of you just one. I have to see if you people are for real. I would love to see what goes through your minds and what color the sky is in your world. So please reply.

You sir (thompson) are an idiot.

This is old news, but I'm glad you're bringing it up again:
http://thinkprogress.org/2006/02/15/cheney-drinking/
First my credentials:I'm a Family Physician with 21 years of recovery as the son of an alcoholic mother, and an alcoholic addict myself. My father is a personal friend of Bush's and was mis-interviewed by Time, so will not speak to the press. I support Bush, but think liberal. I believe alcoholism is a disease, not a moral weakness.
Clearly, Cheney was drunk: experienced hunter shoots friend, admits to one beer, waits 24 hours to report accident -- gotta be! I await proof to the contrary, and there is none: a prompt blood alcohol would have easily proved him innocent, but instead he waited.
Interestingly, as I Googled last week on "Cheney DUI" and now on "George III alcohol" I do find this similarity: the US sought independence because of the policies of George's Prime Minister William Pitt, who was an alcoholic and died of a stroke while speaking to parliament in 1778:
http://www.britannia.com/gov/primes/prime5.html
Now we have another George whose policies are strongly influenced by his alcoholic VP. Alcoholism in any organization is devastating.

Again, I beg those of you who use shaming epithets to look at your own childhoods. Would you use such angry words against a man suffering from cancer, or against his friends? Or is it the unresolved pain so many of us have suffered as children of impaired parents, which then erupts violently and inappropriately at others.

Cheney needs intervention. I nominate Betty Ford, who is a President's wife and a Republican.

Hey MATT your little rant was almost as good as Mr. Thompson's. Now you can go back to your little nutty, liberal, cooky friends on the Democratic Underground and spew your crap. It must be really sad being a Dem these days! LOL I love ya'll though! LOL

b.s.

I was a dem, and I stress was. Its morons like this that make the party look so bad. If you spent more time trying to make the party a better party maybe you would not have to resort to this. I got so sick and tired of all the look what they are doing democrats. Here is an idea, why not promote the good things the dems do? I know it is hard to find but I am sure there is something. Your party has no direction, you bring in people like Howard Dean who I think is crazy. I was so embarrased I had to change. This party used to be about important things. Now it is just a mockery of monday morning quarterbacks. Sad very, very sad.

Did anyone notice that in his affidavit Whittington was adamant that :'there was NO alcohol served at anytime, we did everything by the book, including all the appropriate safety gear'?

and the Kenedy County Sheriff's Office found 'no alcohol involved'.

and the woman who runs the ranch said 'no alcohol whatsoever....nada...zero....zip'.

Then Cheney fesses up to 'a beer at lunch'.

Seems they need to get their stories straight.

Ha, even the Sheeple can figure this one out. Probably was like something out of the movie Deliverance: Cheney shot the lawyer cause he wouldn't "squeal like a pig". Texans consume more beer on a yearly basis than gasoline but we can all rest assured that this hunting party in Texas was an exception. LOL! There is no end to the fun when your two political parties are choices between Republicans(drunks and druggies) and Democrats(sex perverts). Pretty much captures the American bicameral state of mind. I'll drink to that!

I find it very interesting that so many postings on this blog keep demanding proof that Cheney was intoxicated on his hunting trip. Where were you guys when the administration was talking about "the mushroom cloud" that was sure to devestate America because Iraq has weapons of mass destruction?

I personally don't care if ol Dick was drunk or not, but what does bother me is the amount of hate that is spewed on this site by some very ANGRY people. Dems are always accussed of being haters but I think to the contrary.

...go ahead an unleash your hate speech on me now! I know you're going to!

So this is what democrats do all day? I knew that working was not one of them and now I have found out what they do. Me being retired and living off my investments gives me the chance to live like a democrats. The only diffrence is that I live off my investments not the tax payer nickle. I love this site though, it really gives you an idea of how far they will go to bring down a president they could not beat. Keep up the good work though, I would like to see the republicans in office for another 4 years. And judging by the people that agree with this weirdo I see we are will on our way.

By refusing to comment of Wittington's blood alcohol level, the doctor who treated Whittington in effect admitted that the patient was intoxicated. Had Wittington been sober, then the doctor could have stated such. Maybe that is why doctors practice medicine. They can never get it quite right. Then there are those doctors like Billy Frist who practice politics. I can smell the barnyard from here.

By refusing to comment of Whittington's blood alcohol level, the doctor who treated Whittington in effect admitted that the patient was intoxicated. Had Whittington been sober, then the doctor could have stated such. Maybe that is why doctors practice medicine. They can never get it quite right. Then there are those doctors like Billy Frist who practice politics. I can smell the barnyard from here and I'm upwind.

Janet we wont hate on you, it is not polite to kick someone while they are down. And I will agree that the WMDs may not of been handled as well as it could have been. But it has been on the news and even reported by Clinton they had them. There is a big diffrence from several written and visual accounts of WMDs over the past 15 years to having this crack pot saying he has inside sources that Dick was drunk. But it does not suprise me much you have to play the cards you are dealt I guess.

GOOD GOOD.TURN ON EACHOTHER LEARN TO HATE EACHOTHER THE PLAN IS WORKING.THE GIANT OF IMPURITY LOOKS OUT OVER ITS CREATION AND IS HAPPY YOU ARE FULLFILLING YOUR DESTINY.TURN ON EACHOTHER AND FUEL THE FIRE OF DESTRUCTION.THE GIANT THAT SLEEPS WHILST IT BED BURNS SLEEPS THE SLEEP OF IGNORANCE.WIPEING ITS CHIN IT LAUGHS "BURN BABY BURN"

What a shame Whittington wasn't able to get up and start shooting back. If the SS agents reports are correct, don't they have a responsibility to "go public" with that information? Surely their loyalties should be to the people of the USA, not to a drunk in charge of lethal weapons?

Crimes Cheney & Co can be charged with for shooting gunman. Dick faces stiff jail penalty as 3rd-Strike alcohol offender. Cheney's 2 DUI convictions stay on his record FOREVER. Will
mastermind of 9/11 Terrorist Attacks escape justice? All witnesses who refuse to voluntaeer testimony can be arrested as accessories to Dick's crimes. Probable cause exists to arrest Cheney in any state or federal jurisdiction: (1) by grand jury indictment and warrant for arrest;
(2) by warrantless arrest by law enforcement officer; (3) by citizen's arrest by private person, private security guard, or law
enforcement officer outside of jurisdiction of employment.

Texas Statutes:
§ 22.01. ASSAULT
§ 36.03. COERCION OF PUBLIC SERVANT
§ 36.04. IMPROPER INFLUENCE
§ 36.05. TAMPERING WITH WITNESS
§ 36.06. OBSTRUCTION
§ 37.08. FALSE REPORT TO PEACE OFFICER
§ 37.09. TAMPERING WITH EVIDENCE
§ 37.10. TAMPERING WITH GOVERNMENTAL RECORD
§ 38.03. RESISTING ARREST OR SEARCH
§ 38.04. EVADING ARREST OR DETENTION
§ 38.05. HINDERING APPREHENSION OR PROSECUTION
§ 38.15. INTERFERENCE WITH PUBLIC DUTIES
§ 38.171. FAILURE TO REPORT FELONY
§ 38.18. USE OF ACCIDENT REPORT FOR PECUNIARY GAIN
§ 46.02. UNLAWFUL CARRYING WEAPONS
§ 49.02. PUBLIC INTOXICATION
§ 49.031. POSSESSION OF ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE IN MOTOR VEHICLE
§ 49.07. INTOXICATION ASSAULT
§ 12.43. PENALTIES FOR HABITUAL OFFENDERS
§ 12.46. USE OF PRIOR CONVICTIONS

Good story.

Of course, I had my brain amputated last year so I think ALL your stories are factual and wholly objective.

There's the main stream media. The new media. The pajamas media.

Then, there is the "I'm a freaking, lying whacko that really has lost the ability to actually know when I'm lying - media"

You're slightly under that last group. Good luck with your insane bitter campaign....

What a crock of unsubstantiated BS. How about a name or two to go with these quotes? Source anybody?

I can't for the life of me understand why anyone thinks that the vice president shooting someone ISN'T a major story. Any thoughts on why so many people think that a the shooting is a minor issue that has been blown out of proportion?

How come all these Bush Supporters, are not in Iraq, fighting bush's precious, christian inspired , Noble, War.....that would shut'm up!

I've got no comment, I'm just here trying to get hits for my website.

Cheney's Got A Gun - Music video to the tune of "Janie's Got a Gun" by Aerosmith.
bobrivers.com/audiovault/downloads/downloads.asp
bobrivers.com/audiovault/downloads/cheneyvid.asp

Dick Cheney's 2 DUI CONVICTIONS court files:
thesmokinggun.com/archive/cheney_doc.html

Cheney: "I had a beer at lunch."

VIDEO DOWNLOAD: CHENEY CONFESSING TO ALCOHOL BEFORE AND AFTER SHOOTING!
movies.crooksandliars.com/Brit-Hume-Cheney-SHooting.wmv
radio.indymedia.org/news/2006/02/8559.php

TEXT TRANSCRIPT OF CHENEY'S VIDEO CONFESSION TO BEING DRUNK
tv.groups.yahoo.com/group/piratenewsrss/message/131

Police Report Showing Drawing of Victim's Gunshot Injuries:
infowars.com/images2/us/0213061cheney1_tb.jpg

Police Report of Cheney Shooting with Interviews:
thesmokinggun.com/archive/0216061cheney1.html

"There's a report out tonight that 24-years ago I was apprehended in Kennebunkport, Maine, for a DUI. That's an accurate story. I'm not proud of that. I oftentimes said that years ago I made some mistakes. I occasionally drank too much and I did on that night. I was pulled over. I admitted to the policeman that I had been drinking. I paid a fine. And I regret that it happened. But it did. I've learned my lesson."
—Governor George Bush Jr., rebroadcast on CNN Larry King Live, November 2, 2000
transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0011/02/lkl.00.html

Kennbunkport Maine Police Report of Bush Arrest Record:
thesmokinggun.com/archive/bushdui1.html

A MOST DANGEROUS GAME WITH ELMER CHENEY

"Cheney was half lying across the plain military issue style desk in an apparent drug stupor as Bush talked. Still wearing his hunting coat and hat, Cheney aimed his rifle at me from the desk and threatened, 'Or a-hunting we will go.' Bush finished Cheney's threatby singing, 'We'll catch a fox and put her in a box and lower her in
a hole.' Bush looked at Cheney and burst out laughing. The sight of him dressed in his hunting clothes with a huge bore double-barreled
shotgun to his shoulder inspired Bush to tell him he 'looked like Elmer Fudd.' Cheney, imitating the cartoon character, said, 'Where is that waskily wabbit?'"
-Cathy O'Brien, TRANCE Formation of America
trance-formation.com

VIDEO DOWNLOAD OF INTERVIEWS WITH CATHY O'BRIEN AND MARK PHILLIPS BY
GNN TV:
gnn.tv/videos/3/The_Most_Dangerous_Game
archive.org/details/tmdg_trailer
archive.org/details/tmdg_broll
piratenews.org/video-archive.html

"You know what Miami Vice is. Undercover drug agents taking control of the drug industry. A Vice President is just that - an undercover
drug agent taking control of the drug industry - for the President."
-Dick Cheney, TRANCE Formation of America

Ronald and Nancy Reagan on drugs:
bobrivers.com/audiovault/downloads/files/rrn.wav

Tami great work. They only problem with that is you have to have proof. And I would not hold your breath on getting that. It is a great effort the one key thing you are lacking is proof of his guilt greater than that of him being innocent. The old innocent till proven guilty thing can be such a burden sometimes. Having a beer does not make one intoxicated. And with the liberal court system we have today you would not be able to get a conviction even if you had it on tape. Of course he is a rich, white, republican man!!!! What was I thinking he will get the death penalty for sure. Strike my above statement, you will only walk on such charges if you are a poor minority and you actually killed someone. Bravo the liberals strike another blow to the MAN!!!!!

Support the War!..DRAFT Rebublicans and Bush supporters.....and all of their kids.

Wow, who are you people that believe this crap. Just because somebody writes it doesn't mean its true. What a bunch of morons!!! Doug has no proof to any of his stories, you might as well read the national inquirer. Besides, whats the big deal?, its not like when Clinton fired off a round in the Oval Office, LOL.

Well Mr. Bushblows, if all of us left to fight in the war who would be here to work? And if we were not working who would pay for all those assistance programs you need to live off of? I hope this answers your question. Get a job, cut your hair and put down the weed.

Ain't this the same Secret Service that failed to immediately escort Bush out of the Florida school on 9/11/2001, while America was under attack? And the same Secret Service that let Ronald Reagan get shot by a family friend of Sir George Bush Sr Knight of the British Empire? The same Secret Service that got drunk the night before JFK Sr was assassinated while driving in front of the Dallas police station at 5mph? The same SS that refuses to arrest Bushes and Cheney for perping the 9/11 terrorist massacres, despite probable cause based on sworn testimony by the 9/11 survivors, in their lawsuits against the Bush Gang? Oh yeah, THAT Secret Service.

The Vice-President's actions related to frenzy building re Saddam Hussein and getting us into the Iraq mess are indeed malodorous. So he was a "skunk" to begin with. He, seemingly to ostentatiously, sneers at the existence of what was the rule of law which formerly governed our thinking in the development and execution of policy.

It was clear from the beginning of the exposition of the Texas episode, that manipulation of the real facts behind the case was operative.

He and the main man need toi be impeached for lhying to the American People.

I have a pic on my blog based on Doug's article. Hand's down Dead-eye Dick was sauced.

I have a great idea how the Democrats can fix this whole mess. WIN AN ELECTION!!!!! But of course they wont debate that issure I think it is still a sore spot. I guess I would feel the same way if I had to look at Kerry and think to myself. That is the best we had to offer. Then I would go outside and hug a tree. Till I had a good cry then go back inside and tie-dye my couch.

What does it take to get this news out to the general public?

What a crock of poop your article is.

unsubstantiated drivel. doug, like so many other over-eating do(and know)-nothings, writes just to make noise and cause discontent so he will not be alone.

Do you idiots really go for this sort of thing??

To Tami Lee, . . . YOU HAVE DONE AMERICA A SERVICE OF JUSTICE. BE SURE VP AND CO. DOESN'T COME AND VISIT BECAUSE YOU EXPOSED "THE TRUTH!" (LOL)

Sooner rather than later, Americans need to acknowledge the fact, . . . the ONLY one stopping Justice from becoming a steady reality in America, is by the lack of action taken by its citizenry. NOT BY THE PROPULSIVE CRIMINAL BEHAVIOR OF THE GOVERNMENT!

I say after we burn Cheney we go get Ted!!! Who is with me? I mean he ACTUALLY KILLED someone!! I say we get him. Oh.....he is on our team never mind. You guys need to remind me that we are demorcrats. I am usally trying to make America better and I tend to neglect our party stance "just get Bush". And to that idot BUSHBLOWS I served this country and its idiots like you that need to serve to see what its like. I am a democrat and I hate you whiners that have nothing better to do that bitch and moan. I was there, I saw what went on I have first hand accounts. And my friend it is not about oil. But if thats what your leaders tell you then I guess drink the Kool-Aide.

No kidding, drunk????

Who would have guessed, quail, tall guy, they all look the same, especially when theres three of them and they're all moving.

I like how none of the sources are named. It's all very vague and all very much a bunch of crap. I can't believe this made it to Fark.

Please, please try and get this out to as many people as possible. At least this is an item of news regarding what actually happened there in
lil o'le Texas, in the Armstrong's private fifedom. Thank You so much for bringing "some" light into this "dark gang" of "archthieves".

So, any of you neocon sheeple find those WMD's, yet?

Morons.

You can always tell when a neocon fan is in the house. They immediately try to frame the conversation, and it gets stupider by the second.

OH, THIS JUST CAN'T BE TRUE!

Here's another example of why all these goddam, dirty, filthy, commie, hippie queers who write liberal lies in the media should be rounded up and placed in Gitmo until they can learn to write what they're told!

Do all you guys play Dungeons and Dragons together as well? Of just try to get convicted murders of death row? ORRRRRRRRRR are you the ones that want me to pay for a woman's 18 children with my tax money. I am just trying to figure out what faction of the morons I am dealing with. Please let me know. Thanks and keep up the good work. If you are what the demorcrats have to offer then get ready for a republican for another 4 years.

If Harry Whittington had on a Wolf Shirt at the time of the shooting he would have been too busy getting pussy to have been in the line of fire. Too bad...

Looks like Cheney could use a 12 step meeting...Drinking can be deadly, especially for your hunting buddies, eh Dick?

It seems to me that if Doug Thompson has access to "those who have read the report" and "a number of administration officials who are privy to inside information," and "one White House aide," then it would not be too difficult to actually obtain the documents themselves and publish them for all to see.

Cheney's record of lying is well-documented, so I wouldn't put it past him to lie about this as well. The old "I-only-had-one-beer" story? Yeah, right.

Nevertheless, I urge Mr. Thompson to press for these documents and make them public. Otherwise, this will go down as another unconfirmed, unsubstantiated rumor about Bush administration criminality (which would be in addition to the confirmed and substantiated instances of criminality).

Ok, I want an answer from someone in this forum. I understand the man was shot and it was terrible. But he does not want to press charges. The police dont want to press charges. If they are fine with it, who are you to decide otherwise? It was an accident, they happen every day. But I am sure none of you have done anything wrong of course, dont get me wrong. All I am asking is what is it you want done? And I would like a reply from one of the smarter people in the forum. I dont want to hear from the lets grow weed and send all republicans to Irag guy.

"Dick" Cheney: "I had a beer at lunch. I fired, and there's Harry falling. He was laying there on his back, obviously bleeding. You could see where the shot had struck him. He didn't respond. I'm the guy who pulled the trigger and shot my friend."
Transcript of Cheney's felony confession:
cnn.com/2006/POLITICS/02/15/cheney.transcript/

Ballistics Test Proves Cheney Gang Lied About Distance to Whittington:
infowars.com/articles/us/cheney_shooting_scientific_proof.htm

"By tomorrow it will be 'Dick Cheney blew his head off at the dinner table'. Makes you think Cheney shot this guy on purpose."
-Bill Maher, MSNBC Hardball re Drunk Dick
VIDEO:
radio.indymedia.org/news/2006/02/8559.php

MSNBC VIDEO: Cheney Blows Lawyer's Head Clean Off
radio.indymedia.org/news/2006/02/8519.php

"Dick Cheney shot a man just to watch him die. I don't know what kind of medication Cheney is on, but I think it's a LOT. Why did Cheney not go visit his 'friend' in the hospital (instead of have a martini at the ranch)? Have you shot anyone accidentally, or on purpose? Either you don't go to the hospital because you were drunk, or because you're a jerk."
-Al Franken, MSNBC Scarborough (Scarborough was a Republican congressman who retired after his young female intern was found murdered in his Florida office)
crooksandliars.com/2006/02/16.html

MSNBC VIDEO - Dick Morris re Cheney: Alcohol involved?
crooksandliars.com/2006/02/16.html

VIDEO: David Letterman on drunk Cheney and his gun
crooksandliars.com/2006/02/16.html

"I could stuff you and mount you like a jackalope and call you a two legged dear. Or I could stuff you with this (he unzipped his pants to reveal his oversized penis) right down your throat, and then mount you. Which do you prefer? If you don't mind me, I will kill you. I could kill you -- Kill you -- with my bare hands. You're not the first and you won't be the last. I'll kill you any time I goddamn well please."
-"Dick" Cheney, Trance Formation in America, "A Most Dangerous Game"
www.Trance-Formation.com

Probable cause exists for ANYONE to arrest Cheney on sight, for numerous crimes. Period.

TRANCE-Formation!??!?!?? I just looked at this site. No wonder you are idiots the only that transfering is your money into her pocket. I cant belive you morons fall for this. But I guess if the shoe fits wear it. I feel really bad for you. The trance that woman was in was brought on by LSD or something.

Trance you are either a flame war instigator or the most ignorant person I have ever run across. Either way its hilarious.

Q: How do you starve a Democrat?
A: Put his welfare check underneath his work boots! : )

Trance, this is why your party remains and will remain a joke. You attract fools like moths to a light. Entertaining though, I think I saw a movie about it once.

TEXAN, that is the only true thing I have seen on this message board yet.

A challenge to all the Freepers* who are trying to "freep" this column.

Care to point to any instance where someone involved in an accidental shooting was able to tell the cops to go away, that they would talk to them tomorrow? ONE INSTANCE. Let's see a reference to a police report, a news article.

SOP is to interview the witnesses and participants as soon as possible after any accident, an auto accident, accidental shooting, or industrial accident if an ambulance is called. Let's see ONE reference to another accidental shooting where the cops just non chalantly walked away and didn't insist right then and there on an in your face interview. Ask any cop you know, this is SOP. No exceptions.

You don't think this is suspicious? Vince foster case was suspicious, yes? Why not this one?

Denial is not very patriotic. If one of "your boys" messes up, then just fess up. Gives ya a lot more cred in the long run.

*I'm one of the MANY folks who left Freeps after we saw it hijacked by the bushistas. We called righteous BS on all clintons crap,because it was needed and true, but then it got to be too much to see the outright denial and goose stepping that went on after that marginal moron, the grinning liar and his pack of haliburton and AIPAC thieves got in in 2000.

You go back in the archives you'll see quite a few old timey true conservatives left Freeps over rimjobs sell out to the bushista crime cartel and the Israel first/end times/armageddon total nutcase crowd. We are for nation, not for some arbitrary political party or transnational corporation.

When bubbas "gun" went off in the oval office,striking Monicas throat,you libnuts were not ranting & tearing your clothes off in a rabid rage.Democraps are the worst kind of hypocrites in this world.I didnt leave the Democratic party,THEY left me in the 60,s when pappybird Johnson started his great society.I consider my self lucky to have survived that idiots war in Vietnam.Tell the DNC to call me if they EVER get a viable,plausible candidate for the presidency.

If this was any one else below the law they would been in jail for a long time..So Cheney is above the law--so is Bush...SO what else is new...only money talks....

EX_FREEPER ------I have been peppered many times while hunting, I did not call the police. If you know anything about hunting it happens all the time. Now granted some cases are worse than other. I am not going to get into a debate over a hunting accident with you. What you are doing is trying your hardest to bring down the president. You could not do it by election and you wont be able to in the next either. So what you do is sit around and steam about it and try to find anything to cause damage. And if you think there is not lieing in politics you are a fool. I seem to remember a snake oil salesman from Arkansas that did a really good job doing that not long ago. The diffrence between you and myself is, I know people lie and can live with it. You on the other hand believe just as long as the lieing is done by your guy its ok.

M BROWN - you forgot to add that if you are a white man only. Remember poor ethnic people get to walk. You tree huggers created the libral court system so now you have to live with it.

Love the site, and wish this story could be proven to be true.I really wish you guys would post links to the references you quote. It would definitely add a lot of credibilty to your assertions.

Dick Cheney already offered me a job in 1992, when he was secretary of war at Pentagon. I turned down his bribe, er, job offer and retired from USAF, after filing criminal charges against my entire chain of command. Don't ya wonder why a 4-star general leading Desert Storm was fired in the middle of Gulf War #1? Why would Cheney fire the chief of staff of the Air Force, for merely talking to the media about how many lives he was saving in the US Army? I'm just angry I had 4 heart attacks within 12 months of retiring, at age 32, thanks to Gulf War Sabotaged Vaccine Syndrome. The contagious "vaccines" included a patented bioweaponized mycobacterium that's gene-spliced with the bioweaponized HIV virus, and was perfected in US prisons before the Gulf War. The antibiotic cure is banned by treasonous US Gangsta Govt, that helped genocide 50,000 US Gulf War troops and disabled 500,000 US troops. I have to buy my antibiotics from outside USA, and hope the Jewish Israeli citizen born in commie Czechoslovakia running Bush's US Homeland Security, Michael Chertoff, doesn't steal my medicine. To overthrow USA, the enemy must first destroy the US military, which is what "experimental vaccines" and "Depleted" Uranium (which is deadly radioactive for 45-billion years) is all about. Why aren't US troops on the border of Mexico, stopping invasion by 100-million illegal alien terrorists? Why aren't we nuking Mexico City? Why aren't we nuking the banksters in London? Why aren't we nuking Israel for running massive terrorist operations in USA? Why aren't we arresting the Bush Gang for high crimes and misdemeanors? After all, they're the drug kingpins of USA, importing all the cocaine and heroin. BTW, I don't appreciate the White Houses and Congress stealing my military pension, as perped against 95% of all disabled retired veterans. Iraq and Afghanistan and Iran did nothing to USA except want to sell us cheap oil, while Bush exports 70% of Alaskan oil to Communist China and Mexico. Every US slave, er, soldier is following illegal orders by killing innocent people in the Middle East. Bush Jr was never elected president, and every order he signs is an illegal order. Supporting Bush Jr is like watching your house burn down, and choosing to roast marshmallows instead of putting out the fire. Refusing to arrest a drunken Cheney for aggrevated assault with a firearm is insane suicide for this nation. It doesn't matter what party you are, GOP, Demo, Libertarian, Green, Constitutional or nonvoter. We are all Americans. But we won't have an America for long if we allow the Bush Crime Family to run amok.

This story says a written report says Cheney was "clearly innebriated". If someone has proof of this written report or it is not classified, then where is it in it's full content?
It says agents observed several members of the hunting party consuming alcohol including Cheney and that he exhibited "visible signs" of impairment. The only part of this in quotations is "visible signs". Who were those agents? Why are we just getting this vague third hand information? Furthermore, even if a policeman hauls someone in for drunkeness, he can not be convicted for appearing to be innebriated.
This story also says, according to those who have read the report (who are they) and talked with others (who are others) present at the outing, Cheney was drunk when he gunned down his friend. Gunned down!?! Come on! If that is not sensationalism. I don't know what is! Did he pull a John Wayne, or a Dirty Harry when he came out with guns a blazin' when he "gunned down" his FRIEND? Anyone with half a brain can see the sensationalism and the dancing around half truths to make it more than what it is.
Then the story states "Texas law enforcement officials on the ranch where the shooting occurred gave all members of the hunting party time to sober up." It just arbitrarily makes this statement without any basis or indication of who verified or stated this.
It further states "We talked with a number of administration officials who are privy to inside information on the Vice President's shooting "accident" and all admit Secret Service agents and others saw Cheney consume far more than the "one beer' he claimed he drank at lunch earlier that day." How convenient that they are privy to yet more unnamed sources of hear say.
Then there's my favorite paragraph. It says, "This was a South Texas hunt," says one White House aide. "Of course there was drinking. There's always drinking. Lots of it." I think most courts of law would call this conjecture and misleading. Again, i noticed it says one White House Aid said this. Which one?
Bla bla bla! Even if he had a buzz and grazed a friend while hunting who may also have had a buzz, and has forgiven him, how does this compare with a leacherous man who abuses his power of authority in the highest office to take advantage of an intern in the most prestigious office in the free world? This we know for a fact was done knowingly and the perpetrator didn't even come clean until after he had perjured himself.
Spare me the hype!

Wow Tami- I think you need to write a book like that other crazy women from the trans formation site. I am just guessing that a sexual harrasment case is just floating in there somewhere. Look, I am sure you have all this inside under the table info. I want fact, I want papers I want documents signed by these people. I am sorry for you sickness as I am retired Air Force as well and have had all the shots and feel just fine. So untill you have facts, you will make more money reporting on space alliens, or the moon landing was a farce. No proof means it did not happen.

AJ, you can't think I really believe all that do you? I just put it up to make people chuckle and grin broadly.

Look at the name of the site. That oughta clue you in. Just one more in a long line of left wing idiots looking for anything they can find to discredit anything they can to do with the Bush Administration.

B. Franklin said it best:
"In free governments, the rulers are the servants, and the people their superiors and sovereigns. For the former, therefore, to return among the latter is not to degrade but to promote them" (Ben Franklin)

Just a few questions, was the criminal charges you filed in any way of the sexual nature. What was your rank. And if you know so much about these things then you must have kept documents correct? Or atleast know enough to be able to showa paper trail. If you say you retired at 13 years I am guessing you made major on the high side. What was your AFSC? All I am saying is some sort of proof and more on your back ground in the serivice would be nice.

AJ, I already wrote a book which includes all the signed documents from the Pentagon and dick cheney and Al Gore and many more. Obviously, you have proven yourself a pathological liar, because you have no proof you reitred from USAF. You never wrote a footnoted news article about it, nor did you write a book about it. You have no witness statements to prove it. So you are fool of shit with no balls. Just another pussy RepubliCON CRIMINAL TRAITOR.

Previous post refers to the fact every body seems worship at the feet of Whatever person has power. Instead of thinking for oneself it is easier to spout a party line that can be memorized thereby requiring no thought (WORK). This used to be the GREATEST NATION on the planet because of the individualism of its people, you robots put the lie to that.

Someone with Cheneys heart problems isn't about to get drunk on a regular basis..get a new face for your dart board...maybe that nutjob in IRAN!!!

Someone with Cheneys heart problems isn't about to get drunk on a regular basis..get a new face for your dart board...maybe that nutjob in IRAN!!!

TAMI LEE -Hit a nerve have I? What is the name of the book? I would love to read it? And again you have answered not one question I asked. And as usual the Dems respond with foul mouthed responses whenever question. And I retired from Spangdahlem AFB, GE in 2002. And if you only stayed in for 13 remember to put the (Med) infront of the retired. Post the name of your book and I will order it right now, I am very curious.

Wow, well I guess if you interview 10000 people and 9999 all say the same thing, but 1 guy wants 15 min of fame thats the one the press will listen to.

damn liberial media.

Another cover up and it doesn't surprise me. The most distressing thing is that this is how this country has been run for the past four plus years, noting but deceit, devestation, despair, and thugs. This administration is the most destructive and evil administration perhaps in this country's history. I pray Bush and Cheney would be impeached. Sneaks, cheats and liars!

First things first.
More will be revealed.
One is to many and a thousand is never enough.

Folks, let's please comment on the issues here and leave the name calling to the partisan bulletin boards. They like that sort of thing. We don't.

FYI, we just updated the story with some new information, including a report that one agent has been placed on administrative leave and another has requested reassignment. The written report is history, as I suspected it would be.

As for those who are demanding names, I will repeat what we have told others in the past. We don't burn our sources. The Bush administration has a long and documented record of retribution against those who dare speak out and I'm not about to send my friends and contacts into the lion's den.

We stand by our story.

WHERE CAN I SIGN UP FOR THE REPUKE "GESTAPO" ??

Tami- Still waiting on a title or atleast anything that has been published by anyone other than yourself.

lots of people in the joint wish this had been the sherrif that had investigated the crimes they did not have the coin prove themselves innocent of. course he's probably not the sherrif any more,he's probably Dick's shotgun caddy by now.

ATTN MORON AJ: There is something called a "weblink". It is a new invention that lets a surfer click a mouse button and travel to another website. Do you know what a mouse is? DUH! Try it, you might like it. Unless you're currently wearing a straight jacket, of course. Since you are obviously too stupid to do that, I'll spoon feed you the title: "STORMBRINGERS - IF YOU WANT TO PLAY WITH THE BIG BOYS, YOU HAVE TO KNOW HOW TO PLAY THE GAME." Since your IQ is obviously impaired, from the sabotaged vaccines and flouridated/Prozacated water, CLICK THE LINK BESIDE MY NAME.

I know all about what the SS agents will be going through. Since they're probably pussies, they'll just bend over and take it, and maybe get drunk and cry in their beer. If they had balls they would simply arrest Cheney and arrest every crooked cop who obstructed justice, including their crooked commanders. THAT'S WHAT COPS ARE PAID TO DO. Grown men were crying about the fraud, waste & abuse and a dozen other crimes going on, perped by our criminal commanding officers, and I led a successful mutiny by a dozen soldiers, as published by the Pentagon's TIG Brief Magazine. Govt employees and citizens must learn the think outside the idiotbox, and start fixing our broken nation.

BTW AJ, my husband loaded nukes in England on F-111s, and those nukes were targeted at WEST Germany... Say thank you to Bush Sr and his Eurotrash cousin, the German Queen of England.

So what if Cheney and Bush are gangsters? The only thing gangsters fear is arrest, not impeachment, not civil lawsuits. PUT THE BUSH GANG IN JAIL. NOW!

QUESTION: HOW DO YOU STARVE A REPUBLICAN?
ANSWER: DON'T (BREAST) FEED 'EM! (LOL)

And where can this "written report from Secret Service agents guarding Vice President Dick Cheney when he shot Texas lawyer Harry Whittington on a hunting outing two weeks ago" be found?

Cheney being drunk is not a suprise, nor is it a suprise that he lied about how it all happened. he lied about the distance, which has been proven scientifically, (goto infowars.com for that article) they lied about 9/11, they lied about katrina, they lie about everything. im 100% convinced that neocons have lost their minds. i USED to be a republican,not a neo con a republican, but after the hypocritical stance this administration takes on every subject, i find myself without a party. im actually ashamed to have ever called myself a republican. Dems are not much better, a little better, but not much. Republicans are brainwashed. If jesus were amoung us today he would plain be sickened by politicians, especially bush and his sorry excuss of a christian. I ask God to forgive me for voting for republicans.
we torture people, we kill inoccent civilians, and before you neocons start your propaganda about how binladin and iraq were involved in 911, and the whole WMD lie i think you need to seriously start thinking about what is really important, money or freedom. Neocons seem to think that its better to have a bunch of money and act like a facist government, than it is to be free and be honest and moral. you might not see it now, but our freedoms are being stripped away. bush leaves borders wide open, takes away our rights, and is trying to give ports to terror supporters. and the neo cons think we are safer. im sure many of you will agree when i say i will not be suprised when we get hit again and again and again. we have now made matters worse, we have now given birth to new generations of middle eastern "terror suspects" who now hate us even more than before. thanks PNAC
whats really funny is how neocons repeat word for word the propaganda that hannity, oreilly and druggy limbaugh try to brainwash everybody with. if they told you the sun rose in the western sky and that the moon was really a cocaine pie, the neo cons would believe it.
face it folks ther neocons dont see the forest thru the trees, nor do they look at the facts. they only take what facts fit their immoral compass. example....it is ok to lie about 911, WMD's, wiretapping, shooting people, katrina, torture, service records, climate change, voting irregularities.... but its not ok to lie about getting a blow job by an intern. the only good thing about the bush admin, is that they have ensured us that there will not be a republican sitting in the oval office for a long, long time. its too bad that it takes a bunch of kids dieing for oil, alot of our rights as citizens to be thrown out, and 3000 people on 911 to die in order to wake the country up to the dishonest, no moral party that the neo cons are. take it from a former republican there are vast numbers of us who do not like the path that the current administration has taken. they have hijacted the republican party. And i promise to you that there are alot fo us who will not vote for another neocon ever. i will vote for a republican again, but not a crony neo con. never!

Now we know why he needed time to lower his blood/alcohol level before being interviewed. And who were the two women (not the wives of the shooter or the victim) at the Mustang Ranch with them on the day of the party/shooting?

If there was a delay of one day and a half in treating the injury, then the medical staff is subject to malpractise claims, and could easily lose their licences or certifications. That's what would happen under ordinary conditions. There is a ripple factor here as well. For those of us who are instructors, we know that we can be called into court to testify on how we trained the defendants. If I were the instructor that certified them, I'd be busy with a lawyer myself, looking to make sure I had good defenses. Any destruction of records in this case also puts the instructor/s in legal jeopardy. Under medical law, if you are aware of a crime being committed, you have to report it. If the medical staff fails to file reports, that's another violation. And besides a legal violation, it's a moral one.

TAMI-LEE- Enlisted....Enlisted??? You are kidding me right? You make it seem like you were some high ranking officer? Another enlisted person thinking they know something they dont. And by judging from you use of the language I am thinking a weapons troop as well. I am not paying $100.00 for something you published yourserlf with the help of you "load toad" husband. Nice try though. A staff you have to be kidding me and in the Guard as well?? Let me get my boots back on it is getting deep now. Now I know for sure you are nuts, you did marry a weapons troop. Ok I give you win. I am not getting into an battle of wits with former enlisted person, its just not fair. I should of know from the get go, judging by the profanity.

TAMI-LEE- Enlisted....Enlisted??? You are kidding me right? You make it seem like you were some high ranking officer? Another enlisted person thinking they know something they dont. And by judging from you use of the language I am thinking a weapons troop as well. I am not paying $100.00 for something you published yourserlf with the help of you "load toad" husband. Nice try though. A staff you have to be kidding me and in the Guard as well?? Let me get my boots back on it is getting deep now. Now I know for sure you are nuts, you did marry a weapons troop. Ok I give you win. I am not getting into an battle of wits with former enlisted person, its just not fair. I should of know from the get go, judging by the profanity.

Thank you for the update and clarification. As I said before, this makes more sense than the double talk that was passed to the media about the delay. At some point common sense has to take hold in all of this, and this explanation makes more sense than some b.s. about "taking care of his friend".

For those who do not believe the part about the sheriff being barred from the ranch and taking the word of the Armstrongs'... well, this IS Texas that we are talking about.

Free Tip for disgruntled SS agents. MAKE PHOTOCOPIES OF EVERYTHING YOU CAN GET YOUR HANDS ON! Then DON'T hide them, send them out to DOZENS of law enforcement agencies, congressmen, news reporters. Always keep copies for yourself - and watch your back with high security, and take precautions for self defense. Always sign your own affidavit of the facts, and get it notarized, and include it with any photocopied reports you mail out. AND FILE CRIMINAL CHARGES AGAINST EVERY COMMANDER WHO GETS IN YOUR WAY. That's what I did, and it worked. Not perfectly, but it did play a role in Bush Sr's (and Cheney's) defeat in the 1992 selection, due to Iran-Contra, after I reported on theft of US/NATO weapons stockpiles, which it was later revealed were given to Iran and iraq in order to kill more US troops. And no, I'm not a member of the Democrat Party. And why doesn't anyone read WhiteHouse.gov website, to learn Bill "Clinton" was born Bill Blythe IV (a bastard Rockefeller). Bush's Skull & Bones cousin John Kerry was paid a $51-million bribe to not contest the election he won in 2004. DemoRats and RepubliCons both voted for NAFTA SHAFTA, and for giving US ports and Panama Canal to Commie China. Is there any way to reverse this trend? I doubt it, judging by how people want to whine or ignore the problem, rather than do something useful. Not arresting a drunk Cheney when he shoots man in the head is like dropping the winning touchdown pass in the Superbowl. Doh!

She is just trying to get you to buy her book. She is crazy, she was in the national guard for christ sakes, that is like the boy scouts with a little more fire power. I would not buy that book to start a fire. Go to her linked websites, it will lead to a back of the phone book law firm as well. Ambulance chasers as well no doubt.

I am from Corpus Christi TX and I can tell you from my own source in the Hospital that there was no SS cover up at all. No paper work was taken from Christus Spohn Hospital. Let me tell you we take gun safety very seriouse in South Texas my husband has been on exspensive deer and bird hunts all his life and no Alcohol is ever used, let me tell you why. It is called liability do you really think Armstrongs are going to let a bunch of drunk hunters shoot on there land especially one that is a lawyer. Smarten up, the sheriff had one of his men on the ranch doing security work do you think that man would risk his job to cover up a crime or the SS. Do you really think that a story like the VP drunk would be something that the Rep could keep under wrap, that is alot of people to buy off.My father and father-in-law have both been party animals in there youth, but they both have heart conditions now and one beer with all the med.they have to take is all they can handle. Drinking is not on their list of things they like to do. So you are trying to tell me the VP would risk liver, kidney and more heart problems just to get a buzz. Cheney made a mistake he shot without making sure he had a target in sight, it is called a accident. White water, Monica now that was a cover up, but you Democrats keep trying some people are stupid enough to believe your lies and you are a liar. I already proved you lied about the hospital and no sherif officer on the ranch at the time of the shooting.You have no crediability as a reporter just a bitter old man ranting.

Hi, I'd like to know who your sources on this story are? "Those that have talked to..." Is not a source. If you can't provide sources to your story, then you're nothing more than a slanderer.

K

I am surprised that considering the strict HIPAA laws governing patients, that the Secret Service was able to squirrel away those blood tests.

Why do you people hate America so much?

AJ - My 600-page book was not written for illiterate losers like yourselves, but for whistleblowers and citizens who actually want to make a difference. It requires an IQ of over 100 to comprehend it, so you're out of luck. You sound like enlisted, but you seem to have a very low opinion of yourself and your rank. I was squadron superintendent, first sergeant, dining halls manager, QA NCO, Readiness NCO for USAFE, contracting NCO. There was no higher-"ranking" enlisted job at my base in England. Then I was offered a job to work for Cheney in the SecDef office at Pentagon, which would outrank all 4 branches of military. That was my "reward" for identifying billions of dollars in FW&A. Since Bush and Cheney stole $4.5-TRILLION from Pentagon CAFR pension funds since 2001, I was probably just offered the job to keep an eye on me - "keep your friends close and your enemies closer". I wasn't a butt-kissing brownnoser like you, willing to perp any crime including treason to collect a pension. I retired from USAF on my terms, under early separation programs after Gulf War #1. Then I joined Tennessee Army National Guard for awhile, as a senior NCO. But the Gulf War Syndrome was too much to handle, since all medical treatment is denied, unless your rank is 3-star general and above. Check out GulfWarVets.com to read the US patents for Gulf War Mycoplasma "vaccines". Over 325,000 Gulf War vets are paid disability just from the VA, as of the 2000 census. And Cheney helped make them sick in the first place. BTW, why do you worship Cheney and Bush as your god?

How long have you been eating your own excrement?

I'm not sure who this Thompson fella is but I hear he use to be married to Wilma and is thinking of running for President in 08.

Not that I don't believe the story, I just find it very hard to believe. The reason is that the secret service agents would have been sworn to secercy. I am sure that they would want to keep their jobs. Did the secret service agents go around ratting on Clinton when he abused all those women?

Someone yelled "shooter", Cheney heard it as "Scooter", turned and drilled Whittington.

I don't know about Dick Cheney, but all the hunters I knew when I was little went to the moose hunting camp to drink and shoot.
May

Jeri & Kay,

SEEMS we have two factions in America these days. The majority that are asleep at the wheel and don't give a rats A.. about anything that isn't directly affecting them....some at that very moment

Then there are the rest, about 30-40% that are sharply divided over seemingly everything. In America, a true America that should NEVER be the case. Disagree, certainly, Differing opinions certainly but in the last 5 years especially, we have evolved in my opinion into a society that is so sharply divided that no matter what one CAMP (so to speak) says to the other CAMP...how unfortunate, the first thought is to come to blows over it.

Kay you fell victim to that when you said either provide the source or you are a slanderer. Had you stopped at the word source, you would have been absolutely right.. IMO continuing on made you non-credible.

I am not a 60's love light and peacenik. I do believe that intelligent, thoughtful, rational conversation well thought out by interested in the real facts, knowledgeable people with FACTS should prevail and it simply doesn't any more.

That said, YES, A source for this report of the hunters being drunk would be nice.. ALl the posters here are their own source for their own comments. It is this freedom of expression that is what America is supposed to be all about.

SO YES, the source or failing that the ACTUAL REPORT should be forthcoming. If it isn't then this whole thread is a waste of time....for everyone. AGREED ??

The problem is that this current Administration is and has been SO SECRETIVE about EVERYTHING even seemingly unimportant things and has this "my way or the highway" attitude about everything, that even their own party is starting to come apart. That makes intellegent, reasonable, courteous commentary MUTE.

WHAT A SHAME.

Hey Doug, Did your mama do drugs when she was pregnant with you?

As for your comment:

"The US Government is no longer a legal government. Former military members should remember their lifelong vow to defend the Constitution of the US from "ALL enemies, foreign and DOMESTIC". It is now time to start purging Democrats and Republicans from this great land of ours. These traitorous vermin must be exterminated before America can once again be the land of the free."

America IS the land of the free, (as evidenced by your unrestricted bullshit) because of Soldiers like me who are sworn to uphold the Constitution, even for moonbats like you.

Speaking of DOMESTIC enemies, you should have been as busy as a one legged man in an ass-kicking contest when Bubba Clinton held office. He and algore (one word) were real busy using the Oval Office as their personal conduit for unethical, immoral and illegal activities. His Chinese/Indonesian friends Charlie Trie, John Huang, and James Riady bought the 1996 “election” in exchange for information on, among other items, classified satellite technology, He illegally obtained FBI files on political adversaries, and fired the Travel Office which was and threatened them with surveillance if they talked. Not a peep out of you leftist shitbags.

You lefties are comprised of pseudo-anarchists, nihilists, and spineless MoveOn.org sycophants who would never let the facts get in the way of a good Bush bashing.

Traitorous vermin, indeed.

SFC MAC

I am wondering where you received this information from. My husband has worked with the Secret Service and under no circumstance would they have said anything to anyone even if it's true. Since their number one concern is protecting the vice-president, why would they risk their job over something that really has no importance to the public. Believe it or not no matter how hard the media tries to push this story is going nowhere. Maria

I am wondering where you received this information from. My husband has worked with the Secret Service and under no circumstance would they have said anything to anyone even if it's true. Since their number one concern is protecting the vice-president, why would they risk their job over something that really has no importance to the public. Believe it or not no matter how hard the media tries to push this the story is going nowhere. Maria

Sorry for the double post moderator you can delete it if you like. Maria

Doesen't this story sound familiar to the rest of the world? How any times are those with money/power and high governmental office positions going to get "preferencial treatment"?

If these facts are true, then SHAME on our presidential office and our government for allowing this "COVER-UP" to take place.

It's no wonder that most Americans have no respect left for our leaders and are demanding that we need to change the way our country's being run and give America back some dignity.

If this incident had happened to an average citizen, you can bet, that if we told the police not to come onto our property to investigate a shooting, we would be arrested for obstructing an investigation.

Isn't destroying evidence, blocking an investigation, threatening witnesses and lieing to law enforcement against the law? I certainly thought it was and so do many inmates locked in our prisons on these charges.

Obviously, we American citizen peons are disposable and are the only ones who are held accountable for breaking the laws of our Nation!!

It's getting time for we Americans to hold another "TEA PARTY" before our country is completely destroyed by our corrupt government officials!

Who wrote this? I do not believe it. What is the name of the Secret Service Agent? He should be fired since this info should be confidential and any remarks should come from the White House not from an Agent.

ANN HAWTHORNE:

You are one of many reasons America is in the state it is in with this administration.

COVERUP, LIES, DECEPTIONS, SECRETS....WHATEVER

I for one want to hear the truth, want to see the report. I don't give a damn who the agent is other than he is totally validated as an actual agent, that WAS THERE and the one that WROTE the report IF it exists at all. This could all be disinformation handed Doug at CHB simply to see if he would buy it.

Look, like it or not, this whole incident is 180°OUT from what normally would happen to anyone. RANK, STATUS, POSITION, has no privilige here.

People, even Presidents and Vice-Presidents make mistakes. Admit it, get it out in the open and MOVE ON is the way to go, not cover-ups, denials, postponements, lies whatever.

This administration has done nothing but screw the American people since day one with their actions from the simplest accident to items of national security. I'll bet we've uncovered only a fraction of the actual count.

This story may be bogus, but as a free people we deserve the truth, not another cover-up to protect your precious administration.

If these were Democrats you would get the VERY SAME letter

I knew a story like this would come out. This was my speculation fron the moment I heard of the accident. Sad so many people involved with this are bought and paid for.

Conspiracy theories are the sophistication of the ignorant.

G:

YES THEY ARE, THIS IS NOT

Say they all.

(BTW: hit your "Caps Lock" key, please. It's on the left side of your keyboard, above the "Shift" key.)

There are so many version of what happened. More holes than Swiss cheese. Kenedy County has 407 inhabitants and the Armstrong family, owners of the 50,000 plus acre spread rule the area like feudal lords.

The way this incident was handled stinks and many questions remain unanswered.

There are so many version of what happened. More holes than Swiss cheese. Kenedy County has 407 inhabitants and the Armstrong family, owners of the 50,000 plus acre spread rule the area like feudal lords.

The way this incident was handled stinks and many questions remain unanswered.

To all those posting here in support of the current administration and the VP, what have they ever done for you? Did they pay your mortgage this month? Did they take you to dinner? Do they even know you exist. Get over it. Blind allegiance to any party is fool-hardy. If anyone thinks that in this time in American that someone runs for office for the good of the country, they are living in OZ.

Cheney's "a beer" comment reminds me of what "it" is...

A GLASS..8oz
A CAN..12oz
A "KINGER" CAN..16oz
A SIX-PACK..72oz
HOW ABOUT A CASE..288oz
OR MAYBE A HALF KEG..1267oz
oh-wait-he's-a-big-buy-what-about
A FULL KEG..2534oz

THAT'S A LOTTA BEER!

Just ask the ranchhands (they don't call then servants in Texas) you can be sure the VP didn't carry his own cooler to the picnic.

I see that several Munchkins who still believe in the false dichotomy of the two party system are dog fighting here.

Someday when we're toasting batwings around hobo campfires (could you please pass the salt?) we can all have a good belly laugh when someone explains how those damned (fill in the blanks) crashed the economy. But God forbid we should line up behind Doug Thompson who is the MAC DADDY of patriot journalists, and try to save America for our kids.

By the way, I've shot pen raised quail. Although they are raised in a semi free flying enclosure they don't fly as well as wild birds, which are disappearing from their range. This is because of too many nest robbing predators, farmers clear cutting all of their grass and hedgerows and pesticides that control the yummy insects they need to feed their offspring.

Before the "hunt" begins, the caged birds are violently shaken and then released into hedges, and there they will sit until a dog or hunter spooks them.

It's good target practice but, it ain't exactly hunting.

Canned hunts are to hunting what calls girls are to romance.

"Don't blame me, I voted for Kodos!"__H. Simpson

You are obviously an assbag liberal with an axe to grind.

I repeat my comment from way above, but change the name, Tami Lee, You Ma'am, are an idiot

To the defenders of Bush-Cheney who have spewed their venom and idiocy on this page, I say this:

You have forfeited your right to whine about ANYONE who expresses concern about or is critical of American presidents. I am no supporter of Clinton, but the zeal with which you guys went after the last president, trying to dig up dusty skeletons or construct preposterous allegations out of thin gruel (at taxpayer expense) was so wildly disproportionate to the man's actual moral and political failings that it said more about your sanity and total lack of rationality than it did about him.

There was once a time when conservatives in this country were suspicious of government power; they questioned government officials, they believed in genuine accountability; they asked hard questions without fear of having "treason" thown in their face by people who have turned their brains off.

No more. You have thrown your lot in with fascists. History will not be kind to you. If the human race survives the next century, YOU and the Bush clan will be regarded with the same contempt as rational people today look back on history's worst villains.

This is pretty amusing. More red meat for BDS sufferers! Well, the PESTs have to have something I guess. The Right has the Clinton Death List, the Left has... this, apparently.

Sorry, but it sounds very made-up. Given the other stuff on this site, I say there's maybe 1 chance in a million that anything Thompson's "sources" (snicker) are saying is true. If any of it were true, this story would be all over the MSM, not just on a moonbat site.

(MAC DADDY patriot journalist?? Sure, and Ann Coulter is a voice of sanity and restraint.)

Yeah, you're right.

There ought to be a law against criticizing the closet homo in The White House. (You know, the cheerleader named "Lips")

And, the difference between Coulter and Thompson is, Coulter is a rank political advocate for a wormy system that is destroying America.

Thompson isn't.

Doug I was hoping to chat with you on our program about this story. Can you please contact me via e-mail. Cheers.

Julio Pastora
CKNW Producer

First:
Using phrases like "gunned down" to describe a hunting accident is not reporting. It is not even opinion, though I respect the right of Doug Thompson to express his.

Second, it is filled with what I believe are gross mis-statements based on a misunderstanding of gun culture and Southern culture. I've hunted all my life and have never (ok, I was 13 and found a bottle of wine..and vodka...and there were guns present..) hunted while any alcoholic beverages were being consumed. The line about "This was a south texas hunt.....of course there was drinking.....there's always drinking....lots of it" is, in my experience, completely slanderous of Texans, hunters, and responsible gun owners in general. It may or not be true in this instance--I don't know for sure. But overall, that's not true.

Third, here's the core information that spawns this article: "We talked with a number of administration officials who are privy to inside information on the Vice President's shooting "accident" and all admit Secret Service agents and others say they saw Cheney consume far more than the "one beer' he claimed he drank at lunch earlier that day."

So we have "a number" of officials who say they "admit" (notice they didn't even claim to personally hear this from an agent) others say (not "said" in their presence) they witnessed VP Cheney drink "far more" than one beer.

This isn't implausible--but it's far from documented. It's not news. It's not even claiming to be second or third hand--it's carefully worded to avoid any "hands."

In other words, here's the article in plain English:

"Rumors are spreading all over the Internet that Cheney was drunk when he shot Harry Whittington. We called staffers who said they'd heard the same rumors. We have no hope of proving it, but that won't stop us from writing this and claiming that it's the evil Bushites fault that we can't prove a word of it."

There is no disputing that neither sheriff's deputies nor wildlife enforcement agents were permitted to conduct timely investigations, and that delay could only have been to benefit Cheney, no matter what the reason(s).

There are people rotting in GITMO for far less suspicious activity.

I'm so comforted knowing that the leaders who govern our country treat the laws they create, govern and set example by following, with such fairness, respect and honesty. Isn't it a relief that people who we have in such high office take their role so seriously and live their lives so honestly and sincerely, with respect for the office they hold for the American people. Most of the stout and BLIND Republican followers of our country will simply brush this off as a lie and distortion, and there is NOTHING we can do about it but simply say, "MAN! I'm sure glad I don't live in a country where we have NO freedom of choice!!!" I feel so much better now.....Knowing it could be worse makes it so much more acceptable! Do I detect a little sarcasm here? YOU BET I DO!!!

"That's my story and I'm stickin to it!"
Susan from Nashville, TN

I have never been to this site before, so I don't really know how valid the reporting is here. But I will say in this article about the Cheney hunting accident there seems to be alot of he said/she said but no actual quotes from any dependable source. So I was kind of surprised at the writers belief in all of this as the gospel truth. Ha, ha I just looked at the sentences planted on this post page. "There are people rotting in Gitmo for far less suspicious activity" at the top and "Rumsfeld lies about stopping pay for press program" at the bottom. Wow Toto I don't think we are in Kansas anymore. I think I just stumbled into some Ex college professor's bash the right, circle jerk.

Truth 101,

My eyes and ears are wide open I clicked this site to be informed and found just lies. Since I have talked to Democratic nurses and Dr who treated Mr Whittington at Spohn hospital in C.C. and they have told me that no paper work was ever taken from Mr Whittingtons chart, meaning no cover up by the SS.The rest of my blog was just personal exsperience from knowing Hunting guides, ranch owners in Texas and game wardins. I cannot tell you what happens in other areas of the country I can just tell you ranch owners who allow a hunting party to get drunk and then go hunting do not own their property very long in Texas. I also am a common sense kind of girl do you really think the SS would let drunk men with guns around the VP. Do you think that if the VP was drunk the republicans could keep this under wrap to many people from ranch hands to hospital workers where around the hunting party and the only source Doug has is SS people working in Washington that was suppose to be guarding the VP. The TRUTH always comes out and their is NO TRUTH in this RANT. Cheney did get a ticket from the game warden I guess he isn't that slick at getting out of things. Let's talk about real cover up not made up ones. Because I want the TRUTH from my goverment no matter who is in office.

Until we start using a polygraph on these high ranking criminals we will never get the truth. If the general public must suffer the consequences of their own actions then, to be fair, politicians should also be held accountable for their's. To hell with the policy that grants political protection to these liars. Their guilt is greater due to the high office they hold and the oath they took. I say make Chenney pay for his mistakes just like the average citizen. There are not supposed to be one set of laws for us and another for them. This is one sure way of creating outrage amoung the people of this land. An outrage that will grow into a revolution. We must get rid of the criminals in our government. Lets start with Chenney and continue towards Bush. I, for one, am tired of the lies, the killing, and the damaging effects being perpetrated against the Earth and its inhabitants.
We must stand up and be heard.

The govt has already released several British nationals from Guantanamo Bay after our "ally" insisted that they be charged or released.

Now, if these people are dangerous terrorists then why were they released?

If not, then why were they incarcerated?

These are the types of questions that Your average FAUX NEWS viewers (who can't wait to be lied to) would never think to ask.

Our founders believed that the citizens' grand and petit juries were essential to liberty for one historically proven reason; Govt cannot be trusted with the power to indict and convict because they immediately set about destroying their political enemies with the power.

BushCo is so annoyed by these constitutional limitations on their power that they simply discarded the bill of rights, and they now claim to have the absolute power to jail whoever, whenever for whatever, and God damn the "suspicious persons" who question it.

If a little power is good, then a lot is better, right?
No? Why not?

The spirit of J. Edgar Hoover (another lifelong conservative closet homo) is alive and well, and roaming the corridors of power.

Quote: Until we start using a polygraph on these high ranking criminals we will never get the truth.

ginger, a polygraph was once accurately described by an expert as "A mechanical Charlie McCarthy".

It is most effective when someone who fears it refuses to submit to examination.

There is no scientific basis for it. It's a racket.

Your article has to many unsubstantiated "quotes" to be taken as a valid news story. I am not a fan of VP Cheney but I only try to make judgements based on facts not VP bashing.

This is so last week. This week it's the Arabs running the ports issue and next week it will be Iraq melting down. The week after, who knows.

Great Story...Kust that a story. Show some proof!
You should sued for slander!!

Great Story...just that a story. Show some proof!
You should sued for slander!!

Most of us are just jealous because Dick Cheney got to shoot an attorney.

I heard that this accident happened because Dick Cheney thought he saw John Kerry hiding in the bushes.

Wouldn't matter if the sheriff came in. Money would change hands (as it most likely did) and the report would be the same.

These guys absolutely cannot be trusted to ever tell the truth.

I've been on hunting camps in South Texas. I've knowm people that have worked on hunting camps in South Texas. The convenience stores used to advertise come on in and pick up your beer and shotguns shells. A hunting camp in South Texas that doesn't have a fully stocked bar isn't a hunting camp.

This is propaganga, not news, and should be labeled as such.

You can always tell when your onto the truth by the amount of opposition that you get. And, the oppostion is going berserk on this one.

In glancing over all the comments on this page, I never noticed one comment with interesting pieces of information or facts. Although many comments were sincere, I did see a good number of goofy comments with no real purpose but to blabber.

Let's look at some interesting points.

1.) It was stated that Cheney was hunting with a 28 gauge shotgun.
2.) The 28 gauge shells being used had #7-1/2 upland game bird shot.
3.) Mr. Whittington had about 126 pieces of bird shot in his skin and body.
4.) Cheney supposedly only fired one round.
5.) Mr. Whittington was about 30 yards away.

The maximum amount of #7-1/2 bird shot in a 28 gauge shotgun shell is 80 pieces.

Do the math on this. If Whittington had 126 pieces of bird shot in his face and body and the maximum amount of bird shot in one 28 gauge shell is 80, then Whittington had to be shot twice and at close range.

With the heavy clothing they were wearing and Whittington being 30 yards away, no shot could have penetrated his body and traveled to the heart. This doesn't compute.

Contact any gun shop and they will tell you how many pieces of #7-1/2 bird shot are in a 28 gauge shell. Contact any heart specialist and they will tell you that bird shot cannot travel through the skin and to the heart at 30 yards with heavy hunting clothes on.

Cheney may have been drunk. We will never know the complete truth from this very secretive and deceitful administration.

Considering this information, it seems likely that Whittington was much closer than 30 yards and shot twice in order to put 126 pieces of lead into his body.

No one to my knowledge mentioned this in their comments. Whether Cheney was drunk or not, this scenario as stated by Cheney and backed by the White House does not compute very well.

Of course, Cheney got special treatment in this case and throughout his life. While the rest of us risked our lives in war, Dick Cheney had more important things to do.

The same was true with George W. Bush whose daddy got him into a cushy job in the Texas Guard, by-passing many others. Then George tired of it all and just disappeared for approximately a year. Most vets will understand about being tired of it all. Lesser AWOL soldiers are declared a deserter after 30 days. In time of war, desertion is a serious crime, punishable by death. If I had done the same, I would still be in Levenworth.

Dick Cheney and the Armstrongs who run south Texas got the sheriff to give him a pass. Anyone else would have been tested for alcohol and prosecuted to the fullest extent to the law. Can you imagine anyone else, anywhere telling law enforcement that the ranch is closed today and that he would need to come back tomorrow? This sheriff is complicit in a cover-up. He is a disgrace to Texas just as Dick Cheney is a disgrace to the nation.

As each day passes, we see more and more corruption in this administration. And they impeached a president over lying about sex?

You guys are laughable. Do you really think that the Secret Service would allow Cheney to be "visibly drunk" and handling firearms? Not to mention other people with guns drinking around him. They get nervous when someone in the room has a pair of scissors. You liberal whinebags are ridiculous, but at least you provide me with some laughs.

George you dick! You're supposed to be running this country not trolling web sites. Get your ass back to work, there's still meat on this bone!

Geeeeze

You are not a patriot. The only reason you would post this is because you hate freedom.

You should get yourself a personal relationship with Jesus. Then you can thank Him for giving you a President wise enough to give away control of our ports to Dubai.

Sure, two of the 9/11 terrorists came from Dubai and most of the money came through their banking system. What about it? Why are you even thinking about that? Real Americans don't need to worry about security.

You must hate freedom, a LOT.

Aw heck an darn. Course he was drunk. That's what ya do on a damn huntin trip down here, ya get tanked and play with guns!

From a Texan who knows.

Although this story sounds like a good "spy plot", perhaps everyone should take into consideration all the "misleading information" we been given by this present presidential administration.

Instead of accusing Rep/Dem of ploting these "clues" to keep things stirred up on Capital Hill to avoid "real issues", these facts just may be legitimate.

What better way to, once again try to save their butts, than to accuse Mr.Thompson of making up all of this just for his own entertainment.

Personally, I would believe Mr.Thompson before I would believe anything that comes out of the White House. Mr.Thompson's "lie" sounds much more convienceing than the "big lie" that was told to the general press corps by the White House staff.

Doug,
This is very interesting - but whatever happened to your "no more unnamed sources" policy? Was there no one who was willing to go on the record with regard to this story?

"This is very interesting - but whatever happened to your "no more unnamed sources" policy? Was there no one who was willing to go on the record with regard to this story?"

In this day and age, getting a source to go on the record is damn near impossible. The White House's record of retribution is well-documented. All I can do is try to verify the story with as many sources as possible and go with it if I can. As I have said many times, when we make a mistake (and I've made some doozies), we admit it. We haven't had too very often and I'll stand on that record.

Doug

It is a "GOOD AND SOUND" thought to act on the request for an "Open and Full Investigation" on the Prez and co. with the leading witness of a "Lie Detector system evaluation." For Congress is not responding to the obvious "Leading Events" of crimes committed by the Bush administration and associates. Why is Congress ignoring such leading evidence to FRAUD? Perhaps the answer can be found, in the White House closet, that supplies their deep dark telling skeletons.

If these deep dark telling skeletons had a layer of human flesh, they would rise to their call of duty and honor, and CONFESS THE TRUTH!

By doing so, they would save the world from self-destructing into more deep dark telling skeletons, . . . And these deep dark telling skeletons won’t be found in the closet of the White House, they will be discovered under the earth, . . . for everlasting too ever lasting!

I read alot about sources saying things and secret service saying things but nothing that shows any proof that any of this is true. You could write a story about having a dance on Mars with more fact in it than this story.

I want Cheney to hang as much as anyone but I don't see how making up a story that has no corroboration but passing it off as factual does anyone any good.

The thing about this story is that it fits all the details, all the discrepancies in timing, the refusals, the omissions, their own personal histories..../everything/ so perfectly, that a reasonably intelligent person would likely have already settled on it as the best explanation for the entire episode. It's also likely that it's only our innate respect for leaders (love 'em or hate them) that has allowed the spin to effectively cause doubt where there really should be none. Were he a working class Joe, there certainly wouldn't be any.

It is nice to see that there are still some honest people serving in the Secret Service who will still tell the truth.
That said, anyone who has fallowed the histories of our "compassionate leadership" already "knew" that Dickie-boy was drunk outta his vicious little mind when he shot the dude....and waited long enough for THE WHOLE DAMNED GANG TO GET SOBER ENOUGH TO TALK TO "THE FUZZ", who, not so incidentally, are on the payroll of the "Grand Old Plunderers" of the "Big Oil Cabal", of which the Bush Family is a Paid Up Member, along will all the folks at "Cheney's Turkey Shoot"..."Quayle wasn't even there, or he'd probably have gotten it, too!)....

Yeah he was drunk what do you expect from a redneck Republican

Typical of the Bush administrations disregard for the laws of this country. Now if it were a black man or a gay, they would have been haled off to jail for sure.

Whether or not the results are available, people know the truth and if enough of these people were to talk, Americans would eventually come to realize the truth. He was drunk. The SS are nothing less than a modern day chapter of the Gestapo and our country is being run by a bunch of crooks and liars.

It's kind of humorous reading all the conspiracies contained within. I find the first "Report" is filled with "Quotes" and they even include the "Impressive quote marks" to make them look like they are legitimate. If these "Quotes" from the "secret Service" were "real" the "Press" who votes "98%" democratic "Statistic is real" they would be reported in major newspapers and TV stations See a varifiable piece of info that can be found, quantified and verified by more than one source. The press would SO be on this. What a victory to pull down the VP. You know why they haven't reported anything in this sites accusations. Because they are lies and fantacies. If the author made them up then I cant imagine how he sleeps at night. If he is taking this information from some other unchecked source, then he is merely repaeating a lie and does not have the wisdom to see a truth from a lie.
This is a problem you dems will have to get away from, for your own sanity. I know some Republicans who believed that Bill Clinton had Ron Brown killed. No it true before the plane he was in crashed Ron Brown was shot in the back of the head. His X-Rays are of public record. There is what appears to be a hole in his skull right where you'd put a gun. The problem is, is that there is a completely honest and logical explanation for the hole in the head of Ron Brown. The X-Ray Machine had a flaw. How do we know that, because all the people who died and had autopsies performed all had a dark hole in their X-Rays. But you could believe the fromer and Bill Clinton killed Ron Brown and only luckily did the whole plane crash to cover it all up.
If you folks knew anything about The Secret Service, VP Cheney or anything at all, you would not be making such fools of yourselves. The Sercret Service is an arm of LAW Enforcement, they would not let anyone drunk hold a gun near the VP let alone let the VP go out drunk. DAHHhhh. Secondly in Washington there are those who known for their drinking and for their not drinking and some known for their consistance of having one or two drinks and stopping. Guess what Cheney is well known for? Yes he's a one beer man. Well known by everyone in Wash DC
The Armstrong's couldn't stop the police from evntering their property, a shooting had occurred and Armstrong's had no power to do so. Secondly if you watched any of the news you'd seen the Serrif's being asked questions of the press while on the Armstrong Property. Another Lie foiled.
Start using disernment and logical thinking and you will live a happier less hate filled life

I think it is a shame that this incident happened in the first place, but it is a bigger shame that it was covered up. The whole government is corrupt from the very lowest,from county government and all the way to the top

I Agree with Doug, I don't like being lied to, whether It is a President, family member, co-worker, or partner in crime, I don't tolerate it,......please take your Neo-Con Nightmare and get lost.

Thanks -- but, DUH!

Dear Doug,

Just shreding a Secret Service memo ought to be enough someone to jail. I'm beginning to feel sorry for GWB he's been so badly served by his aids and staff.

I say we get Cheney liquored up and turn him loose in Iraq. The war would be over in a matter of days.

That being said, just another example of politics as usual - money and power still rules the world.

MMH said: "I have been peppered many times while hunting, I did not call the police. If you know anything about hunting it happens all the time."

LOL. That's the stupidest attempt at trying to sound like someone who knows something I've ever heard in my entire life!! "happens all the time!!!" Whaaahhahahaha !!! What an unbelievably stupid thing to say! Right... Hunters shoot each other on a regular basis! It's no big deal??! What an idiot.

I guess because McClellan downplayed the incident by casually referring to the shooting as a "peppering", idiot-stick here thinks it really must be a common, casual occurrence. Wrong!!! Very uncommon. And if you were truly a hunter, you'd know that. That leaves us with one alternative. You're a liar.
You're just another one of those little "I have to defend Bush at all costs because if even half the things everyone else in the world knows about him are true, then I've been such an idiot that I won't even be able to look at myself in the mirror anymore, nevertheless admit to my grandchildren that I was one of 'those' people who were fooled so completely"... kind of pathetic little worm. No, I feel for you. Really! I do. I'd hate to be in your shoes. I'd commit suicide probably.

another story on DUI convictions 2/17/2006, this one in the conservative Financial Times of London
http://news.ft.com/cms/s/f5619aaa-9ff1-11da-a703-0000779e2340,s01=1.html

"Mr Cheney’s political elevation is remarkable for a man who – according to a New Yorker profile in 2001 – flunked Harvard and became a power lineman. He tried Yale but left with poor grades. Returning to work as a lineman, he was arrested twice within a year for drink-driving."

There's your source for the story. Of course he was drunk. Get real, people! Why else delay speaking to the law? You or me ever get away with that kind of nonsense? Come on!

In a swamp of half-truths and hypotheticals you finally summarize with "Opponents of the war say the only Al Qaeda elements in Iraq prior to the U.S. invasion were those in Kurdish areas not controlled by Saddam. This simply is not so,"

Oh? The camps were on the Iran/Iraq border, well into the northern no-fly zone. You know it and I know it. But I'm not desperate to prove I wasn't wrong about Bush, as you clearly are.

You continue..."but for the sake of argument, let’s say it is. And if so, would not the U.S. – as a critical front in the global war on terror – have to invade those areas to shut down the Al Qaeda cells? Of course. And that in itself would have been a far more dangerous “limited war” with Iraq involving a direct ground confrontation with Saddam’s army anyway.

This is absurd. These were small camps of Iranian backed jihadists who were there initially to overthrow Saddam Hussein, hopefully with the help of militant Kurds who wanted Hussein gone as well. You're saying that attacking these few hundred militants AT BEST (when you should have been helping them overthrow Hussein /if/ that's really all Bush wanted) would have been more dangerous than attacking the entire Iraqi army? C'mon... Even you can't possibly believe that nonsense. Just give it up. It's a losing battle trying to defend Bush.

Listen you guys. Everyone has been lied to and taken in by a lying politician at one time. There's no shame in that. That's what politicians do best. Lie. But this ongoing defense of Bush is turning into something that your not going to be able to forgive yourself for later in life. Just admit the obvious and be done with the fool. He used 9/11 to cynically secure more power to himself at the expense of the Constitution and our kids lives. It's obvious. Everyone else in the world knows this but for a few of you who are too ashamed to admit to themselves how badly they've been fooled. But you're digging yourself even deeper! The sooner you admit it, the sooner you can say you knew how bad he was as a president. Start now. Beat the rush. Don't be the last one standing out in the rain with a limp GOP sticker on your forehead.

Now we know why Ol' Dick didn't accompany his friend to the hospital and in fact did not go to the hospital till the following afternoon. He was drunk and so were the two women (Not either of the mens wives by the way) that were part of the weekend party. It must of been a real shoot'em up weekend. How many of you would not go with your friend you had just shot? Think about it. Connect the dots!!

Dave Patton wrote:

"1.) It was stated that Cheney was hunting with a 28 gauge shotgun.
2.) The 28 gauge shells being used had #7-1/2 upland game bird shot.
3.) Mr. Whittington had about 126 pieces of bird shot in his skin and body.
4.) Cheney supposedly only fired one round.
5.) Mr. Whittington was about 30 yards away.

The maximum amount of #7-1/2 bird shot in a 28 gauge shotgun shell is 80 pieces."
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Oops!

There are approximately 350-# 7 1/2 pellets per oz.

A standard 28 ga hunting load is 7/8 oz.

By my math that means Cheney fired over 300 pellets with each trigger slap. (According to Chuck Hawks there are only 262 pellets in Remington's 28 ga 7/8 oz shotshell, but let's not quibble over the small change.)

Even the puny .410 shell holds 175 #7 1/2 shot pellets or almost double what you believe was fired at the shyster.

You may want to find a new gunshop "expert" to advise you, Dave.

Doug Thompson's "report" and in turn Capitol Hill Blue have totally fabricated this so-called "story": I challenge any reader, blogger or other psychophant to prove any part of the allegations are true.

WJFK's "Don& Mike Show" -- of whom I am a longtime fan -- "newsman" Buzz Burbank (that says it all) reported this story, quoting from Thompson's Capitol Hill Blue as his source.

And here I thought Capitol Hill Blue had gone out of business: it was once a fairly interesting if not often credible source on "the net". Now it has become nothing less than just another Bash Bush, Bash Cheney rag blog. Sad.

nick.thimmesch@earthlink.net

nick wrote:

"I challenge any reader, blogger or other psychophant to prove any part of the allegations are true."

Why should we bother? Cheney is polling at 29%, the neocrook shills are talking up a storm but nobody believes them, and I couldn't be happier!

Why does this not come as a surprise to me? Obviously the whole lot of over weight overindulgent fascists chose the right place to get drunk with guns. The local police are obviously well payed by the republican land owners and do their bidding. Even the lwayer tha got shot got the day of the shooting wrong and said it was the friday.

That Thompson guy is someone who is probably telling the truth. You republicans just can't stand it for someone to say anything derogetory about your precious leaders in W.D.C.

Suddenly all those stories about the über-frat brothers at Bohemian Grove start to make more sense...

HOUNDDAWG SEXUALLY ASSAULTS THREE YEAR OLD BOY
Poll Finds Just 1% Believe Dawg Didn't Do It
By Doug Thompson

If Cheney was drunk like they say then he should also pay the price like the rest of us if we would have done this horrible injustice

Most of the official story of this event flies in the face of common sense. Not allowing he local cops in at once is outrageous and doesn’t pass the smell test. Next upon admission of the accident they blamed the victim, which is not a surprise remember these are Republicans. My next thought was he fell or stumbled and discharged the gun. Recently on WI public radio a man phoned in to one of the shows explaining how he and others had tested the shot pattern of the gun used to determine the distance required to produce such a pattern. He revealed that it was more near 15 to 30 feet not the 30 yards stated by our drunken lying VP. It is an extreme national security risk for our VP to be getting drink under any circumstances. As recovering alcoholic I can assure you that ones judgment is seriously affected for a very long time. Not just the time required to clear the blood of any alcohol.

Quote:

"HOUNDDAWG SEXUALLY ASSAULTS THREE YEAR OLD BOY
Poll Finds Just 1% Believe Dawg Didn't Do It
By Doug Thompson"
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Res ipsa loquitur.

Your desperation gives me a warm, fuzzy feeling all over.

Hey "Dawg": At least 1% of those polled believe you, just like this story.

QUOTE:

"Recently on WI public radio a man phoned in to one of the shows explaining how he and others had tested the shot pattern of the gun used to determine the distance required to produce such a pattern. He revealed that it was more near 15 to 30 feet not the 30 yards stated by our drunken lying VP."
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No. that's incorrect.

First of all, none of the news stories stated the chokes of Cheney's double barreled Perazzi, and the shot pattern from a full choked 28 ga at 15 to 30 feet would be no bigger than my fist. (Full and modified or modified and improved cylinder chokes are standard pairings on smaller gauge double barreled bird guns.)

And, at that ridiculously close range the lawyer would have had closer to 300 pellets in him, and he'd most likely be dead.
Another "expert" (who apparently doesn't know what the chokes are on Cheney's gun) claimed that the spread would be 44 inches at 30 yards. This is so ridiculous as to be laughable.
Cheney couldn't harvest small quail size birds with that little bore restriction.

Shotguns are paper patterned at 40 yds on a 30 inch circle. A full choked 12 gauge will put 65% to 75% of the pellets inside the circle at 40 yds, and a 28 gauge pattern would be even tighter. And, ten yds closer would be tighter still.

Like Alex Jones, these "experts" that seem to be coming out of the woodwork don't know diddly about shotguns.

The one thing I do believe is the approximate reported range at which this negligent discharge took place.

Ha Ha, I like Science Ficton with humor all the time. Like secert service personal are going to say anything to the public or press. Everybody connected to the President and Vice President, know that without a doubt that their life would be ruined. They would never hold a high level job for the rest of their life.

QUOTE:

"Hey "Dawg": At least 1% of those polled believe you, just like this story."

I'd be interested to know just what that 1% believes since I've offered no statement. In other words, it's a poor example, but that doesn't hinder BushCo's fawning lickspittles.

This person said that and this person says this. But never never do you give names of the people saying he had been drinking.

The word that sticks is "fiefdom". Beyond the immediate story of one drunken fat-cat shooting another and skating away clean, this denotes a much greater tragedy. As a nation, we have retreated from democratic rule, upholding the common interest, egalitarianism, and justice. All that stuff is now seen as socialism to be jettisoned, and in its place we have accepted a return to rule by the elite.

The future looks exactly like the bad old past, where the lords did as they damned well pleased while the rest of us catered to their needs and whims, and if we wanted to garner their favor, actively repressed retelling their indiscretions. Our country is being reformed on an atavistic model, if not exactly on the French aristocracy, at least on something like a South Texas hunting fiefdom.

Well, Dawg: let's give you more of an opportunity than you or the rest of The Tin Foil Brigade give/gave Cheney.

Please explain just what you were doing with that three year old's pants down?

You blue libs will conjur anything up to get back in power.

Cheney is laughing all the way to the bar!!

Screw you all on this piss ant board!

This is basically bullsh-t. I have have the pleasure of quail and geese hunting in Texas adjacent to the Armstrong Ranch on several occasions as well as pheasant and ducks in South Dakota, quail and pheasant in Kansas and of course dove in Arizona and have never hunted or seen anyone else hunt after a round of drinks in the morning. Not to say that we didn't have an occasional beer while hunting but I have never seen anyone inebriated during hunting hours. Just because it was a south Texas hunt doesn't mean people were doing serious drinking during or before the hunt and unfounded generalizations of this kind don't lead to the truth. Sounds like more liberal horseshit to me.

Gee, I wonder how drunk Ted Kennedy was the night he ran his car off that bridge into the water. He waited 11 hours to report the "accident" allowing himself time to sober up while Mary Jo drowned. He runs Massachusetts like his own "fifedom" but Democrats have no problem with that. Cheney's incident was clearly an accident caused by Whittington's carelessness. Kennedy got away with MURDER!

Air America has Doug's column " Secret Service agents say Cheney was drunk when he shot lawyer" quoted with attribution on their web site.

http://www.airamericaradio.com/

I also saw it quoted on BartCop.com

This has got to be the best continuing reality show out there! I can't get enough of it. I give it's cast members and crew rave reviews. I can't wait until the next bumbling idiot makes his move. I'd be drinking too if I had to lie, cheat and steal everyday to make a living. What I can't stand is that nothing is being done about it. Our country, our freedoms, our way of life seems to be shrinking before our very eyes and it all comes to us live, every day on the internet, TV and in the newspapers. There has got to be a sure way to get these inadequate, lieing, facist, neo-cons out of here. It's time to begin the healing of our wounds with a truly, honest, hard working, law abiding, citizen advocating administration that is transparent and seeks a positive agenda for the security, rights and freedoms that we all deserve.

Doug, come out from where ever you hide you dog,You are a LIAR, IDOIT, and a democrat. Anyone with COMMON sence would know an security agent would not give you the time of day. Also he would want to keep his job. 2-24-06

Comrade Rosemary:

You said, "There has got to be a sure way to get the inadequate, lieing, facist, neo-cons out of here".

Oh, my sweet comrade, just take my advice: "Pick up the gun".

Do it your own lazy ass self: start a violent revolution and overthrow the current government.

GOOD THING HE WAS DRUNK WHEN HE SHOT THE GUY AND HAD THE GOOD JUDGEMENT NOT TO GET CAUGHT GETTING A BLOW JOB, HE WOULD'VE BEEN IN REAL TROUBLE THEN.

Good grief someone needs to get a freakin life. I'm sure he was probably taking acid and hunting blindfolded with an uzi but who really cares - the guy lived so let's get on with life shall we?

What is Capitol Hill Blue's source?

Thomas:

Our sources were identified in the article (but not by name). We don't burn our sources and, given the administration's documented record of retaliation against those who dare speak out, we honor their request for confidentiality.

Thanks for commenting.

Doug

You know when the rummers started swirling about Clintons Whits house lawyer was killed instead of killing hisself. I waited for proof or at least other sources besides one group to say yup he was murdered. I have no clue about guns but aren't all guns shooting pattern different. Cheney's gun was a Italian model so how can you simulate a shot pattern without the same kind of gun and was your friend the same size as Cheney when you shot him in the face. I mean if you are going to recreate a hunting accident you must be acurate.I used to drink in my youth but now adays with all my medicine I am lucky I even finish one beer. This story died before Doug put a periode at the end, better luck next time. I do believe the story about Hounddawg though it sound reliable to me.Those people up there do that kind of thing.

Why oh why has Pamela Williford not been interviewed, pursued by the press or ??? She was another withness or is her relationship with the vp even more secret than his "one" beer....this whole thing stinks, but what did we expect?

Please send me a copy of your mission statement or your editorial policy. I wanted to use your article in class, but I need a copy of either your mission statement or editorial policy.

Thank you for confirming what I had preceived as the real issue behind the delay in making an HONEST announcemnt regarding the shooting of Whittington by Cheney. Doesn't it take approximately 14 hours for alcohol to dissipate. The announcement was not made until approximately 24 hours after the fact.
The AVERAGE JOE would have been charged with all related offenses immediately. Why does Cheney think he is above the law. Then again, the white house leaders thinks they are above the law. What a corrupt and arrogrant administration we have representing the USA. Everyone involved in this matter should be held accountable from Texas to Washington. Imagine what would kind of coverup there would have been if Whittington had died. Wake up American. Haven't we had enough lies and deception.

This is the only explanation that makes any sense about the whole incident.

I'd bet that Cheney's emperor grade shotgun has interchangeable choke tubes, and he is such a practiced shot that he can easily down birds with modified and full choke tubes.

The pattern in the unfortunate man's chest looked like mod choke at 30 yds to me. The mod barrel is fired first, and the tighter full is saved for escaping birds that are farther away.

Great story and hope it gets out more to the media. Thanks for enlightening me.

Margo

The cover-ups continue. And the members of this administration continue to exercise an outrageous sense of entitlement with regard to the law. What's good for the goose (us common folk) obviously isn't good for the gander (Cheney, et al).

Peope with rank and/or wealth should never be allowed to avoid the consequences of their actions by placing themselves above the law.

Is this a REP Rag or are you on the up and up!!

An unatttributable story. Too bad, because it does offer the best explanation of events. The cover up cocktail to 'calm his nerves', not leaving the ranch to be at the hospital, the effective lockout of the interviewing deputy for 15 hours or so. But one thing the incident does unequivocally prove, and I grew up around shotguns (though I never measured shot patterns of my full choke versus modified chokes). It proves that Dick Cheney has poorer judgement than any 13 year old graduate of a gun safety course. And about as much character as a someone who makes his living robbing convenience stores.

I, for one, am grateful Cheney had other priorities than to go to Vietnam! He would have been a danger to others in combat with an M16!

I'm a Cardiologist and have run Coumadin Clinics for hundreds of patients in the past--I don't know if Cheney is on Coumadin/Warfarin (not likely unless he's had repetitive atrial fibrillation and I can't remember whether that is the case or not0==BUT ANYWAY, the bottom line is that if he IS on this blood-thinner, he would NOT be drunk from 1 drink and that is simply not true--THEREFORE IF HE WAS DRUNK HE DRANK A GUTLOAD, so don't let him off the hook on some medical misinformation (and certainly taking aspirin or Plavix [other platelet "thinners"] would not get one drunk off one drink.

Any corroboration to this story?

If and when this story ever breaks into the network news cycle, I hope CNN will use the following for their news-hype music theme:

(based on the Aerosmith classic,"Janie's Got A Gun")

Cheney's Got A Gun

ch' dum dum dum, Cheney what have you done
ch' dum dum dum, it's the sound of my gun
ch' dum dum dum, Cheney what have you done
ch' dum dum dum, it's the sound, it's the sound

Cheney got a gun
Cheney got a gun
whole world's come unglued
lookin' like Cheney's screwed

what did Scooter Libby do
what did he put you through
they say when Cheney was indicted
they found him in down in ICU
but man he had it comin'
now that Cheney's got a gun
he ain't never gonna get to sue

Cheney got a gun
Cheney got a gun
dog days just begun
the Bushie's is on the run

tell me now it's untrue
what did Scooter Libby do
he jacked the US Constitution
when he outed Secret Agent Plame
they say the spell that he was under
was just a "direct order"
knew that someone had to take the blame

run away, run away from the blame
run away, run away from the blame
run away, run away
run, run away

what did Scooter Libby do
it's Cheney's last I-O-U
he had to take him down easy
and put a bullet in his brain
he said 'cause nobody believes me
this shooting really grieves me'
he ain't never gonna be the same

Cheney Cheney, what's the problem
tell me it ain't right
was it Libby's testimony that
makes you scream at night

Since Doug is so sure that no evidence against Cheney will ever come to light, that puts his report in the category of gossip, nothing more. It also amounts to an admission that Doug doesn't have any real evidence at all. Yet many of his readers seem entirely willing to accept his gossip as if it were gospel.

This story is either a complete and utter fabrication. or will be one of the biggest scandals in the history of the US Secret Service.

Who are the sources? When were they interviewed?

Because if this disclosure really took place, the Secret Service will investigate it thoroughly and fire and prosecute any SS personnel who divulged this information.

Personally, I think it's crap. VP Cheney is on the same heart medication my dad-in-law is on and even a little bit of alcohol creates big problems very quickly - as in "unable to function".

One beer is believable. Drunk is not.

My sense of the hunting accident which netted Mr. Whittington a face and upper torso full of bird shot is that alcohol probably was involved, but I so far haven't seen anything that indicates there is any official report on this. I'll wait to see whether or not you're right, Doug, in your speculation that these reports will surface....Truth does have a nasty way of popping up when Republicans least expects it.

However, I always love seeing bloggers post things that rile up the good ol' boys on the right who display so much outrage over reports that their leaders are rotting from the inside out. The cries of indignation are sometimes the highlight of my day, and I am especially fond of the demands that we "move on," and stop harping on these lies that are being told about King George and his retinue.

To paraphrase from a Will Durst column posted on AlterNet today, "we promise not to spend one more minute on the lapse of Cheney's moral fabric than the Republicans spent on that of Bill Clinton."

Good story but let's include some names to give it credibility.

As it stands it's just a Cheney smear.

I'm no Cheney fan but I like news stories to be credible.

a

Why aren't the press focusing on Katherine Armstrong's early comments that no liquor ("zippo") was served at lunch, only Dr. Pepper. The fact that Cheney and the lady Ambassador have now admitted a beer and a glass of wine, in conflict with Ms. Armstrong's statement, points out Armstrong was lying. What else did she lie about? That the victim was more "bruised than bloodied" and he was embarrased after being shot. Now we know he was bloodied and not speaking. Yet Cheney boasted of his picking Armstrong as his spokesman since she was a witness and could best represent him. Did Cheney or Rove aprove this "no alcohol" statement to the press? The only reason I can think of that Cheney and the Ambassador now say they had a drink each is because they know there were maybe a dozen plus people at the Ranch and they could not control all of their statements. What if someone gets to interview the house servants or the hunting guides? Who dares cross the Bush White House or the powerful Armstrong family?

Cheney already has a history of alcohol abose--2 DUI's in his youth.

Addiction experts say, "Once an alcoholic, always an alcoholic."

Looks like we have 2 arrested alcoholics running the country, and they're out on a mean drunk.

Please tell me why this isn't reported on mainstream network news? Does someone call the news producer/editor and tell them not to report it?
Please answer me truthfully at my above email address.

Doug, time to go find some one elseto start rumors about,you have run this one to death. I could start some truth about you that probally would hurt you. But I think God will take care of you. NO LIAR shall inter into heaven. Watch your self BOY.
sorry for you 2-25-06

QUOTE: "NO LIAR shall inter into heaven."

Oh, right, the neocons are on the side of the angels.

“The U.S. government has consistently blamed me for being behind every occasion its enemies attack it. I would like to assure the world that I did not plan the recent attacks, which seems to have been planned by people for personal reasons. I have been living in the Islamic emirate of Afghanistan and following its leaders’ rules. The current leader does not allow me to exercise such operations.”
—Usama bin Laden, CNN News, "Bin Laden says he wasn't behind attacks," September 17, 2001

"The RICO (Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations Act) action lawsuit against President Bush and other high level members of his administration is based upon prior knowledge of 9/11; knowingly failing to act, prevent or warn of 9/11; and the ongoing obstruction of justice by covering up the truth of 9/11; all in violation of the laws of the United States."
—Philip Berg, attorney-at-law and former prosecutor in U.S. Attorney General's office, Press Release re Mariani v. Bush et al. 911ForTheTruth.com -- SueTheTerrorists.net

"Towers that fell 'like a controlled demolition'. Planes that vanished then mysteriously reappeared, and crucial evidence that has been lost for ever. In the Pentagon, a top secret team drew up a plan to simultaneously send up two airliners painted and numbered exactly the same, one from a civil airport in America, the other from a secret military airbase nearby. The one from the airport would have military personnel on board who had checked in as ordinary passengers under false names. The one from the airbase would be an empty drone, a remote-controlled unmanned aircraft. Somewhere along their joint flight paths, the passenger-carrying plane would drop below radar height, and disappear, landing back at the airbase and unloading its occupants in secret. Meanwhile, the drone would have taken up the other plane's designated course. High over the island of Cuba, it would be exploded in mid-air after broadcasting an international distress call that it was under attack from enemy fighters. The world would be told that a plane load of blameless American holidaymakers had been deliberately shot down by Fidel Castro's Communists - and that the US had no choice but to declare war and topple his regime. This Top Secret 'agent provocateur' plan - code named Operation NORTHWOODS and revealed in official archives - dates from 1962 when the Cold War was at its height."
—Tony Rennell, London Daily Mail, "9/11 On Trial", August 6, 2005

"Operation NORTHWOODS may be the most corrupt plan ever created by the U.S. government. Operation Northwoods had called for nothing less than the launch of a secret campaign of terrorism within the United States in order to blame Castro and provoke a war with Cuba."
—James Bamford, ABC News, "Friendly Fire - U.S. Military Drafted Plans to Terrorize U.S. Cities to Provoke War With Cuba," May 1, 2001

"In the early 1960s, America's top military leaders reportedly drafted plans to kill innocent people and commit acts of terrorism in U.S. cities to create public support for a war against Cuba. Code named Operation NORTHWOODS, the plans reportedly included the possible assassination of Cuban émigrés, sinking boats of Cuban refugees on the high seas, hijacking planes, blowing up a U.S. ship, and even orchestrating violent terrorism in U.S. cities. The plans were developed as ways to trick the American public and the international community into supporting a war to oust Cuba's then new leader, communist Fidel Castro. America's top military brass even contemplated causing U.S. military casualties, writing: "We could blow up a U.S. ship in Guantanamo Bay and blame Cuba," and, "casualty lists in U.S. newspapers would cause a helpful wave of national indignation." The plans had the written approval of all of the Joint Chiefs of Staff and were presented to President Kennedy's defense secretary, Robert McNamara, in March 1962. But they apparently were rejected by the civilian leadership and have gone undisclosed for nearly 40 years. The Joint Chiefs at the time were headed by Eisenhower appointee Army Gen. Lyman L. Lemnitzer, who, with the signed plans in hand made a pitch to McNamara on March 13, 1962, recommending Operation Northwoods be run by the military. Whether the Joint Chiefs' plans were rejected by McNamara in the meeting is not clear. But three days later, President Kennedy told Lemnitzer directly there was virtually no possibility of ever using overt force to take Cuba, Bamford reports. Within months, Lemnitzer would be denied another term as chairman and transferred to another job. Ironically, the documents came to light, says Bamford, in part because of the 1992 Oliver Stone film JFK, which examined the possibility of a conspiracy behind the assassination of President Kennedy. "The scary thing is none of this stuff comes out until 40 years after," says Bamford."
—David Ruppe, ABC News, "Friendly Fire - U.S. Military Drafted Plans to Terrorize U.S. Cities to Provoke War With Cuba," May 1, 2001

"We could blow up a drone (unmannded) vessel anywhere in the Cuban waters. The presense of Cuban planes or ships merely investigating the intent of the vessel could be fairly compelling evidence that the ship was taken under attack. The US could follow with an air/sea rescue operation covered by US fighters to "evacuate" remaining members of the non-existant crew. Casualty lists in US newspapers would cause a helpful wave of national indignation. We could develop a Communist Cuba terror campaign in the Miami area, in other Flordia cities and even in Washington. The terror campaign could be pointed at Cuban refugees seeking haven in the United States. Use of MIG-type aircraft by US pilots could provide additional provocation. Harassment of civil air, attacks on surface shipping, and destruction of US military drone aircraft by MIG type palnes would be useful. An F-86 properly painted would convince air passengers that they saw a Cuban MIG, especially if the pilot of the transport were to announce that fact. Hijacking attampts against US civil air and surface craft should be encouraged. It is possible to create an incident which would demonstrate convincingly that a Cuban aircraft has attacked and shot down a chartered civilian airliner from the United States. An aircraft at Eglin AFB would be painted and numbered as an exact duplicate for a civil registered aircraft belonging to a CIA proprietary organization in the Miami area. At a designated time the duplicate would be subsituted for the actual civil aircraft and the passengers, all boarded under carefully prepared aliases. The actual registered aircraft would be converted to a drone. Take off times of the drone aircraft and the actual aircraft will be scheduled to allow a rondevous. From the rondevous point the passenger-carrying aircraft will descend to minimum altitude and go directly to an auxiliary airfield at Eglin AFB where arrangements will have been made to evacuate the passengers and return the aircraft to its original status. Meanwhile the drone aircraft will continue to fly the filed flight plan. The drone will be transmitting on the international distress frequency "MAY DAY" message stating it is under attack by Cuban MIG aircraft. The transmission will be interrupted by the destruction of aircraft which will be triggered by radio signal. This will allow IACO radio stations to tell the US what has happened to the aircraft instead of the US trying to "sell" the incident. It is possible to create an incident that will make it appear that Communist Cuban MIGs have destroyed a USAF aircraft over international waters in an unprovoked attack. On one such flight, a pre-briefed pilot would fly Tail-end Charlie. While near the Cuban island this pilot would broadcast that he had been jumped by MIGs and was going down. This pilot would then fly at extremely low altitude and land at a secure base, an Eglin auxiliary. The aircraft would be met by the proper people, quickly stored and given a new tail number. The pilot who performed the mission under an alias would resume his proper identity. The pilot and aircraft would then have disappeared. A submarine or small craft would distribute F-101 parts, parachute, etc. The pilots retuning to Homestead would have a true story as far as they knew. Search ships and aircraft could be dispatched and parts of aircraft found."
—Jewish Zionist General L.L. Lemnitzer, chairman, Joint Chiefs of Staff at Pentagon, Memo to Secretary of War Robert McNamara - Subject: Justification for U.S. Military Intervention in Cuba - Operation NORTHWOODS, March 13, 1962 (declassifed 2000)

"The Constitution is just a God-damned piece of paper. If this were a dictatorship, it'd be a heck of a lot easier, just so long as I'm the dictator."
-Georgie Bush Junior, homosexual resident of White House with homohooker "Jeff Gannon" (aka JohnnyGosch.com), homosexual cheerleader at all-male Yale Skull & Boners, homosexual nudist with Dick Cheney at all-male Satanic Bohemian Grove

Arrest Cheney and Bush for perping the 9/11 Attacks! Is YOUR city next?!

Doug Thompson is a brave man for reporting on this latest confession by the Junior White House.

My aunt's a neurologist. She confirmed to me that Cheney's blood-thinner meds WILL make him drunker faster, depending on dosage of meds and dosage of alcohol per unit of time. As a greedhead and Republican Party groupie, she worships Bushes as gods. And her husband is out hunting pigs this weekend, AND DRINKIN ALCOHOL. And yes, he's a Republican mayor of the richest suburb of Phonix AZ. But even he refused to vote for Bush Jr in 2004. He may be drunk, but he's not insane.

Capitol Hill Blue's report meshes perfectly with Cheney's and Armstrong's confessions, and with Cheney's prior arrest record, with 2 DUI convictions. That's why Bush picked him, since it's so hard to find a presidential running mate with a worst DUI conviction record than Jr (actually nekked Cheney picked himself while holding nekked Juniors weewee at Bohemian Grove).
infowars.com/bg1.html
piratenews.org/video-archive.html

Disgruntled cops routinely leak news to the media, no matter what their rank. Cops beg me to report on the murder of a cop, Tony Williams, shot in the back off-duty. This murder was condoned by our Skull & Bones mayor Victor "Victoria" Ashe (Bush Jr's nude coffinmate), since the killers were selling cocaine for the Bush Crime Family and CIA. All charges were dropped against the cop-killers, even tho they confessed on videotape, were arrested with the murder gun, and had a prior conviction for murder. I published an article on this in the newspaper and online, then all hell broke loose, with over 100 police/govt employees fired, and criminal charges filed by me against the drunken police chief and Skull mayor and their mafia contractors, for theft of my car in retaliation.
piratenews.org/copkillers.html
geocities.com/towcrime

Police Report - Cheney's shoots man in head
thesmokinggun.com/archive/0216061cheney1.html

Court files - Cheney's 2 DUI convictions:
thesmokinggun.com/archive/cheney_doc.html

"I had a beer at lunch. I had a beer at lunch. I had a beer at lunch. I fired, and there's Harry falling. He was laying there on his back, obviously bleeding. You could see where the shot had struck him. He didn't respond. I'm the guy who pulled the trigger and shot my friend."
-Dick Cheney, Fox News
tv.groups.yahoo.com/group/piratenewsrss/message/131
radio.indymedia.org/news/2006/02/8559.php

Cheney's Got A Gun Music Video:
bobrivers.com/audiovault/downloads/downloads.asp

bobrivers.com/audiovault/downloads/cheneyvid.asp

It is amazing how low some people will go to smear folks they don't like. 3/4 of the messages in this thread are just plain disgusting. It starts with completely unsupported anonymous allegations taken as fact, and ends with insane conspiracy theories, profanity, blatant anti-Semitism, and calling the President and VP homosexuals.

Quite a crowd you attract here, Doug. These liberals make even Birchers seem sane and thoughtful.

-dave146 at burtonsys dot com but please no spam

I'd like to offer a few points for clarification.

Shotgun gauges may seem confusing, but they work like this.
The oldest shotgun was found in the wreckage of an alien spacecraft that crashed here millions of years ago. (just kidding. I wish I could start with that!)

But, seriously,
Originally an 8 gauge shotgun could accommodate a round ball that was 1/8th of a pound of lead. A 16 gauge shotgun ball would be exactly one ounce or 1/16th of a pound. Simple enough.

Unlike rifles where the bigger the caliber the bigger the bullet, with shotgun gauges the opposite is true. So, a 12 gauge is a BIG shotgun, and Cheney's 28 gauge Perazzi is a really expensive but really tiny shotgun.

Looking down the barrel of a 28 ga (at .550 inch diameter unchoked, roughly the size of my index fingertip) isn't nearly as intimidating as having a stove pipe 12 ga (.729 inch diameter unchoked-it's looks like you could drop a quarter in it though) pointed anywhere near you.

The 12 ga fires a standard 1-1/8th oz load of birdshot, and the 28 ga load weighs 1/4 oz less at 7/8th oz.
The smaller the gauges the tighter the cone-shaped swarms of shot they fire. This is due to the longer, narrower shot column as it's stacked in the shell. With all gauges the swarms get progressively bigger as they gain distance from the gun. When the pattern has "holes" large enough to miss your target then you reach the point of diminishing returns with birdshot, which for practical purposes is about 45 yards.

I'd bet money that Vice President Cheney fires a tight swarm at 30 yards no bigger than a pieplate, and kills near about everything he shoots at.
Guys with those dreamy Italian FUDD GUNS often do.

Cheney grew up in God's country, especially for bird hunters.

Cheney shot an old man in the face. Of course he was drinking. What's great are the comments of the defenders of the Lie, Cheat and Steal party. How outraged they become when their felonious leaders are caught again and again in nefarious crimes. The Amercian empire is being run into the ground by these Republican's. All of them should be frogged marched in chains before the international court in the Hague for crimes against humanity.

1) To Mr. Thompson: You're a true patriot. Please stay on this story, the people have a right to the truth.

2) To the many people who want to pretend that there's no such thing as an anonymous source, and that somehow this discredits the story: READ A NEWSPAPER. Any newspaper. And please count the number of times "White House ources" is used with no nmae attached. That's how Scooter managed to evade punishment for outing Valerie Plame for so long -- no one published his name, and Judith Miller was apparently prepared to credit his as a "former hill staffer" rather than as a "White House source" to throw the feds further off the scent, until the Novak explosion scuttled her story for the NY Times.

This punitive, vindictive administration smears everyone who says anything -- even the truth -- that it doesn't like. Of course Mr. Thompson's sources remain anonymous under such circumstances. It's the same principle that kept the French resistance underground under the previous Nazi government.

People who take blood thinners don't develop higher blood alcohol contents with less alcohol. The blood is "thin" because it has less ability to clot, not because it's watered down in any sense. If someone donated a pint of blood, one drink would lead to a higher blood alcohol content than before.

Of course, if Cheney had many drinks this isn't important, but the idea that a man his size would be legally drunk after one (reasonably sized) beer is not accurate.

Secret Serive Agents are trained not to speak to anyone about any event to anybody . They would lose their jobs in a moment by talking.

I was there, too. Nobody was drunk. Nobody had
been drinking. Nobody had slurred speech. Nobody
was impaired. You, sir, are a liar.

it seems an easy out to claim a drug/alcohol shooting accident- sure, cheney looks bad for drinking while on medication. sure, cheney also looks bad for drinking while hunting. but that's a lot better than looking bad for intentionally shooting someone.

wake up america.

sure you betcha.

One beer, Cheney told Britt Hume. Seems to be the alcoholic's classic statement -- "I only had one beer."

Sobering thought.

Heh Doug!

Is this accident-prone drunk 'Dick Cheney' the same as the VP whom everybody in Europe thinks is the real President?

Any chance of an alcohol-fuelled accident when he is in the vicinity of the nuclear 'armeggedon' button?? Thought I'd ask for the peace of mind of my friends who are also worried about Evangelical'Apocalypse Now' nutcases who are close to the said button. That one is also a rat-arsed drunk is slightly more disturbing!

Dave(Liverpool UK)

I AM A BODYGUARD AND THIS STORY IS A COMPLETE LIE. ENOUGH SAID
BILL SMITH

I AM A BODYGUARD AND THIS STORY IS A COMPLETE LIE. ENOUGH SAID
BILL SMITH

I AM A BODYGUARD AND THIS STORY IS A COMPLETE LIE. ENOUGH SAID
BILL SMITH

I dont see this as being far from the truth, our president is borderline illiterate, why shouldnt his second be a drunken fool. All I have to say is LOOK WHAT ALL YOU IDIOTS ELECTED TO RUN THIS COUNTRY! Oh, and thanks to GW Bush For Giving Our Ports to terrorists and stuffing his own pockets with arab money!

HELLO! Chaney is originally from Wyoming then from Texas, why wouldn't he have a drinking problem! Evey one acts so surprised, like this is actually news!!

Again, why did he not have to pay the fine for not having a $7.00 tag that required in TX to shoot lawyers?

Again, why did he not have to pay the fine for not having a $7.00 tag that required in TX to shoot lawyers?

Quote: "Again, why did he not have to pay the fine for not having a $7.00 tag that required in TX to shoot lawyers?"

America has over 4/5ths of the world's lawyers, and we can't spare a single one!

Begone with your irresponsible humor!

And, even if we are blessed with an abundance of lawyers, "real, conservative Republicans" are dinosaurs and there's an ice age coming....

We should probably freeze-dry a few. You know, for the kids.

Drinking and guns, it was Texas for crying out loud - what part of that don't you understand ?

The difficulty is that all real Texans know you don't shoot barrister birds with a 28-gauge shotgun loaded with 3/4 ounce of #9 shot. Native born Texans use a 3" 12 gauge loaded with 00 shot. If used correctly them blood suckers hardly ever get up to spread their liberal crap again.

Ok, so what are we going to DO about it, it doesn't seem to matter at all how much we talk about these things, we need to DO something. Seems to me that the damgae GW is doing to the world is far exceeding what's been done by Stalin, Hitler, etc...

About another subject... Republican "culture of coruption" ~ If somebody says "conflict of interests", then some Republican pops up on the news saying "oh no, certainly it's not, this is how we do things" then the issue is dropped.

A non issue, just like:

Ted Kennedy --------- Mary Kopechne

Hillary Clinton ---- Vince Foster
(also...ask her about Alex Rackely)

John & Bob Kennedy ----- Marilyn Monroe

If a Reublican found a cure for cancer, the anti Amrican media would find a fault.

Where is a copy of the written report?? This is poor reporting.

another liberal blog that names nobody that supposedly saw cheney drunk. you make baseless allegations and present them as gospel truth without any evidence to back it and of course no way to verify or dispute your story. i hope the libs who salivate at the feeding trauth of this pig sty site will use reason and realize most lies dont present anything but the bare minumum. you dont name names or provide proof. anyone can make allegations. why didnt you add bigfoot and aliens into the mix. it would make the story more believable to the national enquirer crowd that reads this blog.

Who the hell is "Doug Thompson" and why is his story based entirely upon unnamed (and unlikely) sources? This crap is as bad as anything the Swift Boat wankers put out.

See how lucky the Bush Administration is? The dubious dooby Dubai deal has
swept the Cheney story right off the
front page of every newspaper in the
country.

Hounddawg, you are correct on the 28 gauge shotgun shells. I stand corrected. My mistake was taking a so-called experts word for it. No one is perfect and the lesson to learn from this is not to take anyone's word for anything, not even the so-called experts. One should do their own homework. I didn't.

I appreciate the polite way you approached this. Some folks would have lashed out with venom dripping from their eye teeth. I wish more people could disagree without being disagreeable. Thanks for your patience and good demeanor.

I waited a few days before writing because I wanted to check this out.

I talked to a friend whose brother was heavily into reloading shells. So here's the skinny:

There are two ways to load a 28 gauge shotgun shell.

3/4 light load which puts up to 263 bird shot in each shell.

7/8 heavy load which puts up to 305 bird shot in each shell.

Either way, one shell could indeed put the 167 pellets into Mr. Whittinton's body.

I thank you for bringing this out and I hope I'm a good enough man for admitting the error and not take to much flack for it. I will think long and hard before I take someones word for this without checking it out myself.

Now I plan to contact this competitive shooting expert and see what he has to say about this.

Your an alright guy Hounddawg. Take care.

We in the State Department revoke U.S. security clearances from U.S government employees who are identified of consumming alcohol while armed, and we do so no matter how successful or accomplished that employee may have been, and no matter how much that employee may have benefited the nation. Cheney should be treated no differently.

Disgusting!

Did bush tell the truth about cheney shooting a fellow hunter in the face & body?? bush said--cheney was walking along and hear a "QUAIL" flush to the left--he spone-and fired??? the first safety rule in hunting---you fire your gun at "ONLY" at what you "SEE"??? --to do any thing less you are guilty of negilence--and could be charged with felonish use of a fire arm--along with the people with him that failed to tell a 100% truth to the whole shooting?? a new and complete investigation should be renewed by the F.B.I and inforce by the white house and under "OATH"--it is important to our "freedoms to under stand that our elected people must and will tell the american people the "TRUTH"---the truth only has to be told "ONCE"??? it seem like the bush regime is unwilling to be truthful---Oh well can we expect more from a gang of awol--draft dodging--"CHRONIC LIARS"???

This article reads like something in a gossip magazine. Prove any of this. I'm a democrat, and dislike our administration, but I think this letter is low.

Dave Patton wrote: I thank you for bringing this out and I hope I'm a good enough man for admitting the error and not take to much flack for it.

How very gracious of you, Dave.
It's refreshing to see good manners on the net.

Gee, what a shock! Someone in the Bush administration lying about the truth and manipulating the facts. At least 2000+ guys didn't die as a result.

I can certainly believe that Cheney was drunk when this happened, however, I would like to know who are these "Secret Service" men who were supposed to have stated this? Any names please, Doug??

Doug Thompson,
You really needed to fix that last
sentence...has several usage errors
in it. Damn it, we don't need
reporters on the CHB site sounding
like illiterate persons.

Barbara

Whittington is a lot better off than Ron Brown or Vince Foster.

Cheney HDL Cholesterol 17
Dick Cheney's HDL cholesterol is only 17, a genetic trait. How much medication does the the VP take each day and what are the side affects?
How does that medical interact with booze? This is an important story and must be told. The shooter is only a heartbeat away from the emperor with no clothes.

Thanks for being there. Tom Hartmann was commenting on your site and the truth to be found there, as coincidentally did Ed Schultz (or folks on that blog). I get as much truth from the Americans who participate in the blogs on the various AirAmericaRAdio sites as I do the talk show hosts themselves. In fact, I really wish some of them would quit trying to be funny or do voices and get some liberal knowledgable guests on. Ed and Al do that, as does Rachel Maddow. But hey, they're the best we got right now.
Any chance of you starting a radio station in Alabama, my home state? There's proof for you of why the state of Alabama has so many ignorant people: cultural isolation from any stream of thought that isn't 'good ol' boy'. We liberals have a hard time down there. And Canton, Ma. isn't all that different.